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When will these BB [edited] learn that snipping from 20km away is actually a disadvantage and most the time they will miss.

Seriously learn to play these ships, you actually hurt your whole team trying to snipe the all fights . 

When willl these people understand a BB becomes more effective the closer it gets to hits target rather than just hanging all the way in the back of the map and not tank like they suppose too, get closer you most likely will hit something .

Follow the cruisers and provide fire support and get within a good range to make your guns worth it. Your ships is meant to be in the thick of the battle , not hang in the back hiding and trying to snipe. You can take a lot of damage and create a lot pressure if you push with the fleet.

 

When i play my BB's i tend to get on average 10-15km within my target , snipping is extremely rare since by the time your salvo reached the target they have  a lot of time to change course and totally avoid them .

But seem a lot of BB players are extremely awful and have no idea how to play these ships.

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Well one problem is that the BBs cant keep up with the CAs. Another problem is that not many CA captains care about covering the BBs, seems they are more interested in dieing really really fast.

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When will these BB [edited] learn that snipping from 20km away is actually a disadvantage and most the time they will miss.

Seriously learn to play these ships, you actually hurt your whole team trying to snipe the all fights . 

When willl these people understand a BB becomes more effective the closer it gets to hits target rather than just hanging all the way in the back of the map and not tank like they suppose too, get closer you most likely will hit something .

Follow the cruisers and provide fire support and get within a good range to make your guns worth it. Your ships is meant to be in the thick of the battle , not hang in the back hiding and trying to snipe. You can take a lot of damage and create a lot pressure if you push with the fleet.

 

When i play my BB's i tend to get on average 10-15km within my target , snipping is extremely rare since by the time your salvo reached the target they have  a lot of time to change course and totally avoid them .

But seem a lot of BB players are extremely awful and have no idea how to play these ships.

 

well according to your statts on BBs you fit perfectly to this thread.
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I prefer close combat (especially with Yamato and New Mexico) too, but I don't think 20km is sniping.

 

It's about priorities. As long as there is no closer threat, firing at any distance depends only on your prediction skills. If you split your shots, you can quite accurately fire even at 30km range (Yamato can fire up to 37km) with good chance to deliver serious damage to CA. When it comes to CA, 23km+ is good chance as people don't expect you to fire at such distance. Just wait, predict the 3 possible positions and split your shots. He may avoid one or two, but move directly into the third.

 

At 17-22km it's about the same but it depends on enemy's skill. It's very difficult to hit skilled player at 17km, but super easy to hit poor player at 22km or more. And by hits I mean citadels. Always prioritize targets you have good chance to citadel.

 

Under 16km, if the enemy shows side, it's dead meat. If not and getting closer, it's pretty much the same, it will just take little bit longer due to shell spread.

 

Against BB, ignore them. They should be your last target unless they offer you easy citadels.

 

Only serious threat for you are torpedoes and stuff you can't see. But you can predict it and play "dumb". How to avoid torpedoes? 99% of time this will work like charm. Don't just show you are going to maneuver and then turn back. Patient enemies will wait for it. You must make them actually think that you are going that way by turning even more. And then change your direction completely. Plan your path minutes ahead and you will never have serious issues. If enemy BB's fire upon you, just laugh. Unless you show your side, it will take very long time to sink. Meanwhile, prioritize cruisers and if you ever get close to DD, don't be afraid and be patient. At close distance, you will most likely one-shot it. This shouldn't happen at all but if it happens and your secondaries don't kill it earlier, make the DD pay for stupid idea of getting close to you:)

 

So what's the point? Prediction is the most important skill you need to work on. It makes your shots more deadly, it makes you survive longer, it makes you key element for winning battles. And best part of it? You can utilize it in every ship.

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When will these BB [edited] learn that snipping from 20km away is actually a disadvantage and most the time they will miss.

Seriously learn to play these ships, you actually hurt your whole team trying to snipe the all fights . 

