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Is a premium carrier needed in Wows?

  

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  1. 1. Do you want to have a premium carrier in the game?

    • Yes
      132
    • No
      69
  2. 2. Which tier should it be?

    • T II or III
      7
    • T IV
      8
    • T V
      27
    • T VI
      73
    • T VII
      35
    • T VIII
      58
    • I answered "NO"!
      62
  3. 3. What fleet would you like to see?

    • USN
      30
    • IJN
      27
    • German Navy
      28
    • Royal Navy
      55
    • I answered "NO"!
      61
  4. 4. Should "buying it" be restricted somehow?

    • Yes
      71
    • No
      74
    • I answered "NO"!
      56

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Do you want to have a premium carrier in the game?

 

Should you have answered to this POLL in the german Forum, please dont do it again here.

 

If you have any idieas for a prem CV, or comments about your vote, feel free!

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There should be more ships period. Clearly the KM does not have enough designs for a CV line so I would like to see the Graf Zeppelin as a premium. And it should be restricted to players who have already had at least 150 battles in CVs 

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And it should be restricted to players who have already had at least 150 battles in CVs 

 

That will encourage botting and AFKs.. 

 

The better option is to introduce missions that you have to play CVs in to clear. The rewards are some flags and other nice stuff, as well as a special medal. If you earn that medal, then you're allowed to buy the premium CVs. If you don't want the premium CV, then the rewards should be nice enough.

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That will encourage botting and AFKs.. 

 

The better option is to introduce missions that you have to play CVs in to clear. The rewards are some flags and other nice stuff, as well as a special medal. If you earn that medal, then you're allowed to buy the premium CVs. If you don't want the premium CV, then the rewards should be nice enough.

 

Must admit I did not think about people botting. A mission to unlock the ship to buy is a great idea :great:
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Sorry, in the german forum I allowed to choose two tiers. Changed that.

 

I think, locking all but coop-battles for the prem CV for 15 games could be a way, if it is not above T VI. Most players should learn the most important handling there quiet fast.

 

 

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I like the idea of one. With the hope of keeping the RN carrier line 100% british carrier and aircraft. they could potentially use one of the lend lease carriers and aircraft to break it up with a premium.
 

for the easy option (for wargaming that is) I would recommend a Tier V Ruler class carrier (the Bogue class escort carrier) specifically HMS Avenger the true Hero of convoy PQ18 (contrary to wargamings Project 7 destroyer video) the armed with SeaHurricane fighters and swordfish TBs.. Id class this as the easy option as they only need to render the aircraft... the ship is already in game.

 

alternatively there was a thread in the past regarding the HMS Victorious during her stint in the USN under the moniker USS Robin (http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/42611-uss-robin-premium-ship-suggestion/#topmost). she'd be very powerful (2 fighter wings and 2 TB wings) but very vulnerable due to her small air group compared to other ships at the proposed level of tier 7.

 

but the main issue to me is the tier. if its too high its going to effect the flow of the game at high tiers in the hands of the inexperienced.

 

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Premium CVs?

 

CV's?

 

CV's????

 

Nein,nein,nein!

 

 

Why not? We need more CVs anyways.

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I dont play CV's so it doesnt bother me either way. We have premiums of every other class, so why not carriers. But why restrict who buys a premium ship? as long as there is never a tier 9/10 premium in any class, I dont see a problem. If some fool buys a tier 8 Atago or Tirpitz for example, without the experience of playing higher tiers, they are only going to get the smack down every time they play. Its their money, so who cares. An inexperienced player with a high premium, is still inexperienced and will die just as quickly.

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Premium RN armoured carrier please, that way we have a ship with which to beta test the balance of an armoured carrier's smaller capacity against their other advantages before they throw half a line of them at us.

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No idea how they could be made useful (load them with rockets?), but if WG could think of something good, I think Akitsu Maru could be an interesting tier 4–5 CV with her autogyros. Her recon planes would have to be replaced with actual fighters too, though, so this might stray too far from historical accuracy, but I like unique things, and she certainly wouldn't fit into any standard IJN CV branch anyway. Certainly more of a mission reward than a standard premium CV, in any case; Graf Zeppelin is to me the obvious prime candidate for the latter role (although since Germany would presumably have no other CVs, it's kinda pointless for training since she'd need her own captain to be effective).
 

This poll result is interesting; I've read on a Q&A that EU players didn't want a premium CV according to some (presumably other and official) poll.

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Premium RN armoured carrier please, that way we have a ship with which to beta test the balance of an armoured carrier's smaller capacity against their other advantages before they throw half a line of them at us.

 

So... Independence, which already exists? Or did these have battleship-grade armour? Now I think of this, that project for a giant carrier made of ice would be a hilarious addition to the game.
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So... Independence, which already exists? Or did these have battleship-grade armour? Now I think of this, that project for a giant carrier made of ice would be a hilarious addition to the game.

 

Did Indie have an armored flight  deck?

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Why rule out a ship class. Any new content is good new content.

 

If like to see a couple at least cause training carrier captains in normal prems is just rubbish.

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So... Independence, which already exists? Or did these have battleship-grade armour? Now I think of this, that project for a giant carrier made of ice would be a hilarious addition to the game.

 

The independences weren't armoured, or at least they didn't have armoured hangars or flight decks. Basically, a single HE bomb onto the deck and the ship would need 6 months in drydock and suffer the loss of hundreds of crew due to a massive raging fire in the hangar. The only armour they had was a very thin belt protecting the machinery.

 

Compare that to the armoured carriers which had armoured decks and belts of comparable levels to the toughest cruisers of the time and generally shrugged off anything less than heavy AP impacts, with the larger ones (such as the original armoured Malta design with their 6" flight deck) not being far off comparable battleships; they did have relatively thin belts and hangar sides though, typically slightly thinner than comparable cruisers.

 

The only armoured carriers currently in-game are the Midway, Taihou and Hakuryu, but they are mostly very high tier and as such mostly fight other armoured carriers, while the RN armoured carriers are likely to find their way into the middle tiers. The current armoured carriers in the game also don't really have armoured hangar sides, only armoured flight decks, so they are very vulnerable to enemy fire at short-mid ranges.

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That will encourage botting and AFKs.. 

 

The better option is to introduce missions that you have to play CVs in to clear. The rewards are some flags and other nice stuff, as well as a special medal. If you earn that medal, then you're allowed to buy the premium CVs. If you don't want the premium CV, then the rewards should be nice enough.

 

I voted no, but if I were to ever change my opinion it would be in support of this proposal. 

 

I don't want nubs who don't know what their doing playing a class which is the only hard capped class in the game for a reason. 

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Do we need a premium CV? No.

Would it be a nice addition? Yes.

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Premium carriers are fine, I just hope that historically significant ships like Akagi, Yorktown class etc can also be unlocked via regular play and don't require handing over money and that premium stays limited to ships that would otherwise not fit a tech tree like cancelled projects (ie Graf Zeppelin) or non-lead ships (ie HMS Victorious or USS Saratoga).

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there should be definitely no premium CV. There are still people who play tier8-9-10 CV and manage to lost all of their planes in firt 8-10 mins! Seriously! there was a taiho today and he lost all of his planes in first 8-10 mins. not even to enemy essex. he lost only 13 planes to essex. the rest he lost on attacking iowas, which were sailing together.

There are enough bad CV players, no need for more bad CV players.

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there should be definitely no premium CV. There are still people who play tier8-9-10 CV and manage to lost all of their planes in firt 8-10 mins! Seriously! there was a taiho today and he lost all of his planes in first 8-10 mins. not even to enemy essex. he lost only 13 planes to essex. the rest he lost on attacking iowas, which were sailing together.

There are enough bad CV players, no need for more bad CV players.

 

The same is true for all classes, should we then not have any more high tier ships in general?

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I would love to see a premium CV. But it WILL HAVE to be limited in some way to prevent people who have no idea what they are doing to just buy them. Maybe do so people have to reach a certain tier with CV (tier 6, 7 or 8?). 

 

The tier at wich it will be is also important. I doubt tier 8 will be good, we allready have to many idiots in the Atagos and Tirpitz.

Put them too high, and they will be useless to the team, but at the same time too low and people can maybe do too much against ships with no AA. Ofcourse, this is only a problem if there is no restriction. With proper restriction in place, the people who can buy them should be good enough and know what they are doing, that selling higher tier CV should not be that much of a problem.

 

In any case, if they add premium CV, they have to be carefull how they do it.

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You could have it restricted, like you had the Arp ships. unlock a carrier one tier below. I dont think you should have to do a mission to get something that you need to pay for anyway. Also I dont think Graf Zep will be popular unless they give it tbs

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Akagi, Kaga, Souryu...

Jun'you, Hiyou,  Unryuu... 

There is a lot of material just from IJN. I want Akagi and Kaga, be it à regular 2nd line or premium. (But unbundled). 

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