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weeeeell... the German line develops quite the headache after T6 as well, in the form of the Yorck. Nürnberg is very easy to judge: If you like Königsberg, you'll like Nürnberg. Yorck is also easy to judge: if you like her you're weird :hiding: But what comes after that roadblock is pure joy!

While, as Kazomir pointed out, Cleveland is pretty much the peak of the USN cruiser line in terms of tier-for-tier performance. It's not that you couldn't make them work or couldn't have good games in them, but they're just way more one-dimensional than their competitors in my opinion - they have mediocre guns, mediocre range, decent armour except for Pensa that will still be of very limited use against Battleships, and the usefulness of their supposed great strength, namely AA, is also pretty mediocre due to relative lack of carriers.

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weeeeell... the German line develops quite the headache after T6 as well, in the form of the Yorck. Nürnberg is very easy to judge: If you like Königsberg, you'll like Nürnberg. Yorck is also easy to judge: if you like her you're weird :hiding: But what comes after that roadblock is pure joy!

While, as Kazomir pointed out, Cleveland is pretty much the peak of the USN cruiser line in terms of tier-for-tier performance. It's not that you couldn't make them work or couldn't have good games in them, but they're just way more one-dimensional than their competitors in my opinion - they have mediocre guns, mediocre range, decent armour except for Pensa that will still be of very limited use against Battleships, and the usefulness of their supposed great strength, namely AA, is also pretty mediocre due to relative lack of carriers.

 

Hipper, Roon, and Hinderburg are all decent though, at least for cruisers, that is. So the Yorck is an oddity rather than standart in the german line. As for the USN... New Orleans and Baltimore (AA Aside) aren't very good and the Des is mediocre at best.

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weeeeell... the German line develops quite the headache after T6 as well, in the form of the Yorck. Nürnberg is very easy to judge: If you like Königsberg, you'll like Nürnberg. Yorck is also easy to judge: if you like her you're weird :hiding: But what comes after that roadblock is pure joy!

While, as Kazomir pointed out, Cleveland is pretty much the peak of the USN cruiser line in terms of tier-for-tier performance. It's not that you couldn't make them work or couldn't have good games in them, but they're just way more one-dimensional than their competitors in my opinion - they have mediocre guns, mediocre range, decent armour except for Pensa that will still be of very limited use against Battleships, and the usefulness of their supposed great strength, namely AA, is also pretty mediocre due to relative lack of carriers.

 

maybe just be the initial rush of getting a new ship, but im already liking the nurn more than the konigs

 

for one, i could actually penn with the guns ;D

(and they fire noticeably faster and the arc is flatter, more useful overall)

 

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Don't be afraid of the Yorck. She great when using HE only. This is the only difference between her and other Germans. The only bad ship in that tree is Karlsruhe. The Yorck's DPM is great, and Pensacola sucks.

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Don't be afraid of the Yorck. She great when using HE only. This is the only difference between her and other Germans. The only bad ship in that tree is Karlsruhe. The Yorck's DPM is great, and Pensacola sucks.

 

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Pensacola eats Nurnbergs for breakfast.

 

Don't be afraid of the Yorck. She great when using HE only. This is the only difference between her and other Germans. The only bad ship in that tree is Karlsruhe. The Yorck's DPM is great, and Pensacola sucks.

 

York is similar to Pensa in the way she plays out, except Pensa has great AP shells and Yorck HE. As far as Pensacola, it is only her concealment that sucks. ;)

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Hi all,

 

Pensacola eats Nurnbergs for breakfast.

 

York is similar to Pensa in the way she plays out, except Pensa has great AP shells and Yorck HE. As far as Pensacola, it is only her concealment that sucks. ;)

 

I always like to see German cruisers in my Pensacola (and Cleveland)... I load AP and citadel them... :)

 

 

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Im up to Udeloi, Shimakaze, Zao, Fletcher, New Orleans, Nagato and Hipper in the different trees/nations and i would without a doubt say Nurnberg is my second favorite ship in the whole game after the Murmansk. You will be able to carry hard in the Nurnberg after you learn how to play it. I never had the same problems as many with the Pensa as many else did, if you learn Pensa you will have good games in that as well but never close to the Nurnberg.

 

And in you lookin into the future, in german tree you have Yorck which is a pain and a half (i choosed to free XP it without even trying it based on all i read and seen off it) but after that you get Hipper, Roon and hind which are really great ships. 

And in US tree you get really underwhelming New Orleans, average Baltimoore and avarage Des Moines. The Des Moines are famous for its autoloaders that gives a high RAF but if you gonna engage targets at range (which you often want in tier 10 games with Yamatos and such) you get gunarches that travels into another galaxy and back, it will make the Cleveland seem to have a flat trajectory.

 

So go German! 

 

And Leo_Apollo, i always enjoy seeing Pensacolas with their paperarmour citidel when im in my German cruisers because its just free citadeldamage for me. And even my tier 6 Nurnberg outranges the tier 7 Pensacola so i can just do my clownpants MC Hammer dance "...... do.. dodo .... do.... You cant touche this! ....."  all day. 

German cruisers atleast has that special German armour that likes to play tricks on AP and RNGsus. 