When willl these people understand a BB becomes more effective the closer it gets to hits target rather than just hanging all the way in the back of the map and not tank like they suppose too, get closer you most likely will hit something .

Follow the cruisers and provide fire support and get within a good range to make your guns worth it. Your ships is meant to be in the thick of the battle , not hang in the back hiding and trying to snipe. You can take a lot of damage and create a lot pressure if you push with the fleet.

 

When i play my BB's i tend to get on average 10-15km within my target , snipping is extremely rare since by the time your salvo reached the target they have  a lot of time to change course and totally avoid them .

But seem a lot of BB players are extremely awful and have no idea how to play these ships.

 

I think you are the one who dont know how to play BBs properly, also visible from your stats how low damage you do with BBs (you probably die too fast). Experienced BBs players will not rush in the start of battle, they will select proper path to move on and while doing it they will snipe. In decisive moment of the game, experienced players will then push with their BBs forward. I think you are the one who rush with BB and you probably die first from DDs , and after you die, your team must compensate your absence.
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I think you are the one who dont know how to play BBs properly, also visible from your stats how low damage you do with BBs (you probably die too fast). 

 

Considering his accuracy with BBs he is most likely exactly what he is complaining about and might just be trolling.

 

Some of his hit rates:

 

New Mexico: 12%

Colorado: 14%

North Carolina: 13%

Tirpitz: 18%

Iowa: 12%

 

Sorry OP, but you are not really in a position to be complaining about other BB drivers, especially not the sniping variety.

 

That aside, DangerCZE and albinbino are offering some important advice.

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You're not exactly a great BB player either.

 

So ironic that a player criticising another players stats have hidden his own. Anyway, http://warshipstats.com/eu/player/motoreto_ES shows that you are no better / are one of those camping and not helping team win.

And the questionable morale in attacking another players stats while hiding your own...

Sorry, I just hate double morale.

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When will these BB [edited] learn that snipping from 20km away is actually a disadvantage and most the time they will miss.

Seriously learn to play these ships, you actually hurt your whole team trying to snipe the all fights . 

When willl these people understand a BB becomes more effective the closer it gets to hits target rather than just hanging all the way in the back of the map and not tank like they suppose too, get closer you most likely will hit something .

Follow the cruisers and provide fire support and get within a good range to make your guns worth it. Your ships is meant to be in the thick of the battle , not hang in the back hiding and trying to snipe. You can take a lot of damage and create a lot pressure if you push with the fleet.

 

When i play my BB's i tend to get on average 10-15km within my target , snipping is extremely rare since by the time your salvo reached the target they have  a lot of time to change course and totally avoid them .

But seem a lot of BB players are extremely awful and have no idea how to play these ships.

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SNIPING:

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I am just curious but what counts as good hit rate?

 

I would say 30%, but anything above 20% is fine. If it's below 20%, you are either sniping way too much or need to practice your aiming.

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I would say 30%, but anything above 20% is fine. If it's below 20%, you are either sniping way too much or need to practice your aiming.

 

Sniping is not really a thing for me, I love closer encounters. Not really successful at it, but it is much, much more fun.

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It's impossible to objectively judge by one stat. And hit rate especially can be low if you fire whenever you can no matter how desperate the chance is:) It's practice. If you try to fire at max range (because no enemy is closer), eventually you get better in "sniping" how you call it:) But yeah, anything over 20% is good and doesn't tell anything about you. You need other stats to make the picture complete.

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To be honest, I don't think that there are a lot more bad BB-captains than other classes. The problem with bad BBs is, that their bad performance has a much higher impact on the match than a bad CA or DD.

Maybe a bad CV can be equal bad for your team, but he can at least spot, if anything.

 

PS: I'm soon getting the Amagi and until now i really tried to tank for my team in the IJN BBs and engage enemies at 12-16km. But most people on the forum are telling that the Amagi is a lot more of a Sniper, due to it's weak armor and high shell-velocitiy. So is it bad if i try to stay back with this ship (thinking about 15-20km), or can i play it similar to Fuso/Nagato?

