All is ok but Kutuzov stuff is "too much" for me

[MATREKUS]

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[OttoKretschmer]

how do you know, for this buff ?

[Gatt]

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[Kapten_Kaos]

Needed a buff.  Way too weak for a t8 cruiser.  Still is.  But atleast now it got something going for it. 

[Xevious_Red]

What's the flight time at 19km? Also interested in what other changes there are in 5.3, seen the AA ones but don't know if there's anything else. 2 captain skills supposedly changed, but don't know if any others are, or if there's new ones

[B010011A]

Kutuzov is one of the weakest ships at its tier so I dont know why you complaining.

[BadGene616]

Op has hissy fit over rumoured, unofficial change announcements on the forum.

 

Nothing to see here, move along.

[LilJumpa]

You are a bit too early to already clinch 1st place, since this week is pretty young, but you are a strong contender for the " most retarded rant of the week".

 

Archeron won't make it easy for you, so don't count on being on top.

[von_Boeg]

Needed a buff.  Way too weak for a t8 cruiser.  Still is.  But atleast now it got something going for it. 

 

No it did not, the last two weeks it has been clocking in on 53% WR and is in the middle of the pack. Same WR as Atago and Mogami, but slightly less damage, but better then both the US and German cruiser on Tier 8. Silly good air defence compared to all other cruisers.

 

This buff is coming quite close to pay-to-win, but even more annoying is that it yet again is a Russian ship that "needs buffs" while it in all honestly is doing just fine.

[ilhilh]

If people use the Mikail well it can be brutally effective.  Sit behind an island and then jump a BB not paying attention by sliding out into a cloud of your own smoke.  The pummel said BB who can't even see you and can't get out of range.  Oh wait... you just buffed RoF and range?  Excellent...

[Sonic_157]

 

Guys all these rumored changes in 0.5.3 are not yet implemented and moreover they are not certain!

All we have is speculation, leaks and shady information.

Also, many times we have seen some changes in the test server that never make it to live.

So, stop worrying and arguing about things we do not know.

 

[allufewig]

It is a buff, but mainly for people with sh*t-captains. For players with good captains almost nothing changes.

 

-Range was 19,1km with AFT before, is now 19,1km. Points will most likely stay at AFT for the AA-radius or use on DDs.

-Turret Rotation was buffed exactly so much as to compensate for the loss of the caliber-bonus of expert marksman. Points will stay there though as even 0,7°/s will help the ship.
 

The effective buffs are +0,13rpm (a little overcompensation for loss of BFT). Depending on captain theres maybe 1-4 skill-points you could spend on other perks now. The effective gain is extremely small.

 

[LilJumpa]

It is a buff, but mainly for people with sh*t-captains. For players with good captains almost nothing changes.

 

-Range was 19,1km with AFT before, is now 19,1km. Points will most likely stay at AFT for the AA-radius or use on DDs.

-Turret Rotation was buffed exactly so much as to compensate for the loss of the caliber-bonus of expert marksman. Points will stay there though as even 0,7°/s will help the ship.

 

The effective buffs are +0,13rpm (a little overcompensation for loss of BFT). Depending on captain theres maybe 1-4 skill-points you could spend on other perks now. The effective gain is extremely small.

 

 

#this

 

in addition, with AFT and BFT also being the best choice for MK, it was a perfect Captain-Retrainer for RU-DDs, which also use both skills. Now you will need either a seperate Captain for the MK to use these extra perks or live with perks not working for it anymore. If this goes live!

[Amysu]

 

Guys all these rumored changes in 0.5.3 are not yet implemented and moreover they are not certain!

 

All we have is speculation, leaks and shady information.

 

Also, many times we have seen some changes in the test server that never make it to live.

 

So, stop worrying and arguing about things we do not know.

 

 

You say it.

You see not all waht we test and many things you never see

[OVanBruce]

The very idea that all other cruisers that benefit from those perks are going to get nerfed while the Kutuzov remains exactly the same and even receives a buff no matter how small it is makes me feel outraged. It's exactly the same story as the Atago, just pay2win, any experienced player can, as Kutuzov is now, make the ship shine and even stats show this.

 

We should show our strong oposition to this kind of policies even before they are implemented, and we should PRECISELY do it NOW before Kutuzov becomes the next Atago.

 

Ranked is slowly becoming premium land: Blyskawica, Atago, Tirpitz, YoLang and Kutuzov. Look, all positions in the meta can be filled with ships superior to their silver counterparts. Now we only need a tier VIII premium CV like Kaga or Akagi and we are good to go.

[ilhilh]

#this

 

in addition, with AFT and BFT also being the best choice for MK, it was a perfect Captain-Retrainer for RU-DDs, which also use both skills. Now you will need either a seperate Captain for the MK to use these extra perks or live with perks not working for it anymore. If this goes live!

 

Or a Gremyayaschy 

[Atris2nd]

Again, I'll say it's the exact same thing as Atago, which is currently superior to every other tier 8 cruiser. Why not complain about that, it has much deadlier guns, can heal which means it wins cruiser duels 9 times out of 10 and it has the best torpedo layout a cruiser can have. Mikhail is nowhere near as good as that. Considering the concealment rating on it, it can't even fire invisible, which is what I assume most of your problems stem from. Otherwise, I cannot understand why you're sh*tting exactly on Kutuzov and not Atago.

 

Maybe some people still go by that non-existent russian bias arguement :v

[Noobsplatter]

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I for one love the kutuzovs when I drive my shima, most of them, unlike DD drivers don`t know that when you sit in your little happy place that is smoke...a torp wall will come because that is what IJN DD`s do (s##tting on your smokeparades since cbt). 

 

I actually did that the other day, 2 kutuzovs in a division being clever with their smoke usage. My first wall missed due to a airplane spotting torps. The second wall however (these guys did not learn from their near death experience)..2 hits, 1 dead and the survivor lived for mere seconds before my div mate in a des moines heard the wonderful sound of shell hits. The tears were so salty my kidney`s started hurting 

[OVanBruce]

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[allufewig]

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Because Kutuzov would suffer extra heavy in a meta not cruiser-friendly already. It is based on range and rof (whereas Atago is more based on stealth, alpha, durability) and is only really competitive with AFT and BFT active. Everyone that plays it above average has these running as they are absolutely mandatory.

 

On the other side we have a lot of light cruiser that perform very well as is and go into overperform-mode with AFT/ BFT. Kuma, Mogami, Luis, Omaha, Murmansk, Cleveland...

 

I dont see the changes to the perks or to Kutuzov as especially problematic.

[von_Boeg]

Again, I'll say it's the exact same thing as Atago, which is currently superior to every other tier 8 cruiser. Why not complain about that, it has much deadlier guns, can heal which means it wins cruiser duels 9 times out of 10 and it has the best torpedo layout a cruiser can have. Mikhail is nowhere near as good as that. Considering the concealment rating on it, it can't even fire invisible, which is what I assume most of your problems stem from. Otherwise, I cannot understand why you're sh*tting exactly on Kutuzov and not Atago.

 

Maybe some people still go by that non-existent russian bias arguement :v

 

The Atago is not superior to all other Tier 8, the Mogami hits on avarage 41K damage per battle and the Atago 38K. MK scores on avarage 37K.,

[Jethro_Grey]

Again, I'll say it's the exact same thing as Atago, which is currently superior to every other tier 8 cruiser. Why not complain about that, it has much deadlier guns, can heal which means it wins cruiser duels 9 times out of 10 and it has the best torpedo layout a cruiser can have. Mikhail is nowhere near as good as that. Considering the concealment rating on it, it can't even fire invisible, which is what I assume most of your problems stem from. Otherwise, I cannot understand why you're sh*tting exactly on Kutuzov and not Atago.

 

Maybe some people still go by that non-existent russian bias arguement :v

 

 

Because the Atago is more widespread then the Kutuzov?^^

You can find Atagos in every game, Kutuzovs not so much and noone wants Premiumships to get nerfed, at least not those which are in ones own posession. ^^

 

The Kutuzov is a paper ship, which can be deadly in certain situations, and since i have a MK of my very own, i is happy with buffs to ships i own.

[Cor3y]

every change will not be liked by someone... that's just how things are...

 

now let's move on!

[Noobsplatter]

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I am happy because like with atago, most players are not able to utilize it to it`s full potential. This often makes them easy targets, while very deadly in the right hands but that can be said for any ship. 

[OVanBruce]

 

 

Because Kutuzov would suffer extra heavy in a meta not cruiser-friendly already. It is based on range and rof (whereas Atago is more based on stealth, alpha, durability) and is only really competitive with AFT and BFT active. Everyone that plays it above average has these running as they are absolutely mandatory.

 

On the other side we have a lot of light cruiser that perform very well as is and go into overperform-mode with AFT/ BFT. Kuma, Mogami, Luis, Omaha, Murmansk, Cleveland...

 

I dont see the changes to the perks or to Kutuzov as especially problematic.

 

It doesn't need BFT and AFT to be effective, it's just more difficult to play. It has smoke so it can hide at will when things get hairy and it's got the best 155mm guns in the game. It's a dammed premium, it's got no right to be better than silver ships in its tier simply because you payed money for it. 

 

About your other "overperforming" ships, FOR GOD'S SAKE, it isn't top secret that those ships are used by sealclubbers and statpadders all the time. WG is making an awful mistake by balancing the game around tomatoes.