[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,881 battles Report post #1 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) [edited] Edited February 2, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation. RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] von_chom Alpha Tester 3,465 posts 11,649 battles Report post #2 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) The word [edited] was widely accepted in the late-1900s to refer to people with mental disabilities; however it is now more commonly used as an insult the thing is, are you a doctor to make such a diagnosis ? Edited February 2, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation. RogDodgeUK 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #3 Posted February 2, 2016 Grow up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jammin411 Players 197 posts 555 battles Report post #4 Posted February 2, 2016 In fairness, banning an account is not really effective for bots and such because they'll just create a new account and be right back in action. Same with TK'ers. On the other hand, blocking chat for those who choose to abuse other players is effective. The player will continue to play the same account, but cannot be offensive. I understand the logic here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #5 Posted February 2, 2016 I was insulting people in chat, they didnt like it and reported me. Now I am banned, this is unfair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ammattimies Beta Tester 450 posts 5,507 battles Report post #6 Posted February 2, 2016 At least the chat banned person can communicate somehow (or keep spamming) with those F-key quick voice commands, which usually is enough communication to deal with randoms... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PedeNuts Players 103 posts 1,279 battles Report post #7 Posted February 2, 2016 Seems to me the chat ban works as intended. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,881 battles Report post #8 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) I was insulting people in chat, they didnt like it and reported me. Now I am banned, this is unfair. It isnt the point. THe problem is there are no punishments for other report types. Does somebody get banned if people report him as a bot or for his poor play? No! this is the problem here. If there is a banning system, punishment system for reports, it should be for all kinds of reports. But i wasnt expecting you to understand the point. Edited February 2, 2016 by ghostbuster_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,881 battles Report post #9 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) [edited] People are you not capable of understanding the point here or are you just pretending so? If you get banned becuase of misbehavior in chat, there should also be a punishment for being reported about poor play or being a bot. Is it clear now? Edited February 2, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation. RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #10 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Well the chat one is pretty simple: You get reported a bunch, they look at the chat logs and see you're calling everyone a [edited]. You get a chat ban. Plays poorly is a silly one for them to have in there, and I suspect it's merely there so the ragers have a button to press to enact some petty vengeance. Quite simply, plays poorly by who's standard? Your average 47% WR player probably plays quite poorly by my standards, just like in the eyes of a 70% WR player I probably look like a muppet. Also a lot of people who press that button have, frankly delusional, ideas about what constitutes good play. Should I stage a fighting retreat, making the enemy pay for every KM they advance, and be reported by the maniac that thinks I should have charged in and died immediately just like he did? I won't report someone because I think they should have made better decisions. The bot one is something that would require more investigations, and I doubt we'd ever see the results - no one is going to get banned for botting and then post about it on the forums. Plenty get banned for chat, and almost always then produce a post along the lines of [edited] Which leads most forum users to assume the ban was probably appropriate in the first place. I've never yet seen anyone politely enquire about why they have acquired a chat ban Edited February 2, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation. RogDodgeUK 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,881 battles Report post #11 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Well the chat one is pretty simple: You get reported a bunch, they look at the chat logs and see you're calling everyone a [edited]. You get a chat ban. Plays poorly is a silly one for them to have in there, and I suspect it's merely there so the ragers have a button to press to enact some petty vengeance. Quite simply, plays poorly by who's standard? Your average 47% WR player probably plays quite poorly by my standards, just like in the eyes of a 70% WR player I probably look like a muppet. Also a lot of people who press that button have, frankly delusional, ideas about what constitutes good play. Should I stage a fighting retreat, making the enemy pay for every KM they advance, and be reported by the maniac that thinks I should have charged in and died immediately just like he did? I won't report someone because I think they should have made better decisions. The bot one is something that would require more investigations, and I doubt we'd ever see the results - no one is going to get banned for botting and then post about it on the forums. Plenty get banned for chat, and almost always then produce a post along the lines of [edited] Which leads most forum users to assume the ban was probably appropriate in the first place. I've never yet seen anyone politely enquire about why they have acquired a chat ban I was banned because i insulted two BB players who were camping at the back all the time and didnt do anything. And at the end i was right about they did nothing. They were at the bottom with less than 300 points. Btw we won the battle. Ok i understood your arguments but why are there a report button for these? What is the point? And about "playing poor" its not that hard. If someone gets that report because of playing poor, his statts can be checked. You are right maybe i can be a very bad player for some people. but finding a limit is not hard. If his avrg damage with that ship is really low like 75% of the server avarage with that ship, he can get a ban. Like he could be not able to play that ship for 2 days. or he could be forced to do a specific number of CO-OP battles before he can play random battles with that ship again. Its not that hard. Edited February 2, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation. RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,768 battles Report post #12 Posted February 2, 2016 I fully agree that it is a pity that you get banned if you tell those *beep* *beep* of *beep* that they play like *beep* *beep* of *beep* as the truth may hurt but it will always remain the truth! On the other hand how about politely counseling people instead? Like a true gentleman would do?! 