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PS: I'm soon getting the Amagi and until now i really tried to tank for my team in the IJN BBs and engage enemies at 12-16km. But most people on the forum are telling that the Amagi is a lot more of a Sniper, due to it's weak armor and high shell-velocitiy. So is it bad if i try to stay back with this ship (thinking about 15-20km), or can i play it similar to Fuso/Nagato?

 

The Amagi is a solid tank as long as you are not showing your sides to the enemy. Only its citadel armor is lacking, which means you will receive a lot of citadel hits if you show your side, but apart from that it is just as tanky as the other BBs.

 

General strategy is to stay at 15-18 KM (T6-T8) / 16-20 KM (T9/T10) at the beginning and let your accuracy+shell velocity do the talking. Once you have assessed the situation and determined that you can afford to start moving forward, you can engage tanking mode.

 

You gotta be very careful about when to start your tanking, though. The Amagi has to show a lot of its side to fire all guns and as mentioned before doing that is very dangerous in the Amagi.

If you start tanking in a situation where you are outnumbered and forced to play defensive, you will only be able to use your 2 front turrets unless you are willing to potentially receive a lot of damage.

 

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Hit rate is irrelevant for me, only amount of damage  one does per ship is true indicator if you use that ship properly or not.

Heaving said this, I admit also I am not good at using some ships like Myoko and North Carolina. But hit rate means nothing, only damage means something, because that tells if player is hitting ships in proper spots and finally damage rate tells you how much impact you make in the battle for your team.

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When will these BB [edited] learn that snipping from 20km away is actually a disadvantage and most the time they will miss.

Seriously learn to play these ships, you actually hurt your whole team trying to snipe the all fights . 

When willl these people understand a BB becomes more effective the closer it gets to hits target rather than just hanging all the way in the back of the map and not tank like they suppose too, get closer you most likely will hit something .

Follow the cruisers and provide fire support and get within a good range to make your guns worth it. Your ships is meant to be in the thick of the battle , not hang in the back hiding and trying to snipe. You can take a lot of damage and create a lot pressure if you push with the fleet.

 

When i play my BB's i tend to get on average 10-15km within my target , snipping is extremely rare since by the time your salvo reached the target they have  a lot of time to change course and totally avoid them .

But seem a lot of BB players are extremely awful and have no idea how to play these ships.

Lot of noobs playing with every class not just BB. But i know why. Its secret and dont tell anyone. Noobs are the biggest part of community in every online game. :hiding: Its always fun to watch how player with 42 % WR and 15k avg dmg cries for noob team and he is the biggest one there  :trollface:

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So ironic that a player criticising another players stats have hidden his own. Anyway, http://warshipstats.com/eu/player/motoreto_ES shows that you are no better / are one of those camping and not helping team win.

And the questionable morale in attacking another players stats while hiding your own...

Sorry, I just hate double morale.

 

The slight difference is that I'm not opening stupid threads in a forum. Double morale? not at all.

 

I have no problem in showing my stats. If they are private is because of the XVM-like mod. And, while not excellent, I'm miles away from the OP.

 

 

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Also try to "get close" to an enemy when tier 8-9-10 IJN destroyers are lurking around :))) Not to forget the usual lack of AA screen from your team mates... Also why should I enter the range of the HE shower ships with my BB???

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I think after Goktsu started five (whinning/troll) threads the last days:

 

Upgrade +2 torpedo?

DD'S

Tier X shimikaze what a joke!

More cowards in this game.

BB a lot of idiots plays these ships.

 

he will become my new favorite troll in this forum and succeed _xXx_Archeron_xX_.

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I think after Goktsu started five (whinning/troll) threads the last days:

 

Upgrade +2 torpedo?

DD'S

Tier X shimikaze what a joke!

More cowards in this game.

BB a lot of idiots plays these ships.

 

he will become my new favorite troll in this forum and succeed _xXx_Archeron_xX_.

 

I was just about to make a similar post.  He is very sharing with whatever trollish thought happens to be in his head:sceptic:

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