Just here to complain about the Ars Nova missions

[Sorata_]

No, I'm not going to say "ther shudnt be stoopid anime ships in muh historical naval battle simulator!"

I'm here to complain at the criteria, duration and the timing.

 

Personally, I'd have loved to do this marathon and get the ships. I like the Ars Nova series a lot, I [used to] like WoWs too.

First, the criteria.

First stage of each: 30 kills on cruisers/destroyers.

Each game lasts 15 mins. Usually with I think 10 people per team and 3 or 4 are cruisers. 

If I'm lucky I can get a kill on a cruiser once every 2 games. I'm not a bad player, I get a decent amount of kills on average and I can do an awful lot of damage to cruisers, but always some sneaky guy will nick the kill. With 10 minutes between games (in port/searching for a game), that's 40 minutes to progress. That equates to roughly 20 hours worth, just to do the first stage, on one missions. Another 20 hours for destroyers.

40 hours of gameplay (which honestly isn't too fun to begin with *cough* fires *cough*) just to do both stage 1 missions. I don't even know the second and third stages of the missions. I couldn't bare to see how tall the mountain is.

 

Second, the duration.

Gave us just 2 months to do this? For both ships? Do you expect us all to be unemployed, full-time chair potatoes? 

This ties in with my third issue; the timing. 

We've just gone passed the holiday season, where everyone is going back to school/work/university(me), and NOW you decide to do this marathon event? 

You couldn't do this during a period where holidays are common? Summer? Easter? You announced it before christmas and at the time I thought "ah perfect something to do in my time off", and you don't begin it until January.

 

This could all be intentional - wanting to limit the number of people who will get the ships, to create exclusivity and entice demand, then release them as 50 euro bundles each. Wouldn't be a surprise for such a greedy corporation.

Whether it is intentional or not, nothing annoys me more than having a carrot dangled in my face and knowing I can't get it because I don't have the time necessary to grab it. So, because of this, I've quit the game. I honestly wasn't finding it too fun anyway, but when I saw the Ars Nova ships announcement, I really got stuck into the game again and was checking the website nearly hourly waiting for them, then it all fell apart when I saw the missions... To make such an intensive set of missions at this time of year... Boggles my mind. Another decision by WG which has left me feeling very alienated. Surely you're aware that a good chunk of your playerbase are students? I can't chose a game over university exams I'm afraid.

If it was about 6 months - I could bare with it, but I lost a lot of faith in WG/WoWs because of this. Too much faith lost to wish to play.

 

Yeah, I'm bitter about it. Call me a whiner if you want. I don't really care about responses because I'm personally done with this.

Just wanted to leave a complaint before I left, as some kind of feedback, as to why you lost a player with these missions.

 

tl;dr

I quit because I wanted the fancy ships, but you made it impossible for me.

[IamTroublemaker]

You just need the appropriate ships and that is it. Did most of the DD kills with my US DDs, fires with IJN CAs and so on... I did not play too much in last month or so, I still managed to do the Kongo missions and I am did more than 200 fires so far. I am not even paying attention to mission requirements while playing, I just check it from time to time and that is it.

 

EDIT: The only complaint that I have, about those missions is that we could not do them in ranked battles (which came too early).

[mtm78]

 

I think Trigger_Happy_Dad did the Kongo mission in 2 days iirc, Kongo in like a week? I play a lot less games and didn't even have a BB other then low tier premiums or freebee ships ( and for killing cruisers, BB is still the best bet ) but I've been able to do it within a reasonable amount of time as well ( I unlocked Myoko yesterday or the day before ).

 

The effort required was not a small one, but in reach of everyone who wanted it if you'd ask me.

 

But, I have to admit I might not represent the more casual player. I surely am not in my exam time either, so I reckon it's a pretty safe bet I have more free time to spend on the game.

 

[Foehamster419]

I had until the 4th of January off, so I finished both missions then =x If I hadn't had the time off, I'd probably have done it over two weekends anyways.

 

Also Christ, quitting over this? I think you didn't want to play this game in the first place =p

[Nechrom]

The Kongo mission went really fast. Something like two weeks of regular play, not focusing on anything in particular.

 

Been slowly working on the Myoko mission and I'm about to finish the 2nd stage on that. Took quite a while due to the only time I'm in a position to do fire damage with tier VI+ ships is while doing the daily in the Ibuki and Cleveland.