'Dear fellow Captain Sir, as the apparent lack of control over your current vehicle is strongly implying that you are missing the excellence of execution required for the very kind of battle we are in and the tough opposition we face, may I therefore humbly recommend to either take some additional training courses in less taxing ships or take an infinite pause of play instead?' Back to topic I do also miss some valid reporting options apart from 'plays poorly' and 'bot' as those are neither precise nor complete. On purpose team damage report anyone? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ammattimies Beta Tester 450 posts 5,507 battles Report post #13 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Sadly, there is no crime in being a terribad vegetable player, and nobody's allowed to point that out. And no, nobody's looking at any logs when ppl spam their complaints on them, get enough misbehaviour in chats in a small enough timeframe - automatic system chatbans you for 1 day. Maybe it gets even worse if you keep talking the next day. But the system is right about one thing, it is pointless to keep using the chat because you can't fix bad players, you're not allowed to taunt them, and you can't change the game by using the chat no matter what you write. All you need is pretty much implemented in the F4-F10 quick voice commands. Just leave the chat alone, maybe it's not meant for you and me anyway. I guess the only way it's intended to be used is wishing those stupid "Good game and fair seas" type of nonsense that only display your noobishness even further Edited February 2, 2016 by ammattimies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,881 battles Report post #14 Posted February 2, 2016 wtih the way i suggested the bad players could maybe notice that they do someting really wrong and they are just bad players. Maybe after than they can try to get better. If the punishments were hard enough they could also stop playing that ship and they could choose the ship that they perform their best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scawl_D_Balls Players 241 posts 2,668 battles Report post #15 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) quoted post removed It's in place to ensure mouthy little online rambo's don't have free reign to scream and shout in the safety of their parents box room. Worked perfectly in this case. Well done WG. Edited February 2, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation. RogDodgeUK 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,881 battles Report post #16 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) It's in place to ensure mouthy little online rambo's don't have free reign to scream and shout in the safety of their parents box room. Worked perfectly in this case. Well done WG. [edited] Edited February 2, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation. RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortenus Players 123 posts 3,687 battles Report post #17 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) [edited] People are you not capable of understanding the point here or are you just pretending so? Hear, hear. <Yes, there's strong amount of sarcasm in this> Edited February 2, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation. RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ammattimies Beta Tester 450 posts 5,507 battles Report post #18 Posted February 2, 2016 wtih the way i suggested the bad players could maybe notice that they do someting really wrong and they are just bad players. Maybe after than they can try to get better. If the punishments were hard enough they could also stop playing that ship and they could choose the ship that they perform their best. I think it should be clear already that there is no intention of punishing bad players. After that I guess we would have 1000 players online during prime time. No need for you to start "correcting" the forum community as well, your views are old-fashioned and uneducated, to put it nicely. You're never gonna achieve anything by telling them they suck or how they should be. Everyone is just gonna get annoyed, report you and you stay chatbanned. Instead, show them by doing a great game yourself and let them figure out themselves why their score isn't that good. If you really wrote that "Hey I have an idea how we can win this easier" instead of "you suck [edited]", it might work sometimes though... I'm not a good example on how to behave, but I just want to tell you how things work :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,881 battles Report post #19 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) I think it should be clear already that there is no intention of punishing bad players. Than why is there a report option for playing poor? I can be really nice and kind if people do their best. they should not get 2-3 kills me to be kind to them. They should try. When i see that useless people in battles i cant be calm. If there were a punishment system for those players, i believe there would be less people insulting others. Edited February 2, 2016 by ghostbuster_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scawl_D_Balls Players 241 posts 2,668 battles Report post #20 Posted February 2, 2016 When i see that useless people in battles i cant be calm. That's a personality defect. Once you get out into the real world and have grown up things to worry about, little things like video games, won't seem so important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TU] Seaman_Staines1 Players 489 posts 18,124 battles Report post #21 Posted February 2, 2016 Grow up. This!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #22 Posted February 2, 2016 The fact that you label people as parasites when you complain about a chat ban due to toxic behaviour? Comedy gold. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #23 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Than why is there a report option for playing poor? I can be really nice and kind if people do their best. they should not get 2-3 kills me to be kind to them. They should try. When i see that useless people in battles i cant be calm. If there were a punishment system for those players, i believe there would be less people insulting others. It's lucky for you that there isn't a report button for [edited] Edited February 2, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation. RogDodgeUK 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Bug Players 1,428 posts 7,991 battles Report post #24 Posted February 2, 2016 Also there are too many parasites in this forum. People are you not capable of understanding the point here or are you just pretending so? If you get banned becuase of misbehavior in chat, there should also be a punishment for being reported about poor play or being a bot. Is it clear now? The difference is easy. Players can do their best and still play poorly (in the eyes of other players). While abusing the chat is always on purpose. You can judge misbehavoir in chat unbiased. Playing poor is more an opinion as a fact. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai__ Alpha Tester 500 posts 1,728 battles Report post #25 Posted February 2, 2016 another thread WOWS, the game that just keeps giving.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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