Comrade Stalin sends reinforcements - Soviet cruisers revealed

[Amonhep]

So how many of those are paper ships?

 

Tiers 1,2,3,4,5 and 8 are NOT paper ships.

Not sure about tiers 6,7 and 9, though they can also be unfinished projects or prototype ships instead of just 100% paper ships.

Tier 10 is paper ship ( or unfinished project?).

 

PS. I really hope that these new ships will add more VARIETY into the game (especially for cruisers). The current cruiser selection is kind of...boring. Oh and before calling the "OP" you need to know their basic in-game stats at least and even that is not necessarily enough since it takes usually some time to gather in-game data in order to nerf or buff after release.

[Comrad_StaIin]

 

Tiers 1,2,3,4,5 and 8 are NOT paper ships.

Not sure about tiers 6,7 and 9, though they can also be unfinished projects or prototype ships instead of just 100% paper ships.

Tier 10 is paper ship ( or unfinished project?).

 

PS. I really hope that these new ships will add more VARIETY into the game (especially for cruisers). The current cruiser selection is kind of...boring. Oh and before calling the "OP" you need to know their basic in-game stats at least and even that is not necessarily enough since it takes usually some time to gather in-game data in order to nerf or buff after release.

 

tier 6,7,9,10 are all paper

tier7 project 28,tier9 project 65,tier10:project 66

[Amonhep]

 

tier 6,7,9,10 are all paper

tier7roject 28,tier9roject 65,tier10:project 66

 

T6 might be improved "Kirov" variant that was scrapped during the upgrade pahse.

Tier 9 : Dmitrii Donskoi \ «Дмитрий Донской» (Vladivostok \ «Владивосток») (1953) - Project 68bis-ZIF, non completed. Its based on Project-68bis class of ships (aka Mikhail Kutuzov), might be another unfinished "upgrade".

 

Here is a link nobody has posted yet by the way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_Russia_by_project_number 

[Dampfboot]

So instead of Royal Navy more STRONK Russian ships. *sigh*

 

[Comrad_StaIin]

 

T6 might be improved "Kirov" variant that was scrapped during the upgrade pahse.

Tier 9 : Dmitrii Donskoi \ «Дмитрий Донской» (Vladivostok \ «Владивосток») (1953) - Project 68bis-ZIF, non completed. Its based on Project-68bis class of ships (aka Mikhail Kutuzov), might be another unfinished "upgrade".

 

Here is a link nobody has posted yet by the way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_Russia_by_project_number 

Tier 9 is not project 68bis-ZIF

as one Dev in the NA Forum said it is one of the over 60 Variants of project 65

[Noobsplatter]

That T10...

 

[Lamapalooza]

 

 

It is Щорс, not Шорс, it is named after a Red Army commander killed in 1919... So it is pronounced Schors, not Shors... It is like a "sh" from shooting immediately followed by a "ch" of chariot... When I started learning Russian years ago it took me some time to learn how to pronounce

 

But then again, the "щ" is not really pronounced as shch anymore in modern Russian. They pronounce it as a more stretched out "ш".

[Pawndemonium]

Hm... Chapayev has useless torpedoes (4km), less range (although in the comfortable zone with 17.3km), less AA, worse mobility (radius and rudder)... the same armor (100mm max), and this gets balanced with a plane, which gets exchanged for the radar consumable, and slightly better concealment (hardly noticable at 900m, but better).

She can utilize a powerful consumable, and even though the MK gets smoke as a (premium) gimmick, which is nowhere near as useful, it's still quite obvious how disastrous the MK has been balanced, a premium ship which heavily outclasses the researchable variant. That's even more ridiculous than the Gremy with her stealth firing capability offsets.

 

While that's still unreleased content, the worst part about this is that the Chapajev has totally reasonable stats, along with that consumable choice. Gameplay wise you'll be better off with the MK, unless you love to YOLO into suicide ranges with the radar (which you don't it has to be used defensively).

[MATREKUS]

Hm... Chapayev has useless torpedoes (4km), less range (although in the comfortable zone with 17.3km), less AA, worse mobility (radius and rudder)... the same armor (100mm max), and this gets balanced with a plane, which gets exchanged for the radar consumable, and slightly better concealment (hardly noticable at 900m, but better).

She can utilize a powerful consumable, and even though the MK gets smoke as a (premium) gimmick, which is nowhere near as useful, it's still quite obvious how disastrous the MK has been balanced, a premium ship which heavily outclasses the researchable variant. That's even more ridiculous than the Gremy with her stealth firing capability offsets.

 

While that's still unreleased content, the worst part about this is that the Chapajev has totally reasonable stats, along with that consumable choice. Gameplay wise you'll be better off with the MK, unless you love to YOLO into suicide ranges with the radar (which you don't it has to be used defensively).

+1, thers no reason to use any of the silver RU ships except t9 and t10 stuff, both from DDs and CAs line...but then again they also have problems...

[kfa]

Hm... Chapayev has useless torpedoes (4km), less range (although in the comfortable zone with 17.3km), less AA, worse mobility (radius and rudder)... the same armor (100mm max), and this gets balanced with a plane, which gets exchanged for the radar consumable, and slightly better concealment (hardly noticable at 900m, but better).

She can utilize a powerful consumable, and even though the MK gets smoke as a (premium) gimmick, which is nowhere near as useful, it's still quite obvious how disastrous the MK has been balanced, a premium ship which heavily outclasses the researchable variant. That's even more ridiculous than the Gremy with her stealth firing capability offsets.

 

While that's still unreleased content, the worst part about this is that the Chapajev has totally reasonable stats, along with that consumable choice. Gameplay wise you'll be better off with the MK, unless you love to YOLO into suicide ranges with the radar (which you don't it has to be used defensively).

 

Yeah i dont really get the WG politics in warships. In World of Tanks every single premium vechicle is a bit worse or far worse than the same tier researchable equivalent, but here we have the Murmansk, Gramyaschy and Admiral Hipper (russian bias anyone?) and also the Atago which i think is the best T8 cruiser in the game (Hipper not far behind). I am not complaining, i have the Atago and the Murmansk and i love them but still... i just dont get it...

[VonPletz]

Does anyone find it odd that Wargamming has not release any of the specifications on these Soviet Cruisers unlike when they released the German Cruisers where all the ships technicals were release well in advance of the actual ship release.

If someone know the technicals on each of the Soviet Cruiser or a link to the technicals  could you post on the thread?

 

Thanks!

[shamelesscreature]

http://shipcomrade.com/shiptree/russian (click the pictures of the cruisers)

[Meneleus]

Does anyone find it odd that Wargamming has not release any of the specifications on these Soviet Cruisers unlike when they released the German Cruisers where all the ships technicals were release well in advance of the actual ship release.

 

Everything is subject to change. It might be that they have become more careful viewing some of the problems a few german cruisers had at release. Things like shells landing nearby and spooking the hamsters, causing the hamsterwheel-powered engines to fail.

 

Cheers, M