[RNP] HMS_BlindSide Players 74 posts 7,730 battles Report post #1 Posted February 2, 2016 so 3 weeks in to the Project R ship challenge and completed ever challenge for it as soon as I seen em. think its a bit naughty that I have to wait a full week just to earn 24 whole pearls. I really do think that this quest should of covered the full 260 pearls in 3 weeks for those that have actually wanted and done it, and obviously a week later for those who didn't to make the draw. I really hope this ships worth my finger ache Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_1YeUldJS8pjx Players 847 posts Report post #2 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Well, these events are designed to make you come back to the game over and over again not to finish them in a few days getting bored and making a longer break to the game. So no reason to complain. Personally I feel that there are more than enough missions to do right now. About the Kamikaze: Fujin is a Kamikaze class ship. It's tier 5 premium and therefore meant to be a little weaker than its counterpart Minekaze in the tech tree (for abvious reasons - making you play and grind the Minekaze). Comparing Fujin / Kamikaze to Minekaze you'll get: + little more HP (+200) + little faster turret traverse + little faster Torpedo reload (+0.1 / min) +/- different gun setup (3 turning over bow / 1 aft) favouring an more aggressive gameplay which these ships are not good at - little slower (1-2kn) - little slower rudder shift time (+0.8) - no optional camo painting bonus which makes you detected 200m earlier. Edited February 2, 2016 by anonym_1YeUldJS8pjx 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #3 Posted February 2, 2016 Well, these events are designed to make you come back to the game over and over again not to finish them in a few days getting bored and making a longer break to the game. So no reason to complain. Personally I feel that there are more than enough missions to do right now. About the Kamikaze: Fujin is a Kamikaze class ship. It's tier 5 premium and therefore meant to be a little weaker than its counterpart Minekaze in the tech tree (for abvious reasons - making you play and grind the Minekaze). Comparing Fujin / Kamikaze to Minekaze you'll get: - no optional camo painting bonus which makes you deteced 200m earlier. By now the Fujin's native paint job gives you the -3% bonus without paying for camo for each battle. Gameplay in the Fujin is almost indistinguishable from play in the Minekaze. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalColor Players 385 posts 3,363 battles Report post #4 Posted February 2, 2016 How is the average income? Is it safe to say that it's a Murmansk of DDs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDEAL] Pastaiolo Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester 669 posts 2,513 battles Report post #5 Posted February 2, 2016 It's just a matter of time available to play, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wunderwaffen11 Players 14 posts 860 battles Report post #6 Posted February 2, 2016 Well i dont need that to keep me in game haha...well just play for hour or two than for 2 or 3 times a day...still its far more better when you have friend with you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian1914 Beta Tester 300 posts 5,993 battles Report post #7 Posted February 2, 2016 - no optional camo painting bonus which makes you deteced 200m earlier. Wait, what? I mean I don't understand what you mean - the Kamikaze as well as the Fujin have a 0.2km more concealment, because it takes into account the fact they both get the premium camo, which already gives them the -3% detection. I'm not sure if you can demount the premium cammo, but if you put the one that gives -4% accuracy of the enemies they both get exactly the same concealment as the Minekaze. I also can't agree that it is a weaker Minekaze - it's basically an upgraded Minekaze, a bit slower but I don't see how exactly that will affect the gameplay when you will stay invisible almost all the time so you won't be maneuvering that much. Also the guns being a tiny bit better will help against let's say you face another Minekaze. People in the lower tiers generally avoid firing in their jap DDs and you will probably dish out some damage before you get to cover and having an advantage as well as some extra health helps out after all. Personally I can not wait to get the Kamikaze and will definitely sell my Minekaze after I get it. Why? Because I don't see a point in keeping it. The fact that the Kamikaze is a premium means that I won't pay extra credits for the cammo, I can use a decent ship as a crew trainer, AND the most important of it all - if you use the ship with a 15skill point captain, you can get the concealment to 5.4km if I remember correctly which is insane. I would probably be making "fail divisions" to get into high tier matches just to abuse that torpedo reload and that low concealment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNP] HMS_BlindSide Players 74 posts 7,730 battles Report post #8 Posted February 2, 2016 well I have the fujin and I was told that is was similar,,, lol. and as for boring lol the quests were completed on the 1st day of each week so that says something haha, but I'm a WoW addict so coming back isn't a problem just wished those that put the effort in shud of at least been able to of got it a week earlier for the sake of 24 pearls I have to wait 7 days for the next load of missions to reset lol if u see my point and as of the fujin, my wife bought me it for our anniversary I have 21 ships and its my favorite so far earns me a buck load of credits Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ESN] Damanta [ESN] Beta Tester 311 posts 8,960 battles Report post #9 Posted February 2, 2016 I wish I had started a week earlier as well. Missed one week worth of pearls now. Also, I think I'm never going to get the 5 pearls for 10 victories with carriers. That gameplay suits me so bad, I'm going to be a liability for the team I am in. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian1914 Beta Tester 300 posts 5,993 battles Report post #10 Posted February 2, 2016 well I have the fujin and I was told that is was similar,,, lol. and as for boring lol the quests were completed on the 1st day of each week so that says something haha, but I'm a WoW addict so coming back isn't a problem just wished those that put the effort in shud of at least been able to of got it a week earlier for the sake of 24 pearls I have to wait 7 days for the next load of missions to reset lol if u see my point and as of the fujin, my wife bought me it for our anniversary I have 21 ships and its my favorite so far earns me a buck load of credits Then you will definitely love the Kamikaze. That orange paint scheme on the Fujin is what put me off about getting that ship... and the fact it was in a bundle with stuff I did not care about 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_1YeUldJS8pjx Players 847 posts Report post #11 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Wait, what? I mean I don't understand what you mean - the Kamikaze as well as the Fujin have a 0.2km more concealment, because it takes into account the fact they both get the premium camo, which already gives them the -3% detection. I noticed on the ARP ships, the Emden and the Arkansas Beta that "event ships" seems to have two differences compared to "premium ships" that are bought from shop: a) the special design has no additional camo effect of 3% less detection and can't be changed b) no 20% bonus on credit income I might be wrong with this regarding the Kamikaze but I don't expect a camo bonus. That would leave the disireable gap to those players that payed money for the Fujin a few weeks ago. You can still put any IJN captain on it for faster training. And I expect the kamikaze to be played quite similar to the Minekaze with little differences. Edited February 2, 2016 by anonym_1YeUldJS8pjx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #12 Posted February 2, 2016 well I have the fujin and I was told that is was similar,,, lol. and as for boring lol the quests were completed on the 1st day of each week so that says something haha, but I'm a WoW addict so coming back isn't a problem just wished those that put the effort in shud of at least been able to of got it a week earlier for the sake of 24 pearls I have to wait 7 days for the next load of missions to reset lol if u see my point and as of the fujin, my wife bought me it for our anniversary I have 21 ships and its my favorite so far earns me a buck load of credits Well, then you could argue that they should have just made all missions repeatable from the start so you could have earned 260 in the first 3 days... if you didn't work. I think it makes sense to stagger it. For people who play less it does make them come back more often and it also enables a wider range of gamers to get the 260 pearls as opposed to just the hardcore element who have huge amounts of time to play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HNS] Sonic_157 Players 727 posts 18,147 battles Report post #13 Posted February 2, 2016 I wish I had started a week earlier as well. Missed one week worth of pearls now. Also, I think I'm never going to get the 5 pearls for 10 victories with carriers. That gameplay suits me so bad, I'm going to be a liability for the team I am in. If you catch all weeklies from now on, you will have no problem reaching 260 until the end of the event. You dont have to do the CV missions as well. They only worth 5 pearls. I might be wrong with this regarding the Kamikaze but I don't expect a camo bonus. That would leave the disireable gap to those players that payed money for the Fujin a few weeks ago. You can still put any IJN captain on it. And I expect the kamikaze to be played similar to the Minekaze with little differences. The Kamikaze is exactly the same as the Fujin, which in turn is a Minekaze with slight differences. Kamikaze will have the same camo bonus like the Fujin. Just different pattern and color. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_1YeUldJS8pjx Players 847 posts Report post #14 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Kamikaze will have the same camo bonus like the Fujin. Just different pattern and color. I would almost take a bet on that. Because it has the different color pattern it's easy for WG to leave that camo bonus out. I'm pretty sure they will not give a ship away for free for which people paid a good amount of money only few weeks ago. WG ist weired sometimes but they still know a little of their business. However, we'll see in just a short time... Edited February 2, 2016 by anonym_1YeUldJS8pjx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HNS] Sonic_157 Players 727 posts 18,147 battles Report post #15 Posted February 2, 2016 I would almost take a bet on that. Because it has the different color pattern it's easy for WG to leave that camo bonus out. I'm pretty sure they will not give a ship away for free for which people paid a good amount of money only few weeks ago. WG ist weired sometimes but they still know a little of their business. However, we'll see in just a short time... Ok my friend! The bet is on. The winner gets bragging rights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #16 Posted February 2, 2016 I wish I had started a week earlier as well. Missed one week worth of pearls now. Also, I think I'm never going to get the 5 pearls for 10 victories with carriers. That gameplay suits me so bad, I'm going to be a liability for the team I am in. I was never a CV player until I gave up trying to do the ARP Kongo mission part 2 with just AA cruisers. So I got me a Bogue, which I have set up with 2 fighter greoups and one Dive bomber and I'm winning most of my games. I just play until I win each night and will comfortably have it done soon enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ESN] Damanta [ESN] Beta Tester 311 posts 8,960 battles Report post #17 Posted February 2, 2016 I was never a CV player until I gave up trying to do the ARP Kongo mission part 2 with