 

If I were to actually grind out the missions they'd be finished much faster, but I quickly realized that 2 months was plenty of time to complete them while playing as I normally do.

[N00b32]

This could all be intentional - wanting to limit the number of people who will get the ships, to create exclusivity and entice demand, then release them as 50 euro bundles each.

 

I seriously doubt a normal ship will be sold for 50 euro just for the painting. And Kongo and Myoko are only Kongo and Myoko. 

 

Btw. I did most of the missions in T VI ships (Mexico, Nürnberg, Aoba), that is nice, because there seem to be more cruisers on IV and V. The dd killing was mostly fubuki though and relative quick, because you get a dd from time to time in Aoba or Nürnberg. Only the fire part was a real act despite using Aoba with 20% fire chance.

[Kapten_Kaos]

First off, theyre not fancy or anything. Simply generic promotion ware.

 

And the missions can be done simultaneously. Just pick a ship that you excel with and focus on sinking destroyers and cruisers.

[horrst]

The issue I have with the "sink X number of Y type of ship" is that it promotes bad gameplay. If you know you HAVE to kill that one DD in order to finally get your mission done you'll do stupid things, and mission really shouldn't support that. And besides that MM really likes to screw you, putting nearly none of the kind of target you need into the enemy team....

[Takru]

Errrm.... am I seeing things or is there someone complaining that he feels unable to get a ship for free because there are things to be done ingame which are also totally free of charge? Nevermind that you still have a full month trying to get them?

[Kenjiro_]

There you had 2 whole months to complete the missions. Still have one. They are (Myoko particularily) a little long but can be achieved just by playing. Don't be disheartened. You can do it

 

[JapLance]

OK, I see your problem. You don't play much, and when you do it, you mainly play battleships.

 

I'm sorry to tell you that you will be in this situation in WoWs often, because these events are made to make people play, and having a good selection of ships is vital to be able to reach the conditions for this kind of missions. If your life style doesn't allow you to play much, you better make yourself to the idea that you won't be able to accomplish this missions.

 

EDIT: I hadn't ready your post till the end. I see you decided to quit because of that , which in my opinion is a bit stupid, but... Do you really play an online game just to get free stuff?

[Remix13]

The ARP missions weren't that hard. I finished it last week-end, and I am not unemployed (it is winter, not much things to do outside though).

[Crysantos]

No, I'm not going to say "ther shudnt be stoopid anime ships in muh historical naval battle simulator!"

I'm here to complain at the criteria, duration and the timing.

 

Personally, I'd have loved to do this marathon and get the ships. I like the Ars Nova series a lot, I [used to] like WoWs too.

First, the criteria.

First stage of each: 30 kills on cruisers/destroyers.

Each game lasts 15 mins. Usually with I think 10 people per team and 3 or 4 are cruisers. 

If I'm lucky I can get a kill on a cruiser once every 2 games. I'm not a bad player, I get a decent amount of kills on average and I can do an awful lot of damage to cruisers, but always some sneaky guy will nick the kill. With 10 minutes between games (in port/searching for a game), that's 40 minutes to progress. That equates to roughly 20 hours worth, just to do the first stage, on one missions. Another 20 hours for destroyers.

40 hours of gameplay (which honestly isn't too fun to begin with *cough* fires *cough*) just to do both stage 1 missions. I don't even know the second and third stages of the missions. I couldn't bare to see how tall the mountain is.

 

Second, the duration.

Gave us just 2 months to do this? For both ships? Do you expect us all to be unemployed, full-time chair potatoes? 

This ties in with my third issue; the timing. 

We've just gone passed the holiday season, where everyone is going back to school/work/university(me), and NOW you decide to do this marathon event? 

You couldn't do this during a period where holidays are common? Summer? Easter? You announced it before christmas and at the time I thought "ah perfect something to do in my time off", and you don't begin it until January.

 

This could all be intentional - wanting to limit the number of people who will get the ships, to create exclusivity and entice demand, then release them as 50 euro bundles each. Wouldn't be a surprise for such a greedy corporation.