 

And if Pensa or any other cruiser or BB wanna get fresh and up in my face i have 4 sets of forward firering torps that wanna say Hello! Dont know how many BBs i rushed in my Nurnberg and torped to death in T5-6 games.

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Nurnberg is very easy to citadel with plunging fire. Pensacola is very easy to citadel.

 

Pensacola has better AA and better guns but Nurnberg had that rate of fire and torpedoes! Pensacola is actually more manouverable.

 

Overall I would go Nurnberg. I've got up to New Orleans in us cruisers and to be honest I rarely play her. Can't see why I would.

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New Orleans is a good ship at least for me owning both Mogami and that. My choice is Admiral Hipper though German cruiser line is pretty good. Best t8 and t9.

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HP, lets not forget about that.

Yorck and Nurenberg have ridiculously low HP pool for their tier. They have great DPM and their APs hurt a lot. Just beware of the low HP you get from the very stock 27200 HP as compared to 37400 of Myoko and 31900 from Pensa.

What it means that your battles would be really fun and maybe sometimes shortlived but fun still as it is a good ship to muck about especially now range and latest nerf on Clevelands.. :)

If you look at Hipper, Roon and Hindenberg, they all are beasts! So go get your Nurenberg. :)

 

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New Orleans is a good ship at least for me owning both Mogami and that. My choice is Admiral Hipper though German cruiser line is pretty good. Best t8 and t9.

 

How do you manage the turret No 3 fuckup on Hipper?

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Nurnberg.

 

USN Cruiser line gets worse and worse after the Cleveland.

 

i wouldnt agree that. The only "bad" usn cruiser is baltimore. Its weak for a tier 9 ship. But the others are ok i think. 

Nürnberg is also a good ship, fun to play but yorck, the ship after nürnberg, is the worse ship in this game. Its just crap.

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Pensacola is pretty nice once fully upgraded and equipped with AA buffs. She is just very different from Cleveland, as she is Tier VII with 203mm guns. Despite all her negative aspects, i.e. concealment, I like her best of all my cruisers so far (except for the Tier I ships, those do not count). Yesterday, I did 160k dmg with her.

New Orleans can be a very decent ship but is very dependant on environment and fleet behavior. She makes a nice allround escort and support vessel.

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i wouldnt agree that. The only "bad" usn cruiser is baltimore. Its weak for a tier 9 ship. But the others are ok i think. 

Nürnberg is also a good ship, fun to play but yorck, the ship after nürnberg, is the worse ship in this game. Its just crap.

 

"Ok"? yes. Good as the cleveland is at its tier? No.

 

Yorck is the worst ship? Also no. It was very, very bad when introduced, but they buffed it.

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"Ok"? yes. Good as the cleveland is at its tier? No.

 

Yorck is the worst ship? Also no. It was very, very bad when introduced, but they buffed it.

 

Well think the pensa. i was able to wreck other tier 7 cas with it. So its stronger than other myoko and yorck. cleveland and pensa are the strongest ships in their tiers. 

yes it got buff but its still weak and it can still be the worst ship in game. I remember one shooting a full hp yorck it with new orleans.

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And in you lookin into the future, in german tree you have Yorck which is a pain and a half (i choosed to free XP it without even trying it based on all i read and seen off it) but after that you get Hipper, Roon and hind which are really great ships. 

And in US tree you get really underwhelming New Orleans, average Baltimoore and avarage Des Moines. The Des Moines are famous for its autoloaders that gives a high RAF but if you gonna engage targets at range (which you often want in tier 10 games with Yamatos and such) you get gunarches that travels into another galaxy and back, it will make the Cleveland seem to have a flat trajectory.

 

do high tier germans have a flatter arc compared to other nations?

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HP, lets not forget about that.

Yorck and Nurenberg have ridiculously low HP pool for their tier. They have great DPM and their APs hurt a lot. Just beware of the low HP you get from the very stock 27200 HP as compared to 37400 of Myoko and 31900 from Pensa.

What it means that your battles would be really fun and maybe sometimes shortlived but fun still as it is a good ship to muck about especially now range and latest nerf on Clevelands.. :)

If you look at Hipper, Roon and Hindenberg, they all are beasts! So go get your Nurenberg. :)

 

 

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How do you manage the turret No 3 fuckup on Hipper?

 

Im grinding the Hipper just now and i also wanna know if they are working on this. Myself i dont really know how to report something to WG staff but that fuckin 3:rd turret is crap. It comes on and off all match, you dont really know when you can count on it.

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do high tier germans have a flatter arc compared to other nations?

Haven't played any t8+ except Hipper, but the arcs on the Hipper are just great. But watch out for the Yorck - it has terrible arcs with AP but pretty good arcs with HE. I like the Yorck, but it's very different from all the other German ships as the AP is unusable at ranges above 8km.

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Haven't played any t8+ except Hipper, but the arcs on the Hipper are just great. But watch out for the Yorck - it has terrible arcs with AP but pretty good arcs with HE. I like the Yorck, but it's very different from all the other German ships as the AP is unusable at ranges above 8km.

 

do all ships have different arcs for different types of ammo?

 

i know arcs differ from ship to ship, but not from ammo to ammo......

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