Start restricting numbers of Destroyers in Games

[bobthebretonnian]

The game at high tier is now getting completely screwed by every man and his dog playing noobShimakaze.  At times it just feels like World of Torpedoes.  WG you need to start thinking of restricting them as they are gimping the playstyle of Cruisers and Battleships.

 

Either nerf the crapout of shimakaze by adjusting its concealment or increase the reload time on their torpedoes

[Arakus]

The game at high tier is now getting completely screwed by every man and his dog playing noobShimakaze.  At times it just feels like World of Torpedoes.  WG you need to start thinking of restricting them as they are gimping the playstyle of Cruisers and Battleships.

 

Either nerf the crapout of shimakaze by adjusting its concealment or increase the reload time on their torpedoes

 

If you think shimakaze is a "noob" ship then you never played it.

Instead of mimimi maybe l2p?

[Gerudan]

They just buffed DDs. Having walls of torpedos shot from invisible DD squadrons at each other is obviously the kind of game, WG wants. 

[Nodorf_]

Even as a destroyer player it aint fun ending up in a game with 5-6 destroyers per team.

[Spellfire40]

And thats a reason to start the same topic over and over and over and over.

There is a search option use existing threats so you dont need to be told that the horible OP Shima isnt near Top in Damage done or WR.

[jonasnee]

well i personally would rather see DDs than B, because DDs actually require skill to play.

[Vulgarny]

 

If you think shimakaze is a "noob" ship then you never played it.

Instead of mimimi maybe l2p?

 

Its noob ship and yes I played it.

[Spithas]

well i personally would rather see DDs than B, because DDs actually require skill to play.

 

DDs are the most easy class to play.

 

Yeah they are hard to master and do really well in. But they are the safest and simplest and easiest to get decent XP with.

 

And of course the max number of DDS per team needs to be Capped. I am sure WG will realize this soon enough.

[deadly_if_swallowed]

There is no "l2p" when your Yamato gets matched against 4 Shimakaze, 3 of them playing as division. Your screen turns red, then you die. End of story.

[Pawndemonium]

Both the T8+ upgrade (*0.9 concealment) and concealment expert only should reduce the main battery debuff accordingly, instead of reducing the overall spotting distance. Those values are low enough for the worst offenders already.

[Durin_VI]

I play DD, CA and BB, love them all, don't favor any over the other (not a Mafia member) but 5-6 DD's of t9 or t10 classes is simply totally ruining the game. Today all fun was totally and utterly wasted by walls of torps from all sides (including friendly ones). 

 

DD's don't need to be nerfed but limited in numbers just like CV's. 

 

And I know there are a zillion topics about this item, one more may help to get the attention

 

[bloodynicknames]

play DD for the most part and agree that number of DDs in T8+ is just silly.

played 3 matches with my gearing yesterday all had at least 8 DDs in them.

limit to 3 per team and thats that.

 

[WingedHussar_Adler]

3dds per side, one bs (watch that bouth side have same nation), and one cv......

[WingedHussar_Adler]

 

Its noob ship and yes I played it.

 

your stats showes you have minekaze as highest IJN dd.....playing in beta or on "friends" account can not give you reall insight in any ship...and when we talk about noob shps....i see you like IJN cv-s .....really really hard ships....it is hard to fly to ship and torp him with 15 torps from 3 km

[bloodynicknames]

 

your stats showes you have minekaze as highest IJN dd.....playing in beta or on "friends" account can not give you reall insight in any ship...and when we talk about noob shps....i see you like IJN cv-s .....really really hard ships....it is hard to fly to ship and torp him with 15 torps from 3 km

 

well, looking at all T10 DDs shimakaze is easiest to plays as it doesnt have to rely on its guns but is the only one thats viable at torping stuff.

 

[WingedHussar_Adler]

 

well, looking at all T10 DDs shimakaze is easiest to plays as it doesnt have to rely on its guns but is the only one thats viable at torping stuff.

 

 

yeah.....but when against team with good coordination torping stuff is not that easy.....sure you will get couple hits to bb...but it can not be gamebraker.....also Gearimg and Kaba can stealthfire torps on anything....do not get me wrong shima is grat ship....put still you will do more dmg in BS or CV if dmg you want.....

