Reporting player names in WoWs - it's a farce!

[luckypat]

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[Greyshark]

So if someone's name is Lavrentij Pavlovivch he can't put his name as nick in WoWs, because you associate it with some historical person? You know, there is a player with nick "jozef". Should I reprot him because his nick the same as Stalin's name? Should we report every player with nick "Felix" because it's Dzierzynski's name? Come on, don't be paranoic.

[luckypat]

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[kantkantian]

This thread won't last long, most probably. In any case ai support you OP, there are things that shouldn't be allowed such as infamous names that are chosen just to offend other nationalities.

 

+ 1 OP.

[Greyshark]

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But this is where you are wrong - Pavlovivch isn't last name. It's called oтчество, mans father's name. So let's say if my father's name is Pavel Smith and he decided to name me Lavrentij,  my full name would have been Lavrentij Pavlovich (after my father's first name) Smith. And I bet there are many Laverntijs who have fathers with name Pavel. Therefore its absolutely legit to put their name as nick.

[Blue_Bug]

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In this case I would have send a PM to MRConway. He is the  WG employee who often solves these kind maters.  He seems to be a decent guy who is able to give an objective opinion and gets things done.

[TheSpearman]

 

But this is where you are wrong - Pavlovivch isn't last name. It's called oтчество, mans father's name. So let's say if my father's name is Pavel Smith and he decided to name me Lavrentij,  my full name would have been Lavrentij Pavlovich (after my father's first name) Smith. And I bet there are many Laverntijs who have fathers with name Pavel. Therefore its absolutely legit to put their name as nick.

 

The English term is patronym.

[Fonfalks]

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[N00b32]

 Berija is not a criminal and has never been, because there is no court case national or international that has decided that he is criminal,

 

That is so hilarious in the context of the era of this game and Nazis, who made their own laws and therefor didn't break many laws. It's 9/10. 

[NextToYou]

Serious question to OP: How do you manage in your daily life if you get offended so much about some nickname in a pixel pewpew computer game, that you spend hours trying to get that pixel name changed? Like you must get into fist fights and such in real life regularly with that uptight attitude, right? Im just wondering that your real life must be very complicated with that kind of attitude.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Fonfalks]

 

That is so hilarious in the context of the era of this game and Nazis, who made their own laws and therefor didn't break many laws. It's 9/10. 

 

Thing about nazis is that they were prosecuted by Nurnberg trial and found guilty. I personaly think trial was [edited], but its a historical fact. Nazis were found guilty by international law. Berija was not. If you can call man a criminal without a decision of court well go ahead....

[N00b32]

 

Thing about nazis is that they were prosecuted by Nurnberg trial and found guilty. I personaly think trial was [edited], but its a historical fact. 

 

So your argument is, because there were no allied war criminal trials, there were no war criminals. You are moving closer to 10/10. 

 

[Fonfalks]

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[luckypat]

Serious question to OP: How do you manage in your daily life if you get offended so much about some nickname in a pixel pewpew computer game, that you spend hours trying to get that pixel name changed? Like you must get into fist fights and such in real life regularly with that uptight attitude, right? Im just wondering that your real life must be very complicated with that kind of attitude.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Serious answer: I spend my day with a full time job but take my time to name things. I stand for others by naming offenders and I fight for justice and respect. And especially I make no difference between nations, religions or races. As I wrote I'm very familiar with history and if more people would have acted like me there would have been less people killed for sure. Even if it's just one less dead or one person even thinking about it it's worth everything.

[Fonfalks]

 

Serious answer: I spend my day with a full time job but take my time to name things. I stand for others by naming offenders and I fight for justice and respect. And especially I make no difference between nations, religions or races. As I wrote I'm very familiar with history and if more people would have acted like me there would have been less people killed for sure. Even if it's just one less dead or one person even thinking about it it's worth everything.

 

You know NOTHING about history, you are just a liberal, self-conscious troll whos life goal is to boss others around by screaming that you are offended.

 

[luckypat]

 

Thing about nazis is that they were prosecuted by Nurnberg trial and found guilty. I personaly think trial was [edited], but its a historical fact. Nazis were found guilty by international law. Berija was not. If you can call man a criminal without a decision of court well go ahead....

 

The reason why Beriia was not "found guilty" is because historicians didn't have any facts about him, Stalin and thier crimes before the fall of the Sovjet Union. And in the 90's there were no Allies anymore to prosecute them post mortem. Noone wanted do dig this out anymore. Even from 500'000  Nazis only 50'000 were ever accused.

 

And btw: When naming evil I'm used to get answers from many people like you whose arguments are "you idiot" and lots of ???? and !!!!

[luckypat]

 

You know NOTHING about history, you are just a liberal, self-conscious troll whos life goal is to boss others around by screaming that you are offended.

 

 

Still no facts from your side. YOU (I have a CapLock key too) just try to troll me. I have facts. For example this book which I read http://amzn.com/B0006CHAEQ

 

In short for you (as I think you don't read a whole book) one reviewer says: This book outlines and details some very scary history. Most Americans are aware of the Holocaust and its nightmarish evil but few are aware of the evil of the Soviet Gulag. Where the Nazis primarily selected victims based on racial or religious attributes the Soviets cast a far wider net and used the victims as tools to improve the Soviet economy. Decisions were made that gave more food to the victims so they could work twice as long before dying. Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria is the personification of evil and this book was so startling I have difficulty sleeping after discussing it. Promotion through assassination was standard practice in the Soviet Union. Rounding up people for arrest based on the manpower needs of the slave labor camps was standard operating procedures for Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria and his superiors. My review does not do the evil of Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria justice and I recommend this book only to those with a strong stomach.

