*sigh* - Izumo...

[Crusherheads]

aint bad ship but hard... though having 2 guns knock over, with the amount of weakness this ship has its just sad.... when will this ship deserves a good buff?

 

Its just sad realy....

 

Note: i even forgot to mention that i even got the 5º line skill "Preventive Maintenance" on the commander due this situation, but its like it does not work at all...

[ollonborre]

That was my biggest issue with the Izumo aswell. The ship itself is not so bad as people make it out to be, but those glass turrets does give a huge disadvantage over the Iowa. I actually had a game were all my turrets where destroyed and most of my secondaries aswell, so you could imagine how much fun that was.

[Comrad_StaIin]

the Iowa has glass turrets too 

[Poster_2015]

They both have similiar toughness on turrets, although Id say Iowa has slightly better ones. However the main problem is the angling vs multiple ships. Izumo turrets are very tough from the front, but very weak on the sides , and very often when angling your hulls vs multiple ships, you forget to angle turrets as well. You need to make a habit of straightening the turrets with hull between shots. Izumo has very good turret rotation (unlike the Yamato mind it), so its possible to make sure your turrets cant be hit from the side between salvos, or at least reduce the risk considerably. Iowa players usually are much more likely to simply stand nose-front and forget about 3rd turret so the turret loss is more rare. That of course applies to all BBs, but is very pronounced at tier 9. 

TLDR - turrets are extremely tough from the front, they are somewhat soft from the side - make sure to turn your turrets so they dont show sides to big threats for too long. 

[ollonborre]

the Iowa has glass turrets too 

 

But not even close to the Izumos level of glass. I actually found the turrets on the Iowa to be fairly sturdy.

[ilhilh]

I found them both a bit ropey but usually it is taking hits from the side that really takes them out.  But, standard doctrine for playing the Izumo is to point your bow at the enemy... so essentially point all turrets directly at the incoming fire... it can't surprise you that you end up losing some occasionally.  I lost 2 turrets on a couple of occasions each with Iowa and Izumo... but it is still very rare.

[Ebu34]

I'm out of +1 ilhilh. From bow it's beast against AP shell except from Yamato

 

If you cought broadside or been flanked, you will be deleted in matter of seconds.

[Spithas]

I found them both a bit ropey but usually it is taking hits from the side that really takes them out.  But, standard doctrine for playing the Izumo is to point your bow at the enemy... so essentially point all turrets directly at the incoming fire... it can't surprise you that you end up losing some occasionally.  I lost 2 turrets on a couple of occasions each with Iowa and Izumo... but it is still very rare.

 

My Experience with Izumo lead me to believe that the best way was to end up with your stern facing the enemy at an angle. That way you could avoid a lot of damage and make use of all your turrets at once.

[Sancho89]

izumo = hate

but yammy is fine

[Ictogan]

A few days ago I destroyed all turrets on an Izumo in my Amagi . I still got rekt though because there were quite a few other hostile ships in the area.

[goldencamper]

The key of izumo is to resist the temptation of go all in and committed because your turrets are all front. 

Though the ship's back armor is crapwhich will get tons of half damages from cruisers, not to say how easy is it set on fire. So there is a trade off to run away. 

Also the ship is quite powerless in a tier 10 room, but tier 9 or below is in fact quite strong.

 

To summarize, the problem with izumo is that your joyful moments fluctuate too much due to various reason.

Therefore, you cant blame people losing confidence after trying it. 

 

 

[akagikancolle]

I like Izumo and has a great history too

http://remorika.com/the-japanese-cruiser-izumo-izumo-battleship/

[Ictogan]

I like Izumo and has a great history too

http://remorika.com/the-japanese-cruiser-izumo-izumo-battleship/

Not sure whether you were just joking, but that link is to an earlier cruiser called Izumo. The bb we have in game is just a paper design.

[ollonborre]

I recently rebought my Izumo, and I have to say: My oppinion has changed. Without all the upgrades and equipment, it is painful. But fully kitted out and with a good captain I actually enjoy it far more than the Iowa. The secondaries are just the same as the Yamato but one tier lower, so get into a tier 7 game and they will wreck stuff quite easily. The guns are accurate, and with the gun battery mod 3 it can put out a suprising amount of DPM thanks to the accuracy and velocity.

 

I don't know I just find a fun ship, and while I partly agree that the Iowa is stronger, I just have more fun in the Izumo now that it has started to "click" for me.

[ilhilh]

I recently rebought my Izumo, and I have to say: My oppinion has changed. Without all the upgrades and equipment, it is painful. But fully kitted out and with a good captain I actually enjoy it far more than the Iowa. The secondaries are just the same as the Yamato but one tier lower, so get into a tier 7 game and they will wreck stuff quite easily. The guns are accurate, and with the gun battery mod 3 it can put out a suprising amount of DPM thanks to the accuracy and velocity.

 

I don't know I just find a fun ship, and while I partly agree that the Iowa is stronger, I just have more fun in the Izumo now that it has started to "click" for me.

 

I wanted to keep a tier 9 ship and only had a choice of BBs - sold the Iowa... kept the Izumo.  My performance in the Izumo was far better than the Iowa.

[Kurbain]

I've recently unlocked the Izumo myself and after 16 battles I have only lost a single turret once despite being hit a lot because its a huge target, so I can't agree with the notion that it has glass turrets.
May have to do with the fact that I don't use the combat style often where you show the front and only use 2 turrets.

 

I recently rebought my Izumo, and I have to say: My oppinion has changed. Without all the upgrades and equipment, it is painful. But fully kitted out and with a good captain I actually enjoy it far more than the Iowa. The secondaries are just the same as the Yamato but one tier lower

 

Unfortunately most of the secondaries tend to be destroyed already by the time you get close enough to use them. 
Unlike the secondaries of the lower tier IJN BBs, the Izumo and Yamato got all their secondaries out in the open.

[ollonborre]

Unfortunately most of the secondaries tend to be destroyed already by the time you get close enough to use them. 

Unlike the secondaries of the lower tier IJN BBs, the Izumo and Yamato got all their secondaries out in the open.

I play with AFT and secondary battery mod for that juicy 10.1 km range, and as long as you can take the brunt of HE fire in the front or on the top parts of the superstructure they tend to survive longer for you to get into any form of brawling range. But yes they tend to be destroyed just as easily as your AA guns. If they wont rebalance secondaries any time soon the least they could do in the meantime is to buff their survivability just a bit

[Lance_Horne]

When I first got the Izumo I could not do anything with it, she was awful, but since I have got it fully upgraded its a different ship, the guns suddenly started to hit and do damage, in stock mode I was lucky to hit anything and when I did the damage was minimal even at point blank range!

The secret like with any BB is not to get caught broadside, I always try to attack head on, the ship can then take a massive amount of hits.

I have not had to many games in her, but I am now starting to enjoy them more since I have fully upgraded her.

[Lemasive]

There is no point playing this ship stock, just run up and die and pray that your secondaries do some damage before DDs rape you. Most useless ship in  history.

[anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC]

Call me a masochist, or just plain stupid, but I really want to play this.

[Unintentional_submarine]

Izumo's turrets are fragile, not because they are particularly weak, but because unlike Iowa's turrets, they are raised up a great deal. Even the front turret sits relatively high on a barbette, and the superfiring turret... yeah that thing has a massive barbette. That means there is a huge area to be hit that doesn't have the actual turret face armour. The result is that even in a bow-on scenario the Izumo's turrets are at a relative risk. And if just slightly flanked and engaging something else, turret destruction galore.

[Gojuadorai]

after a few games ina fully upgraded izumo i must say that thing isnt so bad.

 

its not a lifechanging amazing experiance but not a total horror either.

[Drunken_Jedi]

I'm just starting up the Jap BB line and am actually looking forward to getting this ship. I think it's a closest I'm going to get to playing a ship similar to HMS Nelson and Renown for a long time lol.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

I'm just starting up the Jap BB line and am actually looking forward to getting this ship. I think it's a closest I'm going to get to playing a ship similar to HMS Nelson and Renown for a long time lol.

 

You mean the Nelson and the Rodney? 

 

I'm up to the Izumo myself, DON'T sail it without Hull B and maybe even Hull C as it simply won't turn otherwise!

 

It really isn't that bad, plays similar to the NC/Iowa and the Yam too.

 

Biggest issue is the secondaries don't fire forwards, which is the direction you are facing the enemy a lot of time. What is the point of that 155mm battery on its backside?!?! 

[Xerkics]

Looks like Izumo getting buffed in next patch you get top shells from stock.  From the gameplay patch thread.

 

"Upgraded battleship Izumo. Shells from her top guns are now available with the stock hull

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To ease the progress to the top configuration of Tier IX battleship Izumo, all her hull configurations were supplied with top shells (previous shells were not efficient enough)."

Edited for ROF.