[Vulgarny]

 

your stats showes you have minekaze as highest IJN dd.....playing in beta or on "friends" account can not give you reall insight in any ship...and when we talk about noob shps....i see you like IJN cv-s .....really really hard ships....it is hard to fly to ship and torp him with 15 torps from 3 km

 

You mean beta times when ships were turning on dime, there were CV everywhere and before nerf to spotting range of torps? Yes it was way easier back then.

[WingedHussar_Adler]

 

You mean beta times when ships were turning on dime, there were CV everywhere and before nerf to spotting range of torps? Yes it was way easier back then.

 

agree Cv is easymode

 

but still my point was about your comment that you play Shima, but infact your highest IJN dd is 5......aka sealclubber

[Vulgarny]

Aka I need to torp 15 times for 500  free xp ^^. And Shimakaze is the easiest ship to play and get decent result. No stress, no risk just put torps in water and see people dying. If you put every battle between 90 and 120 torps in water, some of them are bound to hit something. By CBT dmg record wasnt in CV but in shima......315k dmg for 23 torps hit. If I wanted to turn my brain off, put beer in one hand and snacks in other while playing WoWS shima was my choice of ship. Most braindead ship in game. BTW looking at your CV stats easy mode is still too hard for you. Maybe you should switch to shimakaze mode?

[WingedHussar_Adler]

Aka I need to torp 15 times for 500  free xp ^^. And Shimakaze is the easiest ship to play and get decent result. No stress, no risk just put torps in water and see people dying. If you put every battle between 90 and 120 torps in water, some of them are bound to hit something. By CBT dmg record wasnt in CV but in shima......315k dmg for 23 torps hit. If I wanted to turn my brain off, put beer in one hand and snacks in other while playing WoWS shima was my choice of ship. Most braindead ship in game. BTW looking at your CV stats easy mode is still too hard for you. Maybe you should switch to shimakaze mode?

 

still you must try it out of beta, game and players evolved much till beta ...many peoples learned how to change direction, change speed, not sailing broadside to spot where ussualy destroyers are.

 

if that was not the case SHima would be THE BEST dmg dealer.....but we know it is not in t10 games......BS and CV  outdmge it by 30-40% in average

 

i agree it is "easyest" ship in world if you spam torps from 15k.....you will get 3-5 lucky hits and did 50-60 k dmg....but your impact in game would be 0.....

 

P.S.

Comments "i have bigger [edited]" than you leave for some other disscusuon

[Vulgarny]

Trolololo..........players in this game devolved not evolved and general skill level dropped under the floor.

[WingedHussar_Adler]

Trolololo..........players in this game devolved not evolved and general skill level dropped under the floor.

 

 

yes it is logic...player after 1 game and after 2000 game has same or worst skill

 

 

 

 

[Vulgarny]

 

 

yes it is logic...player after 1 game and after 2000 game has same or worst skill

 

 

 

 

 

Its not "logic" but simple truth. Ask many early CBT players or even better few alpha players that are still playing what do they think about general skill level of population now and in CBT. We have so many sunday drivers that I literally want to rip my eyes out of sockets when I play randomz.

[WingedHussar_Adler]

 

Its not "logic" but simple truth. Ask many early CBT players or even better few alpha players that are still playing what do they think about general skill level of population now and in CBT. We have so many sunday drivers that I literally want to rip my eyes out of sockets when I play randomz.

As in all massive games hardcore players are minority (Ussualy hardcore player is beta/alpha tester)  and balancing game is not around their skill level. And offc They have couple of k battles in beta + couple of k battles in live and are more experienced players compared to players who played their first game under live wows. 

 

 

 

But If we look radnom (majority) players in randoms skill is higher. More peoples gain their t 10 ships. More players have over 2k battles and They have better skill in general. 

 

Also back to my original post. Od is not "fair" to judge ship last played in beta. And Also if it is so noob friendly ship noobs would have best resaults in them but still bouth bs and cv on t10 outdmg shima. 

 

And it is same amount of "noobs" in Yama and in Shima. And first one rock dmg scalle compared to Shima

[WingedHussar_Adler]

So to summ it up. Average t10 "noob" does greater dmg in Yama (not to mention us cv till this patch) than guys in Shima.

 

If we look on EXP gains than dd have clear advantage. But most players are crying about torps and dmg And not about capping zones