Higher tiers are now saturated with Destroyers to the detriment of the game

[D3D_CH]

Recently the sheer numbers (and imbalance of distribution) of DDs I am experiencing in higher tier matches has become a very de-stabilising influence on the game play. The sheer numbers of torps makes it look more like Space Invaders than anything to do with ships.

 

I can perfectly understand and accept the existence of DDs (rock/paper/scissors) but when you have 5 DDs on one side (3x T10 and 2 xT9) against 3 T7s on a game where you must hold caps, it is just simply broken.

 

I almost exclusively play cruisers, but it pretty much affects everybody. Constantly manoeuvring and trying to predict where the next set of spammed torp walls are coming from, while being permanently spotted and being targets for the BBs (at T10 that inevitably means the sniping Yamatos which are hiding way out of range with an array of spotted juicy targets to chose from - only a matter of time before RNG deals you a few citadels). The extra DDs can sit invisibly on any cap and the game can be half over before any ship is even sunk.

This may be seen as simply another rant, but I've got to the point where I am drifting away from WOWS. Whereas once I would enjoy settling down for a session - now I carry on past my PC. I no longer see it as a challenge to improve my own performance but more a one sided battle against MM and balancing - which I have no influence over. This leaves me frustrated more than anything else. Bottom line : It is just simply not fun anymore at higher tiers. Gone is the feeling of "just one more game" ...

 

No fuss, no drama .. simply beginning to turn my back on WOWS and quietly walk away.

 

D.

[Arakus]

No fuss, no drama .. simply beginning to turn my back on WOWS and quietly walk away.

 

Then just do it, quietly!

[cherry2blost]

Play more at tier 5 to 7 balance is much better there also people tend to use their ships more in the way they are designed...

[D3D_CH]

 

Then just do it, quietly!

 

No noise. No histrionics. Useful feedback should be appreciated, from whoever writes them.

Instead of having a snipe at me, how about commenting on the issues I actually wrote about.

It seems ad hominem attacks are the knee-jerk, default response in this moshpit.

Tier 5/6/7 are fun, but I was commenting on the higher tiers.

[BabyAdmiral]

No fuss, no drama .. simply beginning to turn my back on WOWS and quietly walk away.

 

By not only posting this in a random thread, but opening a new thread for the sole purpose of telling the world how you feel about this issue, you have already created fuss and drama.

[BabyAdmiral]

Play more at tier 5 to 7 balance is much better there also people tend to use their ships more in the way they are designed...

 

I exclusively play tier 8 ships at the moment, and am not experiencing any balance issues.

[AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams]

Hotspot, 3 point domination, 1 vs 6 dd. VI against all VII and VIII.

 

And we won. :-)

 

[MrRibz]

 

No noise. No histrionics. Useful feedback should be appreciated, from whoever writes them.

Instead of having a snipe at me, how about commenting on the issues I actually wrote about.

It seems ad hominem attacks are the knee-jerk, default response in this moshpit.

Tier 5/6/7 are fun, but I was commenting on the higher tiers.

 

Its rare to receive a useful comment in reply to a rant thread. I'm with you on this one.

I only have one T8 and it's a Benson. To be honest I've only played with destroyers for weeks now as I feel rng has no real impact on my performance. If I play well and get good results it's because i deserved it in that match. 

 

I cant see a fix unless they cap the amount of dds per side. Can't be to hard to do.

[MrRibz]

Hotspot, 3 point domination, 1 vs 6 dd. VI against all VII and VIII.

 

And we won. :-)

 

You took that screen shoot so did you take one to show the win? 

[Kazomir]

It's because high tier cruisers are crap and nobody does anything about it. Zao excluded.

[D3D_CH]

This is a typical line-up I see these days ... Need more than both hands and feet to count the number of torps in the water at one time.

 

[D3D_CH]

 

By not only posting this in a random thread, but opening a new thread for the sole purpose of telling the world how you feel about this issue, you have already created fuss and drama.

 

It was done with restraint to highlight the gameplay issues I have experienced, and posted in the gameplay section, but it seems most everybody wants to avoid discussing them in this thread. Better time to be had by replying with snide comments at the OP.

Next time I will post a warm glowing gameplay comment and we can all have a group hug.

 

 

[MudMonkey]

This topic has been posted already. And the majority thinks that the main reason for this imbalance are the missing CVs. Without CVs you can do a LOT more as a DD during a game.

 

Therefore the problem are not the DDs but the missing spotting ability of CV aircrafts.

