[GEMIN] OOAndreasOO Players 399 posts 52,865 battles Report post #1 Posted February 22, 2016 Is possible that a Taskent fire to me only 1.7 km far in open sea staying invisible in smoke? Taskent have a surface detection 9.4 If i fire in smoke by 3.5 km with my Kamikaze [6.0 surface detection] ppl see me. Is possible by WG avoid those unmotivate preferences for russian navy? TY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gr0pah Players 1,168 posts 9,822 battles Report post #2 Posted February 22, 2016 Is possible that a Taskent fire to me only 1.7 km far in open sea staying invisible in smoke? Taskent have a surface detection 9.4 If i fire in smoke by 3.5 km with my Kamikaze [6.0 surface detection] ppl see me. Is possible by WG avoid those unmotivate preferences for russian navy? TY If he is 1.7 km away in smoke, he's automatically detected. So your scenario can't happen. If you are 3.5 km away from enemy ship in smoke you are not detected. Except if they are using acoustics, in which case you are automatically detected (see above). Ship detection plays no part when smoked. And, for once, neither does nationality. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #3 Posted February 22, 2016 Correct me if im wrong but russian tanks in WoT are nothing special to write home about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GEMIN] OOAndreasOO Players 399 posts 52,865 battles Report post #4 Posted February 22, 2016 If he is 1.7 km away in smoke, he's automatically detected. So your scenario can't happen. You say it cant happens but it happens too I were hunting him with my Myoko....he set smoke and continue shot me standing and dont moving...I could see where shots come but cant see him. When smoke effect stop he was 1.7 km far. Or his ship is OP...or he's a cheater or hacker. No other explains are possible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byronicasian Players 391 posts Report post #5 Posted February 22, 2016 Smoke doesn't render when you're inside it. FYI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gr0pah Players 1,168 posts 9,822 battles Report post #6 Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) You say it cant happens but it happens too I were hunting him with my Myoko....he set smoke and continue shot me standing and dont moving...I could see where shots come but cant see him. When smoke effect stop he was 1.7 km far. Or his ship is OP...or he's a cheater or hacker. No other explains are possible No. The "proximity spot" happens at 2 km, no OP, hack or cheat. Most likely you didn't notice he had popped until he was 1.7 km away. And just to clarify: there is no hack or cheat possible that can have the effect you are claiming. I'm pretty sure that if you could hack the game, adding 300 meter extra hiding range in smoke is not the highest priority... You would do yourself a great service in this game if you read this: SPOTTING MECHANICS IN WOWS EDIT: I'll quote a part from the spotting guide: So to sum it up - the smoke is visually impenetrable and ships inside it can't be spotted no matter what (the only exception is 2km proximity spot from ships). [...] You can even have ship as big as the Yamato inside the smoke,firing it's main guns, burning and shooting at the planes above him and still staying invisible. The only way to spot such ship is the proximity spot (2km). Note that cruisers can use "hydroacoustic search" consumable that can temporary increase this proximity spot to 3.48km (and something like 5 km for German CAs). Edited February 22, 2016 by gr0pah 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #7 Posted February 22, 2016 Correct me if im wrong but russian tanks in WoT are nothing special to write home about. In general they really are though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #8 Posted February 22, 2016 You say it cant happens but it happens too I were hunting him with my Myoko....he set smoke and continue shot me standing and dont moving...I could see where shots come but cant see him. When smoke effect stop he was 1.7 km far. Or his ship is OP...or he's a cheater or hacker. No other explains are possible Ow yes, there are other scenarios, plausible one's unlike what you're saying. Either, you surely have a replay showing this 'cheater' / 'hacker' doing those 'nasty' things right? Correct me if im wrong but russian tanks in WoT are nothing special to write home about. I do better with my German tanks then my Russian one's, but honestly I'm just doing that to piss off the 'German UP, Russian bias !!!!!!eleven' crowd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] BadGene616 Beta Tester 773 posts 8,197 battles Report post #9 Posted February 22, 2016 Playing on a 4fps potato? Could have traveled those 300m fairly easily if enemy ship was moving as well. More likely, user oblivious. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger_Happy_Dad Beta Tester 6,753 posts 7,907 battles Report post #10 Posted February 22, 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #11 Posted February 22, 2016 Or his ship is OP...or he's a cheater or hacker. No other explains are possible Overwhelming evidence. Case closed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #12 Posted February 22, 2016 Correct me if im wrong but russian tanks in WoT are nothing special to write home about. You are wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #13 Posted February 22, 2016 Correct me if im wrong but russian tanks in WoT are nothing special to write home about. Russian tanks in WoT may not be the best, but their heavy tanks are the most idiotproof vehicles in game, requiring little thought, bit of vodka and full cyka blyat mode to do decently, while mediums with competent tanker are pretty much go to clan wars mediums, due to their versatility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DSPA] cuddlesRO Beta Tester 336 posts Report post #14 Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) Correct me if