Whether it is intentional or not, nothing annoys me more than having a carrot dangled in my face and knowing I can't get it because I don't have the time necessary to grab it. So, because of this, I've quit the game. I honestly wasn't finding it too fun anyway, but when I saw the Ars Nova ships announcement, I really got stuck into the game again and was checking the website nearly hourly waiting for them, then it all fell apart when I saw the missions... To make such an intensive set of missions at this time of year... Boggles my mind. Another decision by WG which has left me feeling very alienated. Surely you're aware that a good chunk of your playerbase are students? I can't chose a game over university exams I'm afraid.

If it was about 6 months - I could bare with it, but I lost a lot of faith in WG/WoWs because of this. Too much faith lost to wish to play.

 

Yeah, I'm bitter about it. Call me a whiner if you want. I don't really care about responses because I'm personally done with this.

Just wanted to leave a complaint before I left, as some kind of feedback, as to why you lost a player with these missions.

 

tl;dr

I quit because I wanted the fancy ships, but you made it impossible for me.

 

Well, you don't expect to get two free Tier V and VII ships without investing at least some time and adjusting your gameplay to that, right? I really dislike these "just posting on my way out, this game sucks" threads and we'll see about you quitting this game. If you want a piece of advice... play all classes (CV the least important though) and have a Tier V-VI-ish of each class to play and derp around in. Killing 30 cruisers and destroyers isn't that hard if you pick the right ships - and we have 2 months to do it. I think the 150 planes are much harder to achieve than any of the other missions due to the lack of CVs, but that's it.

 

I just used my Cleveland for most of this - lovely ship and it'll nuke DDs and planes likewise.

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

I think Trigger_Happy_Dad did the Kongo mission in 2 days iirc, Kongo in like a week? I play a lot less games and didn't even have a BB other then low tier premiums or freebee ships ( and for killing cruisers, BB is still the best bet ) but I've been able to do it within a reasonable amount of time as well ( I unlocked Myoko yesterday or the day before ).

 

The effort required was not a small one, but in reach of everyone who wanted it if you'd ask me.

 

But, I have to admit I might not represent the more casual player. I surely am not in my exam time either, so I reckon it's a pretty safe bet I have more free time to spend on the game.

 

did kongo & myoko in 3 -4 days, well prob was first with azell

[ShuggieHamster]

Sorry but the op sounds like he's saying he wanted the ships but couldnt be bothered actually doing what was required and then quits in a huff because its too hard blaming wg. Entitled or what?

 

i lost the first week of the kamikaze due to being out the country. Im scrambling to make pearls with little free time. Not sure i'll make enough but No complaints from me. Its a challenge and i'll play better with something on the line even though I pretty much suck with bbs. 

 

 

[txtspeak]

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[havaduck]

At the moment I think I dont want to complain and rather just take it as it is.

.... but to give some insight, because maybe WG is interested:

 

I usually have problems with at least part of the missions so far and not only the anime ones . Completing them in time or simply at all. The important one so far, Emden, was luckily no problem.

 

I am thinking on getting those ARP Ships in a matter of 2 free Slots  while installing some anti-Anime mod to be able to play them.

 

 

One of those stats-sites tell me I did play 76 games in 22 days and 204 in 50 days (4 and 17 of which ranked). So I did play around ~ 100 games, 3/4 of which cruisers and 1/4 BB - should be no problem then?

 

I mean cruisers kill DDs, other cruisers, light fires and are supposed to fight the sky plague? Also avg. ship kills of 1.09 to 1.14 + avg plane kills of 1.34 to 1.40 should be enough?

 

Yeah .... so far killing cruisers is done.

DDs? murdering them, yes, but getting the actual kill is difficult. I think I have around half of the needed sum.

Fires? gotta get DDs first ...

Planes? Guess what: Those people playing Bogue or other CV either only want plane kills too and esp. dont go near a cruiser. Or if you pick a "target" like a BB you are now faced with the old problem: shitty abysmal AA on anything that isnt a US cruiser starting with Cleveland or a high tier US BB. I have around 40 plane kills so far - dunno if I can get to the damage dealing in time.

 

In total: doubtful if I will get those ships.

[Trigger_Happy_Dad]

I think Trigger_Happy_Dad did the Kongo mission in 2 days iirc, Kongo in like a week? I play a lot less games and didn't even have a BB other then low tier premiums or freebee ships ( and for killing cruisers, BB is still the best bet ) but I've been able to do it within a reasonable amount of time as well ( I unlocked Myoko yesterday or the day before ).

