SchwarzAdler Players 26 posts 14,864 battles Report post #76 Posted February 19, 2016 Actually it is pronounced more like Shtors. Щ is a combo between sh and t sounds. [edited], as you said would be correct if it was Bulgarian. But it is Russian we are talking about. I speak both languages fluently. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] Earl_of_Northesk Players 2,447 posts 14,711 battles Report post #77 Posted February 19, 2016 Quite ironic what they'll do with the Kirov... lol They'd have to make it worse than it probably was... didn't expect that. It will be just as good as it was. But on Tier 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byronicasian Players 391 posts Report post #78 Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) There's like a 3.5rpm difference between practical and trials RoF for the triple mount 180mm. That's a lot of play for dpm balancing. Precedent set w. the Furutaka (single mounts buffed from 2 to 3.5rpm) and Aoba (3 to 5.5 rpm) that RoF is a stat they will fuddle with for balance. I also wonder if the Svetlana will get the Krasnyi Kavkaz configuration as another hull. (15 x 130mm -> 4 x 180mm). Edited February 19, 2016 by byronicasian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44smok Players 4,367 posts 16,858 battles Report post #79 Posted February 19, 2016 Tier 9 is project 68bisZIF. Also Shcherbakov. Very similar to Chapayev, Sverdlov and Kutuzov. 12x152. Five of them have actually been laid down in early 50's with Admiral Kornilov advanced most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #80 Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Tier 9 is project 68bisZIF. Also Shcherbakov. Very similar to Chapayev, Sverdlov and Kutuzov. 12x152. Five of them have actually been laid down in early 50's with Admiral Kornilov advanced most. No, it's not. Look at its second tower :v, it's behind the chimney. The project 68bis ZIF second tower is in front of the chimney. Project 68 bis ZIF (second tower is in front of the chimney) Edited February 19, 2016 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[__] Kais_S012 Beta Tester 742 posts 1,694 battles Report post #81 Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) not impressed in the slightest. but not the least bit surprising either... they have to keep the putinites happy after all (edited due to making a bit of a [edited]of myself XD) Edited February 19, 2016 by AegeanGhost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #82 Posted February 19, 2016 not impressed in the slightest. but not the least bit surprising either... they have to keep the putinites happy after all so much for that claim eh Ectar? (no surpises there...) ummm... reading comprehension fail much? Second sentence is a thing you know... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #83 Posted February 19, 2016 [edited], as you said would be correct if it was Bulgarian. But it is Russian we are talking about. I speak both languages fluently. Still think its sht but eh, you might be right. Will see in WGs vid how they pronounce it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_IRN_] Cor3y Players 202 posts 5,009 battles Report post #84 Posted February 19, 2016 ummm... reading comprehension fail much? Second sentence is a thing you know... well... not everyone will start raging only after understanding at least the things that are before their eyes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerudan Beta Tester 203 posts 3,197 battles Report post #85 Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) So we will see massive buffs to cruisers in the next months. To bad BBs and specially CV player will get fucked even more. I predict a higher fire chance for all HE shells and fires will now go on twice as long or do twice as much damage. Oh...and AA will get buffed of course. Edited February 19, 2016 by Gerudan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gr0pah Players 1,168 posts 9,822 battles Report post #86 Posted February 19, 2016 No moaning here, based on the high tier soviet dd's from T7 onwards & the premium cruisers t3 aurora ( as good as the st louis ) t5 murmansk ( probably the best t5 cruiser imho ) & the Mikail kutzov which got a massive buff in range in last patch there is a bias towards making soviet ships slightly better simply because WG are appealing to their largest market.I can see myself having lots of fun with this tech tree. Add Grem (best DD in game at tier) and Imperator (best BB in game at tier) and yes, it's not like the opinion "Prepare for OP Soviet CA" is a knee-jerk reaction. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HNS] Sonic_157 Players 727 posts 18,120 battles Report post #87 Posted February 19, 2016 Imagining the red alert theme blasting and someone saying 'Kirov reporting' in a rough russian accent. How about this? or this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[__] Kais_S012 Beta Tester 742 posts 1,694 battles Report post #88 Posted February 19, 2016 ummm... reading comprehension fail much? Second sentence is a thing you know... yeah >.< I walked right into that one... sorry lads and laddettes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #89 Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) (look at the mans tortured facial expression ... roflmao) Edited February 19, 2016 by havaduck 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FaceFisted Beta Tester 868 posts 5,081 battles Report post #90 Posted February 19, 2016 Now this is more like it! Best anthem in the world... ever! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #91 Posted February 19, 2016 No, it's not. Look at its second tower :v, it's behind the chimney. The project 68bis ZIF second tower is in front of the chimney. Project 68 bis ZIF (second tower is in front of the chimney) also the superstructure looks different Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogDodgeUK Alpha Tester 2,070 posts 1,152 battles Report post #92 Posted February 19, 2016 moved to Ships / Cruiser section Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #93 Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) I'm going to say something controversial here to all the guys moaning about paper ships and/or the RN tree. The German tree has 3 ships which aren't even "real" paper ships (actual projects not built) but pure WG fantasy. Which BTW is not a complaint, I think they've done a good job of capturing the essence of German ship design of the period in these ships. And what do you expect RN cruisers are going to be? Because historically the "best" cruisers they had in WWII were the County and Town classes, with all the later light cruisers being essentially Town repeats that if anything get "worse" (the last sub-class, Minotaur, having only 9 of the same 6" guns instead of 12). The County is a mediocre treaty cruiser and is at best a Pensacola/Myoko equivalent, so Tier 7. The Town class are essentially Cleveland equivalents in combat power so Tier 6. Which means the RN cruiser tree will also have to fill Tiers 8, 9 and 10 with paper ships, unless you want the post-war Tiger class which would be very awkward to balance (only 4 guns but crazy ROF). Personally I am excited about this. I like the design of Russian ships both built and not and I think WG has done a good job of mixing real and "never were" ships. So quit the complaining, chill out and enjoy the show! Edited February 19, 2016 by VC381 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44smok Players 4,367 posts 16,858 battles Report post #94 Posted February 19, 2016 I'd say the superstructure is very similar - if you can judge by such a poor resolution. Would say fits pretty nicely be it not for that mast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #95 Posted February 19, 2016 I'm going to say something controversial here to all the guys moaning about paper ships and/or the RN tree. The German tree has 3 ships which aren't even "real" paper ships (actual projects not built) but pure WG fantasy. Which BTW is not a complaint, I think they've done a good job of capturing the essence of German ship design of the period in these ships. And what do you expect RN cruisers are going to be? Because historically the "best" cruisers they had in WWII were the County and Town classes, with all the later light cruisers being essentially Town repeats that if anything get "worse" (the last sub-class, Minotaur, having only 9 of the same 6" guns instead of 12). The County is a mediocre treaty cruiser and is at best a Pensacola/Myoko equivalent, so Tier 7. The Town class are essentially Cleveland equivalents in combat power so Tier 6. Which means the RN cruiser tree will also have to fill Tiers 8, 9 and 10 with paper ships, unless you want the post-war Tiger class which would be very awkward to balance (only 4 guns but crazy ROF). Personally I am excited about this. I like the design of Russian ships both built and not and I think WG has done a good job of mixing real and "never were" ships. So quit the complaining, chill out and enjoy the show! the german tree has only 2 of the WG made up ships Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KONI] Getzamatic Players 442 posts 5,866 battles Report post #96 Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) So how many of those are paper ships? Including the Orlan, five... Novik, Bogatyr, Svetlana, Kirov and Capayev are all legit. The rest are paper designs of one stripe or another. I have to admit I'm a little surprised. They could have easily got to tier eight without resorting to paper ships by including the Kaganovichs and the Sverdlovs. Edited February 19, 2016 by Getzamatic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MAASS] th3freakie Beta Tester 420 posts 7,746 battles Report post #97 Posted February 19, 2016 Love it. Gotta get me a Moskva! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #98 Posted February 19, 2016 the german tree has only 2 of the WG made up ships I count Yorck, Roon and Hindenburg, which one of those was a legit Kriegsmarine project? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KONI] Getzamatic Players 442 posts 5,866 battles Report post #99 Posted February 19, 2016 Yorck. It's Entwurf I/1 - a precursor design to the Deutschands. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Takeda92 Weekend Tester 3,802 posts 8,478 battles Report post #100 Posted February 19, 2016 Imagine if the IJN line wasn't implemented and only the USN and German line, then they announced that the tier 5 IJN cruiser would be the Furutaka. I bet some will think it would be OP. I'm still skeptical though, but I'll refrain from judgement until we see the stats. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