[N00b32]

Therefore the problem are not the DDs but the missing spotting ability of CV aircrafts.

 

Let's all celebrate mirror matchmaking (;)). Because without mirror matchmaking there would be a free carrier to spot DDs every few games. And he could even be matched against a lot of DDs. ^^ It would solve so many problems without buffing carriers. ^^

 

Well, 3 month ago some community contributors were ranting how carriers were the arty of WoWS. Now DDs are considered as arty "obviously". Truth be told the only time I can do somehting other while playing is if I play a BB. I used to play a mobile game while playing BBs. 

[MartiniHenrie]

I agree with Cherry, running away from a game because people are playing with ships that they enjoy and you don't is no reason.  Play tiers 5 - 7 at the are the most fun, and you're golden, or wait far more content.

[AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams]

You took that screen shoot so did you take one to show the win? 

 

I didn't want to make it look like bragging, but if my word is not good enough and you insist....

 

[slipzen]

 

I didn't want to make it look like bragging, but if my word is not good enough and you insist....

 

 

Something is really strange when you cant even say "i once won a game with weird MM" without having to show proof. :O

[Vulgarny]

Its not that Im here to wrote " I did say so "

But well I did say so that overnerfing CV will lead to torp infestation

[Feign_Death]

Its not that Im here to wrote " I did say so "

But well I did say so that overnerfing CV will lead to torp infestation

 

Havent cv been buffed lately? I see much more of them in battle atleast. I have seen several kraken awards lately with cv so cant be all bad?

[Vulgarny]

low tiers maybe for missions, but finding t9-t10 cv is quite problematic

[Crooq_Lionfang]

Higher tiers were for a while saturated with CVs and later BBs to the detriment of the game. Welcome to the cycle.

[Smeggo]

I'm curious when cruisers will be up on the cycle-wheel 

 

[Ferry_25]

I see your point. As a BB fan I was getting more and more disappointed at the higher tiers. I started with the US line. When I reached the Montana I found the matches boring as hell: sailing left and right and fire at vague red bleeps, doing 800 dmg per shot. After trying to play my role: tank forward I found myself sailing at the ARS Shimikaze, ocean of steel torpedo's, shot from A1, joining the Wolf Pack over and over again. And I think it's totally disproportional I must head a Yamato with HE in order to deal some damage to it. Uptil T9 a USN and a IJN BB could face each other with AP and hurt each other, roughly, the same way. But for me it's no reason to abandon this game. I no longer feel the "urge" to advance in tiers anymore. Not that I've rushed the tiers: I was very curious how the next lvls would be like to play. and no, it's not about always winning the match. It's about having a great battle. I absolutely love the BB confrontations in which we circle around and unleash whatever we can throw at each other! 50% I get hammered down and 50% the red.

[Unintentional_submarine]

Its not that Im here to wrote " I did say so "

But well I did say so that overnerfing CV will lead to torp infestation

 

It wasn't exactly a secret... plenty people said that the loss of carriers would happen, and that the game would suffer from it.

I do remember that initially there were a lot of... people... that said how they loved the new carrierless games. But as we know, the real ramifications of a change takes time to manifest itself. So I guess those people had a few 'glorious' weeks until the DDs discovered the possibilities of the new meta.

Too bad that cruisers lost out in both situations. Surprisingly that was a consequence few were able to divine, but then again, cruisers are hated by everyone else. Carriers because they have Defensive Fire, battleships because they set a lot of fires and destroyers because they are for most tiers the most scary enemies. So nobody really considered them.

 

And yeah, carriers haven't really been buffed lately. IJN carriers got the new converging torpedospread, and that's that biggest change in a while. It improved the fun factor a bit it seems, but ultimately it didn't really change the overall numbers.

The reason we see more carriers are likely down to a number of missions where carriers either do better at them or are directly required. If no changes are made, we will see a sharp drop-off in a few weeks again when the missions are done.

[SkollUlfr]

can you send some of them to tier 5 & 6? id really like to get my arp mission done but im getting game after game with no destroyers at all.

 

And yeah, carriers haven't really been buffed lately. IJN carriers got the new converging torpedospread, and that's that biggest change in a while. It improved the fun factor a bit it seems, but ultimately it didn't really change the overall numbers.

The reason we see more carriers are likely down to a number of missions where carriers either do better at them or are directly required. If no changes are made, we will see a sharp drop-off in a few weeks again when the missions are done.

 

personally, i think carriers would be more interesting if carriers had the same torp aim prediction as ships, but not auto-aim