Paper, useless catapult fighter (Kuma)

[Lolwut]

Used catapult fighters for the first time on my Kuma.

 

Full squadron of torps from a Langley approaches - no enemy ships or fighters nearby.

My fighter engages and dies after literally 2 seconds. I mean it, two seconds, it's not an exaggeration.

It didn't manage to do anything during that time, of course.

 

WTF?

[Wolfenbane]

Try the T4 Premium Nico,fine looking BB but every time you get into a MM with CVs in it,you'll always get that,"Christ,not me again." moment,every time enemy aircraft approach.I'd love any sort of aircraft on that ship even if it was useless,at least i'd get a minutes peace.

[Lolwut]

Try the T4 Premium Nico,fine looking BB but every time you get into a MM with CVs in it,you'll always get that,"Christ,not me again." moment,every time enemy aircraft approach.I'd love any sort of aircraft on that ship even if it was useless,at least i'd get a minutes peace.

 

Well I have the Arkansas xD 

[MrConway]

Try the T4 Premium Nico,fine looking BB but every time you get into a MM with CVs in it,you'll always get that,"Christ,not me again." moment,every time enemy aircraft approach.I'd love any sort of aircraft on that ship even if it was useless,at least i'd get a minutes peace.

 

I know how you feel, he has a fighter, we have Larry with his 9mm pistol...

[mtm78]

 

I know how you feel, he has a fighter, we have Larry with his 9mm pistol...

 

And yet, my Imperator is by far my 'bestest' ship only rivaled in win rate by Arkansas Beta. 

 

The fact that is has no AAA ( I don't count 4x76mm as AAA, they can't shoot down a bird let alone a bomber ) doesn't matter much, unless you're up against tier V or VI carriers ( especially IJN ). The amount of auto dropping carriers at those tiers is just to high to be really afraid. 

 

Used catapult fighters for the first time on my Kuma.

 

Full squadron of torps from a Langley approaches - no enemy ships or fighters nearby.

My fighter engages and dies after literally 2 seconds. I mean it, two seconds, it's not an exaggeration.

It didn't manage to do anything during that time, of course.

 

WTF?

 

Mh, roll of the dice, didn't even know langley TB's had rear gunners but meh, don't tell me you actually feared a TB drop in a Kuma? Not like you're a very agile CL which can evade the drop with ease at most eating a single torp.

[Lolwut]

 

And yet, my Imperator is by far my 'bestest' ship only rivaled in win rate by Arkansas Beta. 

 

The fact that is has no AAA ( I don't count 4x76mm as AAA, they can't shoot down a bird let alone a bomber ) doesn't matter much, unless you're up against tier V or VI carriers ( especially IJN ). The amount of auto dropping carriers at those tiers is just to high to be really afraid. 

 

 

Mh, roll of the dice, didn't even know langley TB's had rear gunners but meh, don't tell me you actually feared a TB drop in a Kuma? Not like you're a very agile CL which can evade the drop with ease at most eating a single torp.

 

Yea, I was just trying to support a nearby BB that was targeted by those torp planes.

[Citadel_HIT]

Also i know what you mean exactly.

All catapult started planes,like hunters or spotters are always useless crap in this game,they was always useless,they are always useless and im really sure they will be always useless in this game,this catapult started stuff is only a litle joke from wg to make the player think he has any tiny litle protection from this plane,but in reality all they do is flying around,and each time an enemy plane is near him your plane is dead and there is nothing you can do about.

And im NOT talking about your litle plane was shot down from a sqad of 6 US or 4 Jap hunters from a cv,no this is not what im talking about,your catapult started plane can is and will always be killed from ANY enemy plane in 2-3seconds,no matter of enemy bomber sqad,hunter or only a spotter,WG desited catapult planes should not help the player,all it does is make the player think & feel he has some help from his plane,but fact is its useless [edited],thats why i dont start my planes again like cleveland plane is such a joke,a minekaze with absolut 0 AA can shoot down my plane in 7 seconds,a tier4 jap cv bomber sqad shot my plane down in under 4 seconds.

