[HELLA] Anthoniusii Players 1,188 posts 24,343 battles Report post #1 Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) Amagi is a Battlecruiser of tier 9. It holds a place of a battleship in Jap tech tree though. I bought this ship to find out that is actually a tier 6 ship in a tier 8 place! Kongo fully upgraded has 21.8 gun range (without the plane's assistance). Fusso has the same! Nagato with the hull upgrade has 22 kms! And Amagi! It has 17,5 km gun range! Even with the latest hull and the aiming upgrade it has ONLY 19.5 kms gun range! Actually Amagi gets killed easily and safely by all tier 5 and upper BBs! Not to mention tier 9 and tier 10 ones! The question is clear! IS THIS A JOKE? WE BUY A 15 MILLION CREDITS SHIP THAT IS WORST THAN KONGO? Edited February 14, 2016 by Anthoniusii Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Mistery Alpha Tester 658 posts 2,515 battles Report post #2 Posted February 14, 2016 not joke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HELLA] Anthoniusii Players 1,188 posts 24,343 battles Report post #3 Posted February 14, 2016 Then a fraud? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #4 Posted February 14, 2016 How about I take my Amagi and you take your Kongo. We will fight and see which ship is worse? You are exaggerating. The only thing that is "better" on Kongo is the range, which normal BB player with half a grain of brain wont fully use. Amagi is simply a great T8 BB. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] MrWastee Players 4,255 posts 33,568 battles Report post #5 Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) u may check the calibre. amagi gets 5x2 40woatcm turrets, don't ask me bout kongo. but it's less for sure. indeed it got the most barrels on that tier at least. not that i'm not with u on the range being a bit too less on that tier, just a guess in terms of "balance". Edited February 14, 2016 by MrWastee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] BadGene616 Beta Tester 773 posts 8,197 battles Report post #6 Posted February 14, 2016 Amagi is amazing, brilliantly accurate and hits like a train. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Lawine_ Players 57 posts 3,535 battles Report post #7 Posted February 14, 2016 amagi is best t8 bb and you called she joke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HELLA] Anthoniusii Players 1,188 posts 24,343 battles Report post #8 Posted February 14, 2016 You miss the point! Please can someone of you write down the guns number, their caliber, the rate of fire and finally the gun range of the rest of tier 8-10 BBs? THAT IS THE POINT Not if Kongo has smaller guns. The point is that Amagi has NO PLACE in tier 8 ships. It gets killed from distances that a tier 8 bb should be able to defend its self! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogDodgeUK Alpha Tester 2,070 posts 1,152 battles Report post #9 Posted February 14, 2016 moved to Battleship section Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betZii Players 593 posts 2,773 battles Report post #10 Posted February 14, 2016 You miss the point! Please can someone of you write down the guns number, their caliber, the rate of fire and finally the gun range of the rest of tier 8-10 BBs? THAT IS THE POINT Not if Kongo has smaller guns. The point is that Amagi has NO PLACE in tier 8 ships. It gets killed from distances that a tier 8 bb should be able to defend its self! Dude.. you shouldn't even play T8 as you don't seem to have "mastered" any ship you touched. If you know how to play the Amagi, you'll just rule the seas if you're toptier. And since you already feel ripped / butthurt / whatever playing the Amagi, you'll have the joy of your life once you reach the Izumo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #11 Posted February 14, 2016 You miss the point! Please can someone of you write down the guns number, their caliber, the rate of fire and finally the gun range of the rest of tier 8-10 BBs? THAT IS THE POINT Not if Kongo has smaller guns. The point is that Amagi has NO PLACE in tier 8 ships. It gets killed from distances that a tier 8 bb should be able to defend its self! If you get hit from those distances then that is your fault and it will be the same in every BB for you. You CANNOT sail in a straight line in a BB and expect people to ignore you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderslap91 Players 110 posts 6,606 battles Report post #12 Posted February 14, 2016 The amagi have 410mm comparing to 356mm of kongo, so Ap damage (12600 vs 10200), better turrent rotation (36sec (with captain skill) vs 45 (with captain skill), same ROF 2.0, 211m dispertion vs 220m (less 2km) but still the best accurasy on any bb (my opinion), better shell speed, better Hp pool, better armor, OK AA vs nop AA, same speed, what more u want? its better in everything and have 1 more turrent so 10 guns vs 8 on kongo, the only think she MAY lack is range but with is speed its not a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-A] cherry2blost [BAD-A] Beta Tester 2,078 posts 22,285 battles Report post #13 Posted February 14, 2016 Dude.. you shouldn't even play T8 as you don't seem to have "mastered" any ship you touched. If you know how to play the Amagi, you'll just rule the seas if you're toptier. And since you already feel ripped / butthurt / whatever playing the Amagi, you'll have the joy of your life once you reach the Izumo OMG the Izumo is so pitiful, it's beyond belief ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BabyAdmiral Beta Tester 473 posts 3,725 battles Report post #14 Posted February 14, 2016 Op, I really don't like to play the "l2p" card, but with this agressive rhetoric of yours, you deserve it. You have 1348 battles (which is quite a lot), but have only managed to make an average damage output of 28k per game, and a kill/death ratio of a meager 0.86. Surely you have the brain to figure out that there is lots of room for improvement in your performance in battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] neeravin [YEET] Players 56 posts 20,298 battles Report post #15 Posted February 14, 2016 Upgrade gun range and it is enough. Learn to play the ship ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DSF] Arakus Beta Tester 1,541 posts 7,511 battles Report post #16 Posted February 14, 2016 Don't feed this "BB Kevin" troll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOTS] deadly_if_swallowed Players 1,678 posts 13,867 battles Report post #17 Posted February 14, 2016 Don't feed this "BB Kevin" troll I feel offended, sir. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Lightbaron Supertest Coordinator, Alpha Tester 1,807 posts 13,100 battles Report post #18 Posted February 14, 2016 You miss the point! Please can someone of you write down the guns number, their caliber, the rate of fire and finally the gun range of the rest of tier 8-10 BBs? THAT IS THE POINT Not if Kongo has smaller guns. The point is that Amagi has NO PLACE in tier 8 ships. It gets killed from distances that a tier 8 bb should be able to defend its self! So for you a BBs worth is decided by it's range? Sorry, but that's garbage! Amagi is a really great ship at her tier because of her hard hitting 41cm guns with decent range and great accuracy. Add her for a BB good maneauverability that makes it able to dodge quite a lot of torps and incomming shells and you have a great ship which Amagi is without a doubt. Furthermore the later in the game you are the less your range does actually matter because you can't use 21km range on ships that don't get spotted before 16km add islands to that and you will spot most ships in the late game only at medium to close range where the maximum gun range doesn't matter at all and the number, damage and penetration of the shells as well as the maneauverability characteristics of your ship are more important than the range of the gun. The range is only one stat out of a much larger number that decides about a ships strength and seeing how most people hit mostly crap in long range engagements it's the one that you don't want to make use off but the one you should try to avoid making use off unless you are exceptionally skilled at ranged shooting and aim leading. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Crysantos WG Staff 3,754 posts 17,659 battles Report post #19 Posted February 14, 2016 How about I take my Amagi and you take your Kongo. We will fight and see which ship is worse? You are exaggerating. The only thing that is "better" on Kongo is the range, which normal BB player with half a grain of brain wont fully use. Amagi is simply a great T8 BB. Actually it's my favourite BB after the Yamato - but hey, we're just derps yolo-ing with our BBs while the decent snipers just know their sh*t 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #20 Posted February 15, 2016 Well from my point of view; (i don't play BB's) when i sink an Amagi with my DD i'm rather pleased, i see it as a good ship and a big threat taken from the enemy, as i say, it's just my view Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #21 Posted February 15, 2016 Actually it's my favourite BB after the Yamato - but hey, we're just derps yolo-ing with our BBs while the decent snipers just know their sh*t A lot of people say the same thing about the Amagi, how they find it a great ship to play with. Although it is understandable and normal that it simply doesn't suit some players, the OP made some really bad points. To OP: Gun range is something you will find only a few battleships lack and it is definitely not the Amagi even though it has less range, the difference from other battleships range is relatively insignificant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] WolfGewehr Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,844 posts 11,496 battles Report post #22 Posted February 15, 2016 After hard work grinding credits I'm actually thinking to rebuy Amagi. Though captain will be problem for a while. I could retrain my Kongo captain to Amagi and get new blood to Kongo... will see what I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOSUB] leDev_LV [NOSUB] Players 5 posts 15,474 battles Report post #23 Posted February 15, 2016 Well... It really depends on how you play... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #24 Posted February 15, 2016 Okay, I'll give you a shout when I unlock and buy the Amagi, then we go to a TR, you take the Kongo, I take the Amagi and then I'll proceed to beat you silly. THEN you can complain about the Amagi being "garbage", "bad" or a "tier 6 BB in a tier 8 place". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Crysantos WG Staff 3,754 posts 17,659 battles Report post #25 Posted February 15, 2016 Okay, I'll give you a shout when I unlock and buy the Amagi, then we go to a TR, you take the Kongo, I take the Amagi and then I'll proceed to beat you silly. THEN you can complain about the Amagi being "garbage", "bad" or a "tier 6 BB in a tier 8 place". I'd offer the same deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
