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Disappointed with my new Japanese battleship

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So i was so excited when i eventually unlocked my first battleship, little did i know how frustrating it would be, ive done about 8 matches with it so far and most of them i dont even get a shot off before the game is over, my destroyer that was an equal level could fire further, disappointed with it so far, just hope it improves alittle :( 

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playing the t3 battleships is hard, they are slow and have a short range.

It will be better with upcoming tiers.

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I know your pain the low end BB blow hard but they do get better.

Try playing co-op to get the hang of it. Try to no short range or stand off they at there best mid range and they do need cover as well.

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Kawachi? It's well known as the worst ship in the game. Have patience. Kongo (and above) are all worth it.

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The tier 3 BB's are mostly bad ( the South Carolina is arguably better, but still pretty poor). It gets a lot better with the tier 4 Myogi, and much better at tier 5 and excellent at tier 6, so it is well worth sticking with it. Also you might want to try out fighting players instead of bots. You get 4 more people to fight against and you get more rewards so you research it quicker.

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Kawachi? It's well known as the worst ship in the game. Have patience. Kongo (and above) are all worth it.

 

It's better than the Mikasa, really the Kawachi isn't even that bad
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The tier 3 BB's are mostly bad ( the South Carolina is arguably better, but still pretty poor). It gets a lot better with the tier 4 Myogi, and much better at tier 5 and excellent at tier 6, so it is well worth sticking with it. Also you might want to try out fighting players instead of bots. You get 4 more people to fight against and you get more rewards so you research it quicker.

 

Ahh, didnt realize this, thanks 

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BBs are not invulnerable though generally they have great armour.

They have great guns but at lower tiers especially they have pretty bad dispersion (generalisation, I know!!)

So also manage your expectations, at low tiers they are ponderously slow and a bit painful to play. 

 

Myogi is a big step forward, but kongou is where is gets really good.

 

Stick with it!

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The battleship concept has a few flaws on the lower tiers. Mainly because you bring big guns to unarmored low tier enemys. That does not work out most of the time and you get a lot of overpenetration.

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Myogi is even worse Kongo is better

 

I liked the Myogi, its fast for its tier and when a DD chase you drive away from him and shoot him with the 2 aft turrets, much fun!

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yeah well Myogi is a bit hit-and-miss - some really like her (me mostly included), some really hate her (and I can see why they do). But from Kongo all through the line every ship is at least very good, and most of them are plain brilliant. One little caveat though, that applies to Japanese Battleships more than to any other line I think: The ships are rather bad when you first buy them, but shine all the more brightly with all upgrades purchased. Prime example is Fuso - with stock hull, she gets outranged by everything at her tier that isn't a Destoyer, which makes her pretty painful to play, but she turns into an absolute monster when fully upgraded. So as a general rule of thumb, don't spend free XP to unlock the next ship in the line faster, as it will generally be worse than its predecessor at first, but save and use as much free XP as you can to get upgrades for your newly acquired shiny - that will save you a lot of frustration.

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So i was so excited when i eventually unlocked my first battleship, little did i know how frustrating it would be, ive done about 8 matches with it so far and most of them i dont even get a shot off before the game is over, my destroyer that was an equal level could fire further, disappointed with it so far, just hope it improves alittle :( 

 

It's a grind, but at Tier V+ BBs get really good :)

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Im really struggling to do the same damage in a battle as a Destroyer, i still think these battle ships are heavily under-powered, the destroyers fire volleys alot more frequent and are more accurate than battleships, most of my shots land short or go flying past, from the same volley ?, and destroyers have the added bonus of using torps, there quicker and more maneuverable, im getting outgunned by destroyers,

 

Yes, ive still alot to learn about the tactics of the game, but very familiar with WOT and can see the resemblance, but im lucky if i can get off the bottom of the score board in my battle ship, but destroyers i was always close to the top

 

Definitely needs some balancing here with battleships, yes i read it gets better, but this is enough to put anyone off the game 

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Could be 2 things: 1 BB's aren't your cup of coffee and 2: you need to practise. I see on your profile you've almost only have played cruisers. Cruisers (generalized speaking) are ships who have some trades of al the others. BB's are more specialized. They're slow, reload slow but can hit very hard. In your St Louis kid cruisers you could slowly beat ships to the ground. In BB's it's usually done in 1 or 2 salvo's. The trick is to never get impatient! Aim carefully and wait for the optimal moment. You can't just go out and keep the left mouse button clicked and machinegun them down.

My advice: keep practiing on the co-ops for a while before hitting the randoms.

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Could be 2 things: 1 BB's aren't your cup of coffee and 2: you need to practise. I see on your profile you've almost only have played cruisers. Cruisers (generalized speaking) are ships who have some trades of al the others. BB's are more specialized. They're slow, reload slow but can hit very hard. In your St Louis kid cruisers you could slowly beat ships to the ground. In BB's it's usually done in 1 or 2 salvo's. The trick is to never get impatient! Aim carefully and wait for the optimal moment. You can't just go out and keep the left mouse button clicked and machinegun them down.

My advice: keep practiing on the co-ops for a while before hitting the randoms.

 

This is exactly what im doing, my shots are leading enough to hit, i aim half way up the hull, then one shot lands short while the other goes flailing past, not sure why my shots are so far off ??

 

My last battle was me and a destroyer, he was about 4000m away, side on to me, i sent a barrage to him and every shot missed, some too shot some went flailing past? like WTF he must have being pissing himself at me,

now bearing in mind ive being gaming for over 20 years<<<<theirs nothing wrong with my aiming......

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Myogi is even worse Kongo is better

 

Wut? Myogi is basically a Kongo minus a gun turret.

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This is exactly what im doing, my shots are leading enough to hit, i aim half way up the hull, then one shot lands short while the other goes flailing past, not sure why my shots are so far off ??

 

My last battle was me and a destroyer, he was about 4000m away, side on to me, i sent a barrage to him and every shot missed, some too shot some went flailing past? like WTF he must have being pissing himself at me,

now bearing in mind ive being gaming for over 20 years<<<<theirs nothing wrong with my aiming......

 

Your only BB is the Kawachi.  It's inaccurate. It's awful.

 

There are two ways to mitigate the inaccuracy.  

1) Accept it.  You won't hit much but when you do hit, you'll hit pretty hard.

2) Stop firing at max range and try to move closer.  It's slow and it turns like a brick, but it'll drastically reduce the dispersion.

 

You've done 30ish battles in co op, and 5 in randoms.

Randoms are always harder, players aren't bots.

 

Stick with it. Adjust your play style to the situation and your ship.  You'll get there - the myogi is a drastic improvement, but the kongou is where it gets much more interesting.

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Your only BB is the Kawachi.  It's inaccurate. It's awful.

 

There are two ways to mitigate the inaccuracy.  

1) Accept it.  You won't hit much but when you do hit, you'll hit pretty hard.

2) Stop firing at max range and try to move closer.  It's slow and it turns like a brick, but it'll drastically reduce the dispersion.

 

You've done 30ish battles in co op, and 5 in randoms.

Randoms are always harder, players aren't bots.

 

Stick with it. Adjust your play style to the situation and your ship.  You'll get there - the myogi is a drastic improvement, but the kongou is where it gets much more interesting.

 

Thanks, will stick with it cause i do love battleships over other ships in RL, who gets to Cpt a battleship nowadays ?? lol

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Kawachi and Myogi suck, but starting with Kongo the IJN BB line becomes nonstop glory.

 

Kongo flies around at breakneck speeds, Fuso is a mobile firing squad, Nagato is basically the purest battleship, with basically no major drawbacks, Amagi is a horrifying fusion of Fuso and Kongo, Izumo is squishy from the side, but a hypertank from the front, and Yamato is...Yamato.

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Just unlocked the Kongo now. Hated the Kawachi grind but i quite like playing the Myogi, fully upgraded and top tier it can be a beast.

 

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If you liked Myogi, Kongo and onwards is going to be a wet dream.

 

Just remember, BBs get drastically better with their B hulls. I don't think Kongo was so bad at first, but Fuso through Izumo are all terrible stock, then amazing. 

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