just AA cruisers. So I got me a Bogue, which I have set up with 2 fighter greoups and one Dive bomber and I'm winning most of my games. I just play until I win each night and will comfortably have it done soon enough. I'm not sure I want to even try that During CBT I tried CV's, but it just wasn't what I liked to do. Anyway, it's a mere 5 pearls I'm missing out on. I should be able to get plenty from the weeklies in my preferred cruisers and battleships.. As for the ARP Kongo en Myoko missions, I'm ignoring those if it happens, it happens, but I don't like the way they force me to seek out a single type of ship to sink for stage 1. I am mostly playing BBs nowadays, and that means long reload times, if I get an enemy low I am happy to switch to a new target while reloading. If no other ships are firing on my low health target I will do single shots to see if I can sink it, but most of my kills come from ships that go from half health to 0 from a few citadels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AXCA] Hexazar Beta Tester 90 posts 13,939 battles Report post #18 Posted February 2, 2016 I wish I had started a week earlier as well. Missed one week worth of pearls now. Also, I think I'm never going to get the 5 pearls for 10 victories with carriers. That gameplay suits me so bad, I'm going to be a liability for the team I am in. Know the feeling, managed somehow by going from tier 4 to 5 and a playing 4 games(2 in each carrier) every day until it was done. Old fart like me can't manage the multitasking/Starcraft play style anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #19 Posted February 2, 2016 CV wins were easy. I'm struggling with CA wins (currently 16 out of 25). Last night I played something like 6 CA games for 1 win. And on the losses I was top of the team for 3 of the wins. I'm not a great cruiser player and I struggle to carry in them... but it seems even when I do more than I should it doesn't matter. Maybe I should do some clubbing in my St Louis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLOTH] txtspeak Players 3,041 posts 5,653 battles Report post #20 Posted February 2, 2016 CV wins were easy. I'm struggling with CA wins (currently 16 out of 25). Last night I played something like 6 CA games for 1 win. And on the losses I was top of the team for 3 of the wins. I'm not a great cruiser player and I struggle to carry in them... but it seems even when I do more than I should it doesn't matter. Maybe I should do some clubbing in my St Louis. struggling so badly with the CV kills after a 15 loss streak (or about that many) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ESN] Damanta [ESN] Beta Tester 311 posts 8,960 battles Report post #21 Posted February 2, 2016 I'm currently at 1/10 CV wins, and 9/25 cruiser. Mostly because I've been using DD's and BB's to get my tier 2 (Storozhevoi), 4 (Wyoming), and 5 (Minekaze and New York) kills. Only for tier 3 I used cruisers. Now that I finished those I can continu with playing my Baltimore to finally get to the Des Moines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian1914 Beta Tester 300 posts 5,993 battles Report post #22 Posted February 2, 2016 I noticed on the ARP ships, the Emden and the Arkansas Beta that "event ships" seems to have two differences compared to "premium ships" that are bought from shop: a) the special design has no additional camo effect of 3% less detection and can't be changed b) no 20% bonus on credit income I might be wrong with this regarding the Kamikaze but I don't expect a camo bonus. That would leave the disireable gap to those players that payed money for the Fujin a few weeks ago. You can still put any IJN captain on it for faster training. And I expect the kamikaze to be played quite similar to the Minekaze with little differences. I can't say for sure what bonuses gift shop and reward ships give as I do not have that many myself, but from what I've seen from stats, screenshots and videos, the premium camo for a premium ship gives the more sensible bonuses - for example the Arkansas get's -4% enemy accuracy as it does not benefit from the concealment camo as a DD would for example. The Atago, Kutuzov and the Murmansk also get the -4% accuracy bonus as well from what I remeber. But there is no need to be guessing or expecting something about it - usually when a new ship arrives a few days later you can always find the exact stats, you just need to look for them, and from all the information I have looked at so far, the Kamikaze will be exactly the same as the Fujin. Than again, there is still that slight possibility that a Kamikaze will differ from a Kamikaze R, due to the fact that they are designated as two different ships, but I highly doubt they will make that move. It would be really low from WG's side to do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ESN] Damanta [ESN] Beta Tester 311 posts 8,960 battles Report post #23 Posted February 2, 2016 I'm past the 150 pearl mark, at least I'm in the running for the lottery now 2 weeks worth of dailies should put me over 260 and a guaranteed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WarJagger Players 123 posts 1,171 battles Report post #24 Posted February 2, 2016 I just finished the CV mission today. Thinking of selling both my Langley and Hoshio and never play CV again lol. Although I might grind one of them a little more to get the next ship and use the dive bombers to set fires. That's always a lot of fun. Also kills DD's so it might help with the ARP challenges. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #25 Posted February 3, 2016 I think they could have added 3 daily missions as well for a total of 5 pears/day. Something like: 3 battles played (1 pearl), 3 kills (2 pearls) and 7k total XP (2 pearls). A tiny bit extra for those who play daily or semi-daily. As they have it now you just finish the one-time missions over 1-2 weeks depending on how much you play and do the weekly missions over 3 hours to 1 day each week. The rest of the time is just waiting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites