Confederate requirements too steep?

[KillSlim]

I've got just over 300 battles and there is only 1 award I've not got yet, which is Confederate. 

 

Confederate

"Damage at least 6 enemy ships. Damage caused to each ship must exceed 20% of her normal HP."

 

I tend to focus fire on individual targets that are already taking shots from friendlies, are marked targets, or on low health. Confederate is difficult for carriers in particular due to their air groups taking a while to get to the target, and then needing to go all the way back to base (Low tier carriers may only have 1 TB and 1 DB squad). I don't like dealing damage to as many ships as possible for the sake of it, it's ineffective compared to focus firing.

 

Am I just rubbish at this game or is anyone else also sharing my concern?

[gbgroger]

Im sorry mate, your a bit rubbish. Confederate is quite easy to get but its hard to predict sometimes. I used to get it 1-3 times a day when I played very actively.

 

I would add WG made a devious change with shifting "Xp flag +50%" from conf to krakken which I only think they did to sell more flags and premium time. Conf is much easier to get than krakken, for sure!

[RUMIRUMI]

I disagree.

Confederate is one of the easiest achievements to get in my opinion, if i pick my st.louis/murmansk/cleveland i will get it in 1 out of 5 games.

[gr0pah]

Sorry, but calling someone "rubbish" because they have a hard time getting Confederate smacks of elitism. And yes OP, it's not a likely achievement in a CV in my experience just because - as you say - a carrier often focus a specific ship down. 

 

And yes, in a Cleve/OPmansk/St Louis it's not super hard to HE-spam your way to a Confederate.

[Kurbain]

I've got just over 300 battles and there is only 1 award I've not got yet, which is Confederate. 

 

Confederate

"Damage at least 6 enemy ships. Damage caused to each ship must exceed 20% of her normal HP."

 

I tend to focus fire on individual targets that are already taking shots from friendlies, are marked targets, or on low health. Confederate is difficult for carriers in particular due to their air groups taking a while to get to the target, and then needing to go all the way back to base (Low tier carriers may only have 1 TB and 1 DB squad). I don't like dealing damage to as many ships as possible for the sake of it, it's ineffective compared to focus firing.

 

Am I just rubbish at this game or is anyone else also sharing my concern?

 

If you are playing carriers it is definitely a difficult achievement to get. You probably won't even have time for 6 attack runs in a match.

 

Should you play one of the other 3 classes it is one of the easier achievements to receive, though. I get it quite often since I do not focus on single targets. I always shoot at whichever target happens to be the most vulnerable.

[gbgroger]

Well if you play a couple of months, even a year. Its not a problem getting lots of conf. Call me elitist but that wont change the fact that I and my buddies do get it more than 1 per 300 games, which he asks about since those are his stats at the moment. I wont feel sorry that I know this game well.

[LilJumpa]

I'm a bit confused.

You actually have 8 Confederates in your 300 games so it's not the one you haven't achived yet

What you are missing is:

Close Quarters Expert - need good Secondaries and fires from them to get that

Solo Warrior - very situational

Kraken - 5 kills

Witherer - HE 4 the win

 

Guess you mean the Kraken. 

On a Sidenote: You are on your way to get a lot better than Mr. "I call u rubbish and get 1-3 Confederates/day"

 

Edit: Die Hard is missing too - you have to ram at best a DD for that

[gbgroger]

I have played for about a year now, not soo active currently. The achievements which are very rare for me is: double kill and close quarter expert. To get those you have to be very lucky and situational, I guess once every thousand games.

[gr0pah]

I have played for about a year now, not soo active currently. The achievements which are very rare for me is: double kill and close quarter expert. To get those you have to be very lucky and situational, I guess once every thousand games.

 

CQE is not that hard to get in (IJN especially) BBs I hear. Double kills are quite possible in DDs. The hardest one without a doubt is probably Solo Warrior. 

[Myrmix]

I'm more concerned with the Kraken... 5 kills are rare, even on low tier and also supports withholding fire.

Maybe they don't want non-premium-people to try to adjust their xp-progress too easy to premium-conditions.

Oh..and please fix clear sky.

[Spellfire40]

89 confed in 2321 battles sounds about right. Not every ship can arceive it you have to live with it. Kraken is pure luck you cant play for it since you have no controll over who gehts the last killing hit. I dont cont that as an arceivement.

[WarJagger]

If i have a good game in my Murmansk, Cleveland or Aoba I can get Confederate once in a while. I just think using a carrier will make it very hard to earn it.

 

[Kamikazesushi]

I agree that confederate is not easy to get. The best for it are games where ships are getting a lot in and out of vision (hiding behind islands) so you change targets a lot. Or games when you get kraken as well.

 

But hardest is for me Die hard....I have just 2, which is less than krakens. I also remember that 2 times I gave someone die hard by raming them intentionaly in a dd. I missed torps and was 2 km from a cruiser who takes you out in 3 salvos......so I made myself a living torpedo. I thought it was good thing because at least I did some dmg (really like a torpedo) and felt the unfairness when enemy got die hard. I had to get my die hards the real die-hard way, when a dd goes banzai and you aim at him and wait for him to show broadside....he waits for you shoot so he can turn....and if both players are good and with good nerves it makes a die hard + good feeling

[Kenjiro_]

I think requirements are fine. But nerfing the reward flag was lame. It is a hard achievement to get and what we get it for now just don't cut it....

[T0byJug]

I'm more concerned with the Kraken... 5 kills are rare, even on low tier and also supports withholding fire.

Maybe they don't want non-premium-people to try to adjust their xp-progress too easy to premium-conditions.

Oh..and please fix clear sky.

 

It was to easy to get the +50% flags before!  The Kraken is hard at the moment and hope it may change a bit (though i got it 2 games in a row on my Phoenix in the last days). I only use this flag for the grind to upgrade never for the grind to next ship but i currently have over 260 of these flags 

[allufewig]

In lowtier-carriers "Confederate" is probably quite an achievement. In other classes and in carriers with lots of squads not so much. You get it once in a while by just driving around, shooting ships. In a good game, basically.

[EsaTuunanen]

I'm more concerned with the Kraken... 5 kills are rare, even on low tier and also supports withholding fire.

Withholding from firing is exactly the wrong thing to do with any faster reloading weapon.

Only torps and BB guns can benefit from little waiting.

Looking for other torpedo target if first one constantly maneuvers and in BB shooting other target if first target is angling while there's other showing broadside.

With other weapons the more you learn to do constant damage to enemy team the better chances you have for achievements.

 

[Myrmix]

 

It was to easy to get the +50% flags before!  The Kraken is hard at the moment and hope it may change a bit (though i got it 2 games in a row on my Phoenix in the last days). I only use this flag for the grind to upgrade never for the grind to next ship but i currently have over 260 of these flags 

 

I got about 60 flags before the patch and atm i'm using them on yorck, to balance the lack of premium.

[Cosseria]

I wonder if the requirements to get the xp flags were changed in order to keep us playing at lower tiers, since it's there that I go farming flags from time to time (altough Killing 5 ships is indeed very situational).

Anyway I'm fine with confederate, it's still relatively easy to win. I'm also fine with the distinction between ship xp and cdr xp, as sometimes I use just the cdr xp flag on some elite ships that don't need additional xp. Something to speed up cdr training was required too as beyond the 3rd skill it's a long way to get a 4th level. I only wish the kraken unleashed was brought to 4 kills, honestly Killing 5 is just a matter of enemies outblundering you so not a true achievement IMHO.

What I never ever got are Solo Warrior and, not playing CVs, Clear sky.

[mtm78]

I wonder if the requirements to get the xp flags were changed in order to keep us playing at lower tiers, since it's there that I go farming flags from time to time (altough Killing 5 ships is indeed very situational).