Now think about that what wg did with this catapult fake planes!

[T0byJug]

Used catapult fighters for the first time on my Kuma.

 

Full squadron of torps from a Langley approaches - no enemy ships or fighters nearby.

My fighter engages and dies after literally 2 seconds. I mean it, two seconds, it's not an exaggeration.

It didn't manage to do anything during that time, of course.

 

WTF?

I'm a little confused!!! you don't get aircraft on Cruisers till tier 6 (BBs tier 5) Kuma is a tier 4 do  you mean AOBA?

 

when you do get the fighters i find them very efective

[gr0pah]

I'm a little confused!!! you don't get aircraft on Cruisers till tier 6 (BBs tier 5) Kuma is a tier 4 do  you mean AOBA?

 

when you do get the fighters i find them very efective

 

You are quite mistaken. Both Omaha (T5) and Kuma (T4) get aircraft.

[T0byJug]

 

You are quite mistaken. Both Omaha (T5) and Kuma (T4) get aircraft.

 

yep my mistake Just spent 500k to check!! LOL

 

dont get why we cant look at consumables adn upgrades without buying ship..at least with tanks there is a tablet/phone app that you can look. but yet to find anything for ships..

 

Paid for this

http://gamemodels3d.com/worldofwarships

and its a great sight but no upgrades and consumables

[Picard12]

Also i know what you mean exactly.

All catapult started planes,like hunters or spotters are always useless crap in this game,they was always useless,they are always useless and im really sure they will be always useless in this game,this catapult started stuff is only a litle joke from wg to make the player think he has any tiny litle protection from this plane,but in reality all they do is flying around,and each time an enemy plane is near him your plane is dead and there is nothing you can do about.

And im NOT talking about your litle plane was shot down from a sqad of 6 US or 4 Jap hunters from a cv,no this is not what im talking about,your catapult started plane can is and will always be killed from ANY enemy plane in 2-3seconds,no matter of enemy bomber sqad,hunter or only a spotter,WG desited catapult planes should not help the player,all it does is make the player think & feel he has some help from his plane,but fact is its useless [edited],thats why i dont start my planes again like cleveland plane is such a joke,a minekaze with absolut 0 AA can shoot down my plane in 7 seconds,a tier4 jap cv bomber sqad shot my plane down in under 4 seconds.

Now think about that what wg did with this catapult fake planes!

 

And you know that after 10 normal games and... holy crap, 3500 Coop games. How...?!? Well, whatever.

 

The point about catapult fighters has never been shooting down the approaching bombers, but rather panicking them so that they miss. And they do that quite nicely at higher tiers. In no way they are useless.

[Brett50]

I have noticed that it's once again up to RNG, i've had my catapult fighter harrass enemy TB  squadrons from carriers 2 tiers higher than me for ages and do their job, then I've had my catapult fighter shot down by dive bombers from a carrier a tier lower than me in about 2 seconds, even though they have basically no AA damage on the supposed fighters it would be nice if they were at least a bit more surviveable.

[Citadel_HIT]

 

And you know that after 10 normal games and... holy crap, 3500 Coop games. How...?!? Well, whatever.

 

The point about catapult fighters has never been shooting down the approaching bombers, but rather panicking them so that they miss. And they do that quite nicely at higher tiers. In no way they are useless.

 

Of course they are,and when you are telling other things here,you lie & might get paid from wg to tell that lie to humans,so your post doesnt count anyway.

they dont have any hp for the classes they play,like the hp of the fighter from cleveland is something of 150,a spotterplane only armed with bow and arrow can shot down that plan with only 2 shots!

langley comes with 1 bomber sqad,my plane trys to atack but is dead in under 4seconds,and this planes are 2 clases lower than my fighter is.

please try to stay on the truth my son,lie not help anyone.

Thanx

[Lolwut]

I have noticed that it's once again up to RNG, i've had my catapult fighter harrass enemy TB  squadrons from carriers 2 tiers higher than me for ages and do their job, then I've had my catapult fighter shot down by dive bombers from a carrier a tier lower than me in about 2 seconds, even though they have basically no AA damage on the supposed fighters it would be nice if they were at least a bit more surviveable.

 

That must be it, I don't understand who thought this crazy amount of RNG would be acceptable.

[Picard12]

 

Of course they are,and when you are telling other things here,you lie & might get paid from wg to tell that lie to humans,so your post doesnt count anyway.

they dont have any hp for the classes they play,like the hp of the fighter from cleveland is something of 150,a spotterplane only armed with bow and arrow can shot down that plan with only 2 shots!

langley comes with 1 bomber sqad,my plane trys to atack but is dead in under 4seconds,and this planes are 2 clases lower than my fighter is.

please try to stay on the truth my son,lie not help anyone.

Thanx

 

If only I were paid by WG...

But really, so you're one of those tinfoil-hat-people? Well, your decision, but that does not invalidate my point. I simply cannot confirm that catapult fighters always die instantly to bomber squads. Sure, very rarely that happens, but usually it stays alive long enough to panik them into dropping imprecisely.

Also, about your example, when you face Langley bombers your Cleveland AA will not have any problem deleting them before they even get to drop, I do not know what your problem would be with that.

[Picard12]

 

That must be it, I don't understand who thought this crazy amount of RNG would be acceptable.

 

Probably the person who wanted this to be a warship-game? Be happy that it is not as random as real warship battles were, sizes were increased, hit chances improved, etc. They still tried to at least somewhat accurately make it feel like a real fight between ships, so it has to be at least a bit random. I have very little problem with how it is implemented right now.

[mtm78]

 

Of course they are,and when you are telling other things here,you lie & might get paid from wg to tell that lie to humans,so your post doesnt count anyway.

they dont have any hp for the classes they play,like the hp of the fighter from cleveland is something of 150,a spotterplane only armed with bow and arrow can shot down that plan with only 2 shots!

langley comes with 1 bomber sqad,my plane trys to atack but is dead in under 4seconds,and this planes are 2 clases lower than my fighter is.

please try to stay on the truth my son,lie not help anyone.

Thanx

 

[gr0pah]

langley comes with 1 bomber sqad,my plane trys to atack but is dead in under 4seconds,and this planes are 2 clases lower than my fighter is.

 

Kuma T4, Langley T4, no?

[Agantas]

Spotter planes are not useless. They increase your shooting range and give nice aerial view, from which you can perceive their direction of motion better and aim your shots accordingly. Also, they help you aim and shoot at enemies that are located behind an island.

[Lolwut]

 

Probably the person who wanted this to be a warship-game? Be happy that it is not as random as real warship battles were, sizes were increased, hit chances improved, etc. They still tried to at least somewhat accurately make it feel like a real fight between ships, so it has to be at least a bit random. I have very little problem with how it is implemented right now.

 

I'm talking about the catapult fighter that, apparently, can either be oneshot after 2 seconds behind torp planes or hang around for 2 minutes

[Lolwut]

Spotter planes are not useless. They increase your shooting range and give nice aerial view, from which you can perceive their direction of motion better and aim your shots accordingly. Also, they help you aim and shoot at enemies that are located behind an island.

 

We're talking about the fighter plane... sigh...

[WarJagger]

If the carrier had the commander skill that gives all bombers backgunners it would have been easy for them to shoot down your catapult fighter.

[gr0pah]

If the carrier had the commander skill that gives all bombers backgunners it would have been easy for them to shoot down your catapult fighter.

 

That's not what the skill does...

[Drigtol]

I'm a little confused!!! you don't get aircraft on Cruisers till tier 6 (BBs tier 5) Kuma is a tier 4 do  you mean AOBA?

 

when you do get the fighters i find them very efective

 

You do on a "Kuma"

[gr0pah]

 

You do on a "Kuma"

 

Maybe read the post directly after the one you replied to?