[Fonfalks]

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[Jammin411]

So if someone's name is Lavrentij Pavlovivch he can't put his name as nick in WoWs, because you associate it with some historical person? You know, there is a player with nick "jozef". Should I reprot him because his nick the same as Stalin's name? Should we report every player with nick "Felix" because it's Dzierzynski's name? Come on, don't be paranoic.

 

Yeah, I think I agree here.  Yes, the history of that person is grim, but that is not directly linked to this player.  Yes, it could be I guess, but names can't be blocked just because they are the same/similar to historical figures who committed bad deeds.  I see both sides here, but that's a fine line.

[zFireWyvern]

Yeah, I think I agree here.  Yes, the history of that person is grim, but that is not directly linked to this player.  Yes, it could be I guess, but names can't be blocked just because they are the same/similar to historical figures who committed bad deeds.  I see both sides here, but that's a fine line.

 

Well yes they can, pointing out that their history is grim immediately ties the name with rule 3.14;

3.14 …that are connected with negative historical or political personalities, first of all those who are judged by international courts for crimes against humanity, those that generally arouse feelings of suffering or disgust in the majority of people, as well as members of currently existing terrorist organizations.

[Hauptbahnhof]

You know, there is a player with nick "jozef". Should I reprot him because his nick the same as Stalin's name? Should we report every player with nick "Felix" because it's Dzierzynski's name? Come on, don't be paranoic.

 

Yeah. It's the same as if they would forbid the nick name of Adolf just because Hitler happened to be named that too!

[Fonfalks]

 

Still no facts from your side. YOU (I have a CapLock key too) just try to troll me. I have facts. For example this book which I read http://amzn.com/B0006CHAEQ

 

In short for you (as I think you don't read a whole book) one reviewer says: This book outlines and details some very scary history. Most Americans are aware of the Holocaust and its nightmarish evil but few are aware of the evil of the Soviet Gulag. Where the Nazis primarily selected victims based on racial or religious attributes the Soviets cast a far wider net and used the victims as tools to improve the Soviet economy. Decisions were made that gave more food to the victims so they could work twice as long before dying. Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria is the personification of evil and this book was so startling I have difficulty sleeping after discussing it. Promotion through assassination was standard practice in the Soviet Union. Rounding up people for arrest based on the manpower needs of the slave labor camps was standard operating procedures for Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria and his superiors. My review does not do the evil of Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria justice and I recommend this book only to those with a strong stomach.

 

This is how i know you know NOTHING about history - you have read 1 biased book on Berija and now you are internet justice fighter hero. Complete and utter idiot and here is why. You should learn these things and read about 10 - 15 books from different views about these topis

1)What is USSR, how it came to be and what happened during civil war

2)Who was Dzerzinsky

3)Who was Yagoda

4)Who was Yezov

5)Why Stalin replaced Yezov with Berija

6)What has Berija done while he was in power.

   From first topic you will know that russian civil war was one of the most bloody civil wars in worlds history and you should view all the rest of history of 20s,30s and 40s with that in mind. War changes people and especially civil war. Men get used to force and violence and then there is no end to terror unless there comes someone who can control it, but it can only be controlled with iron fist. 

Next thing is you should look at what happened in WW2 what role did berija and hes KGB and NKVD played in winning ww2, a hint it was huge. Then you should look at impact of Berija and KGB on economy of USSR where he stopped all the looting and stealing that was a norm for most people. Were there many who died for nothing sure, but to control people who had gotten used to violence is impossible without force. Also look at what Berija achieved for USSR including nuclear bomb project, space project and look at what he did in Georgia where he was in charge for a while. 

Judging complex historical personalities from 1 biased book is a work of idiot. 

[luckypat]

 

Yeah. It's the same as if they would forbid the nick name of Adolf just because Hitler happened to be named that too!

 

I bet 10k Dubloons: If my name is "Adolf Huber" and I would name myself for example "AdolfH" (what could be legit in this case) I would get a nameban within days or hours.

[Hauptbahnhof]

 

I bet 10k Dubloons: If my name is "Adolf Huber" and I would name myself for example "AdolfH" (what could be legit in this case) I would get a nameban within days or hours.

 

So please transfer 10k Dubloons then. These two account seem to have existed for around a year with no ban:

 

http://worldofwarships.eu/en/community/accounts/527130266-Adolf/

http://worldofwarships.eu/en/community/accounts/528132753-AdolfHItIerDeHacks/

[Mister_Greek]

By that account we should also ban anyone with the name "Ioseb Besarionis" ignoring if it is his REAL name or not....

 

Seriously OP,you have to get a thicker skin that that. I understand that some names might be offending but since he hasnt put the word "Beriia" in it, you do not know if he is reffering to him or not.

 

If my name is "Herman" should i be banned because of this name historical acts?

 

You are following a flawed logic of censoring,im sorry to say that to you....