[SHAFT] viceadmiral123 Players 1,221 posts 29,485 battles Report post #1 Posted February 7, 2016 Upcoming update - give t10 CVs the planes of t9, -1 TB squad to Midway, buff AA. But will it be enough? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ALONE] Smeggo Modder 2,485 posts 15,344 battles Report post #2 Posted February 7, 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KptStrzyga Beta Tester 4,868 posts 5,014 battles Report post #3 Posted February 7, 2016 Replay plox? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ORKAN] ___HADES____ [ORKAN] Beta Tester 495 posts 16,664 battles Report post #4 Posted February 7, 2016 replay please in ubc85@wp.pl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gm3ntor Players 294 posts Report post #5 Posted February 7, 2016 damn man, i hope u have the replay..! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gr0pah Players 1,168 posts 9,822 battles Report post #6 Posted February 7, 2016 700+ games in the Midway, and rocking it. Impressive. I already mourn I will forever be excluded from the Midway-good-times. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TakeMeRiver ∞ Beta Tester 83 posts 5,484 battles Report post #7 Posted February 7, 2016 considering i'm a scrub in mine yep it will be enough for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mucker Players 842 posts 8,403 battles Report post #8 Posted February 7, 2016 Holy crepp. I feel so small in my Langley. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #9 Posted February 7, 2016 Unfair plane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAFT] viceadmiral123 Players 1,221 posts 29,485 battles Report post #10 Posted February 15, 2016 Another day, another daily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,556 posts 1,924 battles Report post #11 Posted February 15, 2016 Carriers will probably allways be a problem to balance. There will probably allways be those CV players that will make it completely OP, and with the limited stats/parameters they can change in this game to balance stuff, it will be very difficult. In any case, I hope they succeed at one point, as I love carriers and not intersted in BB from a historical perspective. But CV just aren't so fun in this game. Really hope they find that sweet spot to not have them be UP but also not OP. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #12 Posted February 15, 2016 Carriers will probably allways be a problem to balance. There will probably allways be those CV players that will make it completely OP, and with the limited stats/parameters they can change in this game to balance stuff, it will be very difficult. In any case, I hope they succeed at one point, as I love carriers and not intersted in BB from a historical perspective. But CV just aren't so fun in this game. Really hope they find that sweet spot to not have them be UP but also not OP. I think the problem is that carriers are by definition either OP or UP, there isn't a balanced middle ground. Other ships can't fight carriers directly, all they can do is make use of automated AA that either makes the carrier attacks ineffective or if it doesn't, means that carriers can inflict devastating damage at no risk to themselves. Yes ideally what would happen is CA would escort BB, but we all know how well that happens against DD so in reality it isn't going to happen in a game like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAR] Simpson2142 Beta Tester 69 posts Report post #13 Posted February 15, 2016 The problem with balancing carriers is the massive gap between skilled and unskilled CV captains. An unskilled CV captain is little to no threat, but a skilled captain who is carefully coordinating multiple torpedo strikes with manual dive bombing afterwards can cause havoc. This of course is amplified on the skill level of the target, if they're sailing alone and not paying too much attention, it's almost certain they will be sunk by a single strike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #14 Posted February 15, 2016 The problem with balancing carriers is the massive gap between skilled and unskilled CV captains. An unskilled CV captain is little to no threat, but a skilled captain who is carefully coordinating multiple torpedo strikes with manual dive bombing afterwards can cause havoc. This of course is amplified on the skill level of the target, if they're sailing alone and not paying too much attention, it's almost certain they will be sunk by a single strike. To be honest I'm not overly convinced skill's much of an issue, tier 4 players with a handful of games seem to be perfectly capable of executing simultaneous right angle attacks against an already turning target, if you spot them well in advance and begin your turn early then sure you can keep it down to 3 or 4 hits, but to a large extent you're then removed from the game without even firing your guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,556 posts 1,924 battles Report post #15 Posted February 15, 2016 I think the problem is that carriers are by definition either OP or UP, there isn't a balanced middle ground. Other ships can't fight carriers directly, all they can do is make use of automated AA that either makes the carrier attacks ineffective or if it doesn't, means that carriers can inflict devastating damage at no risk to themselves. Yes ideally what would happen is CA would escort BB, but we all know how well that happens against DD so in reality it isn't going to happen in a game like this. You are right. The problem is the few way they can change it do to how they decided to make the gameplay in the beginning. It is the same with IJN vs USN CV. They just can't balance them properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Kenjiro_ [THESO] Players 991 posts 12,433 battles Report post #16 Posted February 15, 2016 Upcoming update - give t10 CVs the planes of t9, -1 TB squad to Midway, buff AA. But will it be enough? Stop posting these please. They are nerfing CVs underground to balance players like you and we, the average joes, suck even more in them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FaceFisted Beta Tester 868 posts 5,081 battles Report post #17 Posted February 16, 2016 This is T10 CV in T8 match. That ship is OP in every way even in it's own tier, not to mention T8 where no one can stand up to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurbain Players 1,976 posts 2,773 battles Report post #18 Posted February 16, 2016 Upcoming update - give t10 CVs the planes of t9, -1 TB squad to Midway, buff AA. But will it be enough? Showing off a 380K damage match in a Midway doesn't exactly help to prevent CV nerfs. This is T10 CV in T8 match. That ship is OP in every way even in it's own tier, not to mention T8 where no one can stand up to it. Has there ever been a T10 match without T8s? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gr0pah Players 1,168 posts 9,822 battles Report post #19 Posted February 16, 2016 Showing off a 380K damage match in a Midway doesn't exactly help to prevent CV nerfs. Has there ever been a T10 match without T8s? I think the point is that the primary AA contributors are all T8, and there is no ship present even remotely capable of standing up to T10 planes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurbain Players 1,976 posts 2,773 battles Report post #20 Posted February 16, 2016 I think the point is that the primary AA contributors are all T8, and there is no ship present even remotely capable of standing up to T10 planes. Yeah, the only worthy contender in this case was the enemy Midway.Thankfully the last two times I met T10 CVs in my Amagi we had several Kutuzovs in the team. Since I kept close to them I didn't have to worry about the enemy CVs at all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAFT] viceadmiral123 Players 1,221 posts 29,485 battles Report post #21 Posted February 17, 2016 The usual daily game. Pics for your enjoyment. This time it was just a 10v10, which ended way before 20m mark, so no big damage to be seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWladCZ Players 200 posts 9,103 battles Report post #22 Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Wish WG wouldn't go through with the Midway nerf I wanted to play that CV so bad! I'm not gonna bother grinding USN CVs or CVs in general because they will be dead after the new patch. Wargaming overnerfed them enough but still they want to make sure they will be unplayable. Whole class made useless just because some players don't know how to play the game and whine rivers sad times indeed. I wanted to get into the CV gameplay and got to Independence which I enjoyed but not going to continue. Edited February 17, 2016 by WWladCZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAFT] viceadmiral123 Players 1,221 posts 29,485 battles Report post #23 Posted February 27, 2016 Post-nerf CV games anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PWN3D] Peffers Beta Tester 1,063 posts 22,995 battles Report post #24 Posted February 27, 2016 Yeah, the only worthy contender in this case was the enemy Midway.Thankfully the last two times I met T10 CVs in my Amagi we had several Kutuzovs in the team. Since I kept close to them I didn't have to worry about the enemy CVs at all. you wait for the Soviet carriers with their naval version of the Il-2..............................................The fact it would be too heavy etc. meh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TakeMeRiver ∞ Beta Tester 83 posts 5,484 battles Report post #25 Posted February 27, 2016 Post-nerf CV games anyone? Try to get that in a Midway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