im wrong but russian tanks in WoT are nothing special to write home about. Except they have the highest average WR on any server than any nation. ( Ignoring Czechoslovakia due to low number of games and launched recently) Edited February 22, 2016 by clocky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #15 Posted February 22, 2016 Except they have the highest average WR on any server than any nation. You talking about Obj268/263, IS7, or just the mediums Russian tanks in WoT may not be the best, but their heavy tanks are the most idiotproof vehicles in game, requiring little thought, bit of vodka and full cyka blyat mode to do decently, while mediums with competent tanker are pretty much go to clan wars mediums, due to their versatility. This ^ And even then I never drank enough vodka when I first unlocked my IS7; I still have better performance in my Maus ( still bad .. ) then that pos wannabe medium heavy hybrid which burns when people look at it wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DSPA] cuddlesRO Beta Tester 336 posts Report post #16 Posted February 22, 2016 You talking about Obj268/263, IS7, or just the mediums Everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GEMIN] OOAndreasOO Players 399 posts 52,865 battles Report post #17 Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) Note that cruisers can use "hydroacoustic search" consumable that can temporary increase this proximity spot to 3.48km (and something like 5 km for German CAs). Yes i can use hydroacustic...but not have in my Myoko because i use enanched AA fire. I usually dont play my Myoko like a DD hunter. And I REPEAT: I was firing at him even if he was invisible because i could see where his shot came from (not only shot but also torpedoes that I easy dodged). Then is IMPOSSIBLE i cant see him became visible because i was seeing at him. I could see his shots and i could NOT see him 1.7 km far....THAT'S FACTS! You only answer me if is possible or not! Edited February 22, 2016 by OOAndreasOO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #18 Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) And even then I never drank enough vodka when I first unlocked my IS7; I still have better performance in my Maus ( still bad .. ) then that pos wannabe medium heavy hybrid which burns when people look at it wrong Just because IS-7 can go downhill 60km/h doesn't mean its heavy/medium hybrid. Its fully fledged heavy assault tank, although when defending in hulldown it can be quality pain in the arse to dig out, even with premium ammo. If you want failed heavy/medium hybrid that burns every time someone farts on the server try 113 chinese tonk. Yes i can use hydroacustic...but not have in my Myoko because i use enanched AA fire. I usually dont play my Myoko like a DD hunter. And I REPEAT: I was firing at him even if he was invisible because i could see where his shot came from (not only shot but also torpedoes that I easy dodged). Then is IMPOSSIBLE i cant see him became visible because i was seeing at him. I could see his shots and i could NOT see him 1.7 km far....THAT'S FACTS! You only answer me if is possible or not! Edited February 22, 2016 by Panocek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #19 Posted February 22, 2016 Everything. proof it. Just because IS-7 can go downhill 60km/h doesn't mean its heavy/medium hybrid. Its fully fledged heavy assault tank, although when defending in hulldown it can be quality pain in the arse to dig out, even with premium ammo. If you want failed heavy/medium hybrid that burns every time someone farts on the server try 113 chinese tonk. Meh 113 has better gun handling I know I played it wrong, it's not a medium/heavy hybrid but I tried to play it like one -> ends with me getting circle strafed by enemy mediums which put me on fire since those fuel tanks are so easy to hit. Hull down IS7 is godlike, best turret in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalybeos Players 40 posts 2,127 battles Report post #20 Posted February 22, 2016 I'll take a guess here, so correct me if I'm wrong, the DD was covered in smoke, so the only way to see him without the sonar consumable or the tier3 upgrade (The target acquisition thingy) you would need to get within 2km range to the it. Since WoWS and WoT have a lot in comon engine wise, its propably safe to say that everything you try to spot, wont be shown instantly on your screen, since the server takes some time to check if something is visible or not, you know, like pinging a target in a certain intervall. So while you got into range (2km) of the DD, the server hasn't checked for visibility yet, in the time it took for checking you came 300m closer to the DD and it popped up at 1,7km then. Nothing more than that I guess. Cheers, Kalybeos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #21 Posted February 22, 2016 I could see his shots and i could NOT see him 1.7 km far....THAT'S FACTS! You only answer me if is possible or not! Well something is wrong with your facts since it is impossible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #22 Posted February 22, 2016 replay or it didn't happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cosseria Players 1,064 posts 4,944 battles Report post #23 Posted February 22, 2016 Wait a minute... He was in smoke and you could see where his shots were coming from? OMG HACK!!1!11!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SKIDZ] chazwozza Players 1,030 posts Report post #24 Posted February 22, 2016 I agree with the OP had it happen to me a while back pretty sure a m8 of mine said the same we both run decent machines so its not that Saying it cant happen because in game mechanics is just bollocks And when war gaming release a in game replay feature where I don't have to fanny about with config files ill gladly try and make one 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #25 Posted February 22, 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
