[BTS] Supersubway Beta Tester 112 posts 17,619 battles Report post #1 Posted January 26, 2016 Ehm WG... nice to see asian and chinese DD... but come on. Still no news for the italian fleet (and the french one?). That's a plenty of famous and good ships to add. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OUH] General_Kunde Players 406 posts 6,614 battles Report post #2 Posted January 26, 2016 My god, can you people stop whining "Where are my Italian, Canadian, Swiss, Greek...ships?". It is how it is. Deal with it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Gunship14 Players 850 posts Report post #3 Posted January 26, 2016 You can tell that the majority of the playerbase is excited for 2 reskinned premiums, and 2 premiums that have already been designed and were regular tech tree ships in the past. Just look at the comments at 0.5.3's announcement. My god, can you people stop whining "Where are my Italian, Canadian, Swiss, Greek...ships?". It is how it is. Deal with it. Missing the point entirely. I'm Greek and I'd be pretty mad if, instead of announcing RN or French or more German (even Russian) ships, we got a Greek one. People complaining about the RN made them start developing them faster, and here we are waiting for RN cruisers soonTM, instead of Q4 2016 for the first RN ships. Obviously your "deal with it" strategy wouldn't have achieved a similar result. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_UgMNTuWYVfiQ Players 163 posts Report post #4 Posted January 26, 2016 haven't they already said that there wouln't be an Italian free tech tree this year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OUH] General_Kunde Players 406 posts 6,614 battles Report post #5 Posted January 26, 2016 Missing the point entirely. I'm Greek and I'd be pretty mad if, instead of announcing RN or French or more German (even Russian) ships, we got a Greek one. People complaining about the RN made them start developing them faster, and here we are waiting for RN cruisers soonTM, instead of Q4 2016 for the first RN ships. Obviously your "deal with it" strategy wouldn't have achieved a similar result. You must be new to WG's way to "develop" games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #6 Posted January 26, 2016 http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/22738-frequently-asked-questions-please-read-this-before-making-a-new-topic/ Is this so damn hard to see? The ships they are adding are PREMIUMS. Also they already exist in the damn client, they are just reskinned. They did not have to model them. How hard is it to figure that out?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BTS] Supersubway Beta Tester 112 posts 17,619 battles Report post #7 Posted January 26, 2016 OMG guys calm down... My god, can you people stop whining "Where are my Italian, Canadian, Swiss, Greek...ships?". It is how it is. Deal with it. Just because you dont care doesnt mean that everybody should stop asking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jadefalken Beta Tester, Players 751 posts 10,893 battles Report post #8 Posted January 26, 2016 SORRY but I do not agree with you, seeing new threads every week asking why my nations fleet is not ingame is getting extremely repetitive and trolling. I was born in the UK and I am looking forward to the RN BBs but most of the forumites will tell you how I have responded to the increasingly trollish demand every week. They will come when they are ready and will people please follow WG staffs rules and USE THE *BEEP* SEARCH FUNCTION. Reported this thread for rules violation and spam. Troublemaker_CRO gif shows how the majority of forum active community feel when this garbage springs up every week. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OUH] General_Kunde Players 406 posts 6,614 battles Report post #9 Posted January 26, 2016 Just because you dont care doesnt mean that everybody should stop asking. If things got posted 500 billion times it's not only me who doesn't care... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #10 Posted January 26, 2016 Supersubway, I am a fellow Italian and I am too eager to see Italian ships in the game. However, the others have a point in saying that this thread is basically pointless. By using the search function, one can see for himself if any new information about upcoming tech trees has been released. But making a new topic to ask if there are any news is not going to make it any faster, and will only aggravate people. I know it's hard, but be patient; it'll be worth it in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDEAL] Pastaiolo Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester 669 posts 2,513 battles Report post #11 Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) It's not like releasing those 4 prem ships, which i remind you were mostly done before, is going to affect anything development wise. I would love to see the italian navy myself, both because i am italian and those ships were just awesome, but does it mean i will get pissed off because it's not here yet? Nope. Learn to have fun with what you have, not complain about what you don't have *yet* Edited January 26, 2016 by Pastaiolo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BTS] Supersubway Beta Tester 112 posts 17,619 battles Report post #12 Posted January 26, 2016 I know all of this. But I didnt know until TODAY that there was a chinese ship or asian ship coming. BEFORE Italian and French ones. Probably I was the only one not knowing it. Or maybe not. Now, I can survive of course. Anyway I am going to raise a hand since something unexpected happened (to me at least). Easy. If this pisses you off, SORRY. Even if you are born in the UK and you are waiting as well. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Gunship14 Players 850 posts Report post #13 Posted January 26, 2016 If WG keeps releasing premiums for 6 more months, reskinned too, and doesn't release new trees because "well you know we ARE releasing new content so why do you complain?", we should all be grateful. It's less about a particular nation/ship being more important than another, and more about "this adds NOTHING of value to the game, and is only made to cash in on people from various nationalities". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatt Players 509 posts Report post #14 Posted January 27, 2016 My god, can you people stop whining "Where are my Italian, Canadian, Swiss, Greek...ships?". It is how it is. Deal with it. Anyway, bring fantasy and reskinned ships, instead of real ones, and players will keep whining and moaning. With all the time wasted in absurd camos, ports, fantasy and reskinned ships the staff could have done a Hood, a french BB, a Roma and onlygodknowswhat. Simple as that. Even a cheerleader should understand it. A swiss tank in WoT and panasian ships in WoWS? Dont make me laugh, I go back playing my Centauro and Ariete tanks elsewhere LOL. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #15 Posted January 27, 2016 Anyway, bring fantasy and reskinned ships, instead of real ones, and players will keep whining and moaning. With all the time wasted in absurd camos, ports, fantasy and reskinned ships the staff could have done a Hood, a french BB, a Roma and onlygodknowswhat. Simple as that. Even a cheerleader should understand it. You obviously don't, because releasing new content besides ships is better than just new ships every month. But I do not see the point of elaborating that to you since you probably wouldn't understand... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatt Players 509 posts Report post #16 Posted January 27, 2016 You obviously don't, because releasing new content besides ships is better than just new ships every month. But I do not see the point of elaborating that to you since you probably wouldn't understand... Yeah sure, since I'm not wearing any cheerleader suit. P.S.: you probably dont understand how good would be for the game (money and numebers of game wise) announcing a Premium Tier VIII Hood. Do you? P.P.S: I forgot the Arpeggio stuff LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #17 Posted January 27, 2016 Yeah sure, since I'm not wearing any cheerleader suit. P.S.: you probably dont understand how good would be for the game (money and numebers of game wise) announcing a Premium Tier VIII Hood. Do you? P.P.S: I forgot the Arpeggio stuff LOL Don't you think that a company who makes millions (or even billions) has a certain 1-2-3 year plan for the game? Why would they announce the Hood now? Why would they even make it a premium ship? Tell me more about your marketing knowledge... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red_eye1980 Players 387 posts 3,102 battles Report post #18 Posted January 27, 2016 I just want a brand new ,well balanced to the existing, tree to grind with unique/distinct characteristics/playstyle, till about tier 6-7. Dont care if they re from mars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatt Players 509 posts Report post #19 Posted January 27, 2016 Don't you think that a company who makes millions (or even billions) has a certain 1-2-3 year plan for the game? Why would they announce the Hood now? Why would they even make it a premium ship? Tell me more about your marketing knowledge... We both are not marketing geniuses obviously. However, judging from my (and most of the friends I dragged in WoWS) actual interest things are not going so well. This is not Wot and is not managed as WoT. So, why lose time with Arpeggio stuff, absurd camos, useless ports, late 1950 ships, panasian fantasy ships and other useless stuff in the first year, probably the most important for a game like this one? I mean, while RN ships are still missing, french/italian ships are still missing, german BB are still missing. And dont tell me it takes three months to make a warship when I see a panasian tech tree popping out of the blue. Naval games, slow and team oriented as they are, in my opinion attract very dedicated players. Players fascinated by warships since they are 8 years old. Players who pay A LOT of attention to how the fleets (tech trees, that is) are made and released. So, in my opinion, a Hood or a german pocket battleship, perhaps Premium, would attract much more players than all the useless stuff I'm seeing. A "You can recreate the Hood vs Bismark-class clash!" advertising (even if only in the game front page) would be so effective both for the player base and for new players. But ehy, I'm not a marketing genius. So, keep bringing russian and other asian fantasy ships and delay to end 2016 or 2017 the Royal Navy and or the german battleships and lets see how successful will be the game in NA and EU. The whole Tirpitz thing should have teached a lot of things to WoWS marketing geniuses. Real famous warships, Premium or not. Thats what WoWS needs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #20 Posted January 27, 2016 We both are not marketing geniuses obviously. However, judging from my (and most of the friends I dragged in WoWS) actual interest things are not going so well. This is not Wot and is not managed as WoT. So, why lose time with Arpeggio stuff, absurd camos, useless ports, late 1950 ships, panasian fantasy ships and other useless stuff in the first year, probably the most important for a game like this one? I mean, while RN ships are still missing, french/italian ships are still missing, german BB are still missing. And dont tell me it takes three months to make a warship when I see a panasian tech tree popping out of the blue. Naval games, slow and team oriented as they are, in my opinion attract very dedicated players. Players fascinated by warships since they are 8 years old. Players who pay A LOT of attention to how the fleets (tech trees, that is) are made and released. So, in my opinion, a Hood or a german pocket battleship, perhaps Premium, would attract much more players than all the useless stuff I'm seeing. A "You can recreate the Hood vs Bismark-class clash!" advertising (even if only in the game front page) would be so effective both for the player base and for new players. But ehy, I'm not a marketing genius. So, keep bringing russian and other asian fantasy ships and delay to end 2016 or 2017 the Royal Navy and or the german battleships and lets see how successful will be the game in NA and EU. The whole Tirpitz thing should have teached a lot of things to WoWS marketing geniuses. Real famous warships, Premium or not. Thats what WoWS needs. Those panasian are just models that are already in game with different camo, first of all. Same goes for arpeggio ships. Also, you do realize that the two biggest communities are the Russian and the German? It is normal that those ships are released first. It is much different with ships than with tanks since every navy had a few "legendary" ships while that was not the case with tanks. It is obvious you have not played WoT since the start because it was a damn mess even almost 2 years after it went into OBT. WoWs is much more organized, much more events than it was in WoT in the beginning. I'm just guessing you are one of those players that whine about the lack of ships while their highest tier is 5 or something like that. There were much less ships than tanks and it is normal that new lines are released slower than in tanks, also it takes months to model just a single ship from scratch. Also, if you just tried to inform yourself a bit before posting something like this, you would have known that RN CAs are the next line to be released, either in Q1 or Q2 of 2016. One more thing. It makes no damn sense to release all the content in the first year of a f2p game. We saw the difference in active players on the release of new lines (RU DDs and GER CAs) and a month after it. Same would happen if all the content was released in the first year (like you want it). The game would last 1 or maybe 2 more years and that was it. This way players get to grind other lines while they are waiting for their favored one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatt Players 509 posts Report post #21 Posted January 27, 2016 I'm just guessing you are one of those players that whine about the lack of ships while their highest tier is 5 or something like that. Dont judge posters from their scores and/or average playing Tier. It is so dumb. BTW, in Q2 2016 a lot of UK and GE players will be tired of waiting for their ships. As I, as an italian player (and my friends), wont probably wait 2 years for a single italian ship like a Vittorio Veneto, Zara or Bolzano class. All this while seeing fantasy ships and Arpeggio stuff sailing up and down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #22 Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Dont judge posters from their scores and/or average playing Tier. It is so dumb. BTW, in Q2 2016 a lot of UK and GE players will be tired of waiting for their ships. As I, as an italian player (and my friends), wont probably wait 2 years for a single italian ship like a Vittorio Veneto, Zara or Bolzano class warship. All this while seeing fantasy ships sailing up and down. And you think Italy had enough BBs/CAs/DDs to fill the whole tree? That is so hypocritic of you. Then I could say; "I refuse to play until a single Croatian ship is in game, I don't care, our fantasy ships are better than yours"! And no, it is not dumb. A player that has tier 5 as a highest tier has more than 80% of the content to research still, asking for new ships then is just selfish. EDIT: How do you know they will be tired? I also would really love to see German BBs/DDs, RN BBs/DDs/CAs, but that doesn't stop me from playing as I am enjoying the current content available. It amazes me how some people can think like that (my country isn't in game - I won't play). Edited January 27, 2016 by Troublemaker_CRO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatt Players 509 posts Report post #23 Posted January 27, 2016 And you think Italy had enough BBs/CAs/DDs to fill the whole tree? That is so hypocritic of you. Then I could say; "I refuse to play until a single Croatian ship is in game, I don't care, our fantasy ships are better than yours"! And no, it is not dumb. A player that has tier 5 as a highest tier has more than 80% of the content to research still, asking for new ships then is just selfish. EDIT: How do you know they will be tired? I also would really love to see German BBs/DDs, RN BBs/DDs/CAs, but that doesn't stop me from playing as I am enjoying the current content available. It amazes me how some people can think like that (my country isn't in game - I won't play). Oh MY, it is so idiotic of you thinking I'm not playing Tier VIII and X. It is so dumb of you not thinking that you can catch a lot of UK/french/italian players with a single warship even if no tech tree exhists (do it Premium or attach it to another tree: you can do it with an italian CA to the german tree, for example). You self appointed old hand, always present in the forum spitting and judging on most posts from your above average WR and high Tier ships, are so pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #24 Posted January 27, 2016 Oh MY, it is so idiotic of you thinking I'm not playing Tier VIII and X. It is so dumb of you not thinking that you can catch a lot of UK/french/italian players with a single warship even if no tech tree exhists (do it Premium or attach it to another tree: you can do it with an italian CA to the german tree, for example). And who can guarantee that? Normally they release a premium ship (from the nation) a few months before that nation comes out. So you will get to play with your Italian/French ships probably within a year. I do not not see a problem with that since players normally stick to MMO f2p games for a longer time. So why would they release French/Italian navy if they are currently working on RN (CAs confirmed, don't know about other lines) GER BBs (confirmed) and if I recall correctly RU BBs/CAs as well are planned for this year. As said previously, it takes MONTHS to model just one ship and they obviously do not have enough people to work on 50-60-70 or more ships at the same time, there isn't even a need for that. You self appointed old hand, always present in the forum spitting and judging on most posts from your above average WR and high Tier ships, are so pathetic. I only assumed that from your posts. Normally people with really low count battles ask for stuff that you have asked for. I never tried to imply that I was "better" than you in any way. All I do is compare my opinion for the current/new content (considering how much ships/battles I have) and I still do not feel this game is lacking content when I compare it to WoT when it was at this stage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatt Players 509 posts Report post #25 Posted January 27, 2016 Understood, I'm having a rough day. I've been surely out of line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites