DONT BUY THE ATLANTA.

[allufewig]

. telling people "DONT BUY THE ATLANTA" is just stupid.

 

 

 

 

Uhm, no?

 

One of the worst global winrates of all ships over tens of thousands of games dont come from nothing. The ship is just outright BAD for anyone who is not heavily experienced. That doesnt mean you cant have fun with it, but it certainly means the ship is an underperformer in need of a buff.

 

I call this a fair warning, not "stupid".

[Talladega_Night]

one last thing i think i need to point out. 

 

When I am in game and some one asks me about my Atlanta and, i dont tell them weather or not to buy it. I tell them what i think of it, and i also tell them to do research on it, with videos and what not in order to see if its something they would enjoy playing. I point out that there is a steep learning curve and she is not for everyone.

 

I never tell them "DONT BUY THE ATLANTA" or "DO BUY THE ATLANTA", that would be wrong of me to do so, just like its wrong here with the thread title.

 

Its called being objective about the question.

[C4PT41N_0BV10US]

Even if someone is very experienced, it's still bad. That's sad.

[SR_FRIOL]

Good for you. You are a good person and you will go to paradise one day but this have nothing to do about the ship. Still I don't change my mind. DON'T BUY THE ATLANTA! Those videos out there are after many hours of gameplay. Almost everybody admits having more bad games than good on the videos.

 

 

[C4PT41N_0BV10US]

 Its called being objective about the question.

Being objective is looking at statistics. Global server statistics, and good player statistics. I don't know if there's anybody that has more then 50k average on Atlanta that has more then 25 battles in it. Myself, having what, 1500 battles in CA only, 90% of my CA tier V+ having more then 50k averages, some of them hitting to 60 and even 70k, I'm not being able to cross 45k average with Atlanta, and it's already a good result. Win rate also is apalling. Recently I took her for few battles, did 200+ hits for 15k damage and 2,5k from fire. And, I did it only because Colorado I was harassing, was busy with some DD that was closing on him. So, in ideal situation, when you can shoot a BB, hitting his superstructure over and over again, setting fires, not having to manouvre like a madman, I still managed to do only 17,5k dmg. Hell, In Myoko I can do 15k in 2 salvoes. 

Atlanta has immense RoF. And that's it. She doesn't have damage, doesn't have mobility, doesn't have armour, doesn't have HP pool, doesn't have good torpedoes - nothing. Turrets can be put out of order by DD's (it's not uncommon to finish a battle - if you finish it at all - with 2 or 3 turrets working) - which hinder Atlantas performance even more. She doesn't have good ballistics, so you need to close to your enemy. You can fight DD's (at very close range, around 6 - 7 km), but you have only 30 knots, no real tool to spot them, no floatplane even.

So yes, don't buy Atlanta. It's a premium ship, which is so bad, even the best players are struggling with making it work at decent levels, I'm not talking about carrying games even. Cause she can't, in case you asked.

 

[SR_FRIOL]

Being objective is looking at statistics. Global server statistics, and good player statistics. I don't know if there's anybody that has more then 50k average on Atlanta that has more then 25 battles in it. Myself, having what, 1500 battles in CA only, 90% of my CA tier V+ having more then 50k averages, some of them hitting to 60 and even 70k, I'm not being able to cross 45k average with Atlanta, and it's already a good result. Win rate also is apalling. Recently I took her for few battles, did 200+ hits for 15k damage and 2,5k from fire. And, I did it only because Colorado I was harassing, was busy with some DD that was closing on him. So, in ideal situation, when you can shoot a BB, hitting his superstructure over and over again, setting fires, not having to manouvre like a madman, I still managed to do only 17,5k dmg. Hell, In Myoko I can do 15k in 2 salvoes. 

Atlanta has immense RoF. And that's it. She doesn't have damage, doesn't have mobility, doesn't have armour, doesn't have HP pool, doesn't have good torpedoes - nothing. Turrets can be put out of order by DD's (it's not uncommon to finish a battle - if you finish it at all - with 2 or 3 turrets working) - which hinder Atlantas performance even more. She doesn't have good ballistics, so you need to close to your enemy. You can fight DD's (at very close range, around 6 - 7 km), but you have only 30 knots, no real tool to spot them, no floatplane even.

So yes, don't buy Atlanta. It's a premium ship, which is so bad, even the best players are struggling with making it work at decent levels, I'm not talking about carrying games even. Cause she can't, in case you asked.

 

 

Thank you very much. If I could speak good English that's what i wanted to say! Thank you

[Cosseria]

When I see an Atlanta in my team and none on the enemy's I already know we're down by a ship. That ship may excel at AA barrages and short range fights but like the real one that's all she can do. When we'll have a night version of the currently useless Solomons map with 5 kms visibility she might be of some use, until then, I advise everybody to grind up to the Myoko if you want a T VII cruiser.

[SR_FRIOL]

When I see an Atlanta in my team and none on the enemy's I already know we're down by a ship. That ship may excel at AA barrages and short range fights but like the real one that's all she can do. When we'll have a night version of the currently useless Solomons map with 5 kms visibility she might be of some use, until then, I advise everybody to grind up to the Myoko if you want a T VII cruiser.

 

imagine you have two atlantas in open sea map. it happent to me, I was the one of them. Then they tell you it is a enjoyable ship but you have to master it.

[Beardroid91]

The Atlanta's AA isn't even that good compaired to the Cleveland and Pensacola, i have had many CV's wreck me as the Atlanta can't do crapwhen the defensive AA fire consumable is