 

The effort required was not a small one, but in reach of everyone who wanted it if you'd ask me.

 

But, I have to admit I might not represent the more casual player. I surely am not in my exam time either, so I reckon it's a pretty safe bet I have more free time to spend on the game.

 

How I did the missions:

 

Kongō  (44 games)

Killing cruisers? ---> Fuso;

Causing Fires? ---> Shokaku;

 Doing Damage? ---> Fuso;

 

Myōkō (90 games)

Killing DDs? ---> Sims;

Causing Fires? ---> Cleveland;

Doing Damage? ---> Fuso;

 

 

 

 

I admit that these missions are a lot harder for "newbies", but imho they are still manageable, after all there's still a month  until the event is over.

 

[BladeRy]

I was thinking its gonna take me a month to do those.

Did Kongo in about 2 days, Myoko took longer due to DD killing. Overall 4-5 days of playing max.

Went with Kongo grind first since 30 cruisers is piss easy with a BB, then jumped to Mogami to kill DDs, good reload and 15 shells ruins their day when they hit, on the way to 30 DDs i did 150 planes along the way. 300 fires was also easy with Mogami, HE all the way + 18.1km range, had a record of 25 fires in one game, average was 10-15, 1m dmg was done in a blink of an eye, and i unlocked Ibuki by doing it.

Piss easy missions.....aside DDs, sometimes i rushed a DD and traded my ship for 1 kill, last 2 kills took me 6 hours, its not possible to have so much bad luck while hunting them down.

 

Wanna know what would be hard? 30 carriers kills, i have that many in 1400 games probably. Hope they dont put that requirement....EVER.

[gr0pah]

With 10 minutes between games (in port/searching for a game), that's 40 minutes to progress

If you spend 10 minutes between games, that's your choice, 'innit?

 

I admit that these missions are a lot harder for "newbies", but imho they are still manageable, after all there's still a month  until the event is over.

I actually don't agree. Anyone who is fine with getting the ships around 25-29th of February should get them without any grinding (or, indeed, skill) what so ever. Just play the correct tiers and the missions will do themselves. People need to stop complaining.

[BadGene616]

Saw an ARP Kongo with an over account wr of 42%... Either a total newbie or someone very bad at the game.

Adapt and okay the ships that maximise your chance of completing the missions?

The planes... Thought they'd be a pain but actually did those while chasing the fires without trying.

The million damage bits are really no problem either.

[Xevious_Red]

Well I have full time job, 2 year old toddler and 3 month old baby. I've done the Kongo and halfway through the myoko, so it's not like it's only jobless hardcore gamers that can achieve this.

 

Started with the Cleveland (as it's tier 6, so eligible for both sets of missions), prioritised cruisers and DD (which as a cruiser was my job anyway). This got me the 30 cruiser kills and about 10 DD. Then swapped onto the bogue with AS. 7 games later I had 150 plane kills.

Then swapped onto using the blys and concentrating on DD (which as a gun DD was my job). This got me the remaining 20 DD kills AND the 1mill damage needed. Now just working on the fires so I'm using the Cleveland/atago as they're both good at starting fires. Need about another 220 so might not get it in time, but I only average 10-15 games a week

[gr0pah]

 Now just working on the fires so I'm using the Cleveland/atago as they're both good at starting fires. Need about another 220 so might not get it in time, but I only average 10-15 games a week

You have one month to get 220 fires.  With 10-15 games a week I can't see you setting less than ~100 fires a week

[Xevious_Red]

You have one month to get 220 fires.  With 10-15 games a week I can't see you setting less than ~100 fires a week

 

I usually get between 5-8 fires a game. Partially because if I see someone travelling broadside I can't turn off the need to swap to AP and citadel them. Then of course there's the odd game where nothing ignites and I get a decent amount of damage, loads of module damage and 1 fire. Working on the basis it will take me 3 weeks to get the fires, which leaves a week to do 1 mill damage which is doable if I use a BB

[gr0pah]

My best fire game in a Cleve was when I was tiered with T8 - which normally suck. I decided to zig-zag att full speed at ~16 km wildly lobbing HE on BBs. Set 19 fires and actually did an impressive amount of damage. 

 

You'll finish this easily mate.