Anyway I'm fine with confederate, it's still relatively easy to win. I'm also fine with the distinction between ship xp and cdr xp, as sometimes I use just the cdr xp flag on some elite ships that don't need additional xp. Something to speed up cdr training was required too as beyond the 3rd skill it's a long way to get a 4th level. I only wish the kraken unleashed was brought to 4 kills, honestly Killing 5 is just a matter of enemies outblundering you so not a true achievement IMHO.

What I never ever got are Solo Warrior and, not playing CVs, Clear sky.

 

I wish solo warrior had always been there, I am quite sure I been in multiple games where I was 1v4 and won but it was before they added this achievement I think.. ( or not.. in which case I'm exaggerating my own performance  ). I was also quite sure I've gotten clear sky previously while playing a cruiser, but I think those been removed when they changed the requirements for that as well.

 

All other achievements I have, the rarest Witherer ( once, in 16xx games ) and the most common Devastating Strike ( once every 7 games ).

 

But to the OP's question: no Confederate award is not that hard to get, but it's one which you should not chase after. You should keep focusing on bringing down enemy ships as fast as possible, and not switch targets after doing 20% damage to them ( yes, you can actually farm them if you want to ).

[Kurbain]

I wish solo warrior had always been there, I am quite sure I been in multiple games where I was 1v4 and won but it was before they added this achievement I think.. ( or not.. in which case I'm exaggerating my own performance  ). I was also quite sure I've gotten clear sky previously while playing a cruiser, but I think those been removed when they changed the requirements for that as well.

 

The achievements are still around if you have earned them previously. 

 

But to the OP's question: no Confederate award is not that hard to get, but it's one which you should not chase after. You should keep focusing on bringing down enemy ships as fast as possible, and not switch targets after doing 20% damage to them ( yes, you can actually farm them if you want to ).

 

Achievements like High Caliber and Confederate only reward a flag once every 24 hours, so you can't really farm them.

[ilhilh]

Confederate does take a certain kind of game but it is not very hard to achieve really.  As others have mentioned CVs are not ideal for it (although I've picked one up in my Hiryu in the past 24 hours) as they are for huge burst damage at a specific target followed by long periods of nothing a you rearm.  Other ships can cycle through targets at a much higher pace and so will pick it up more often.

[Admiral_noodle]

 

738 games

First blood 43

Devastating strike 53 (wish we got a flag

Confederate 29 (cmmdr xp is ok as you can use it on prem ships for training)

High caliber 15

Dreadnought 13

 

Everything else <10

 

Still need:

Solo warrior (virtually impossible. I did it with a St. Louis once but alas on test server)

Die-hard (I don't ram!)

Witherer (I don't really torpedo or HE spam with the ships I have. Got it on test once with a Murmansk)

Clear sky (now this really is a CV easy award)

Liquidator (again, lack of torpedoes)

 

I've got one unsinkable but you get that for screwing up damage control. I got one double strike and one CQE - with Kongo on a Langley only one kraken so far. 

 

Confederate isn't too hard or over powered in reward. It's usually a recognition of a good game like high caliber. 

 

[mtm78]

 

The achievements are still around if you have earned them previously. 

 

 

Achievements like High Caliber and Confederate only reward a flag once every 24 hours, so you can't really farm them.

 

Who cares for the flags, I just want the ribbons 

 

Guess I didn't have any 1v4 victories, shame, now I will have to focus on getting one. Just as clear sky... I might have to play Bogue AS again ( also for pearls... I tried strike setup Bogue but I am a really terrible clicker captain so that didn't end well ).

[Kurbain]

Clear sky (now this really is a CV easy award)

 

Attaining Clear Sky is surprisingly hard these days because at least 50% of all enemy planes have to be shot down with fighters/AA focus and the planes from BBs/CAs are part of the count.

 

 

I've got one unsinkable but you get that for screwing up damage control.

 

Yeah, that one is more of an anti-achievement. Thankfully I haven't received it yet.

Might get it on purpose at some point just to complete the collection. 

 

 

Guess I didn't have any 1v4 victories, shame, now I will have to focus on getting one

 

Farming the Solo Warrior achievement? Now that's what I call a honorable goal (unless you plan on sinking your teammates on purpose in order to create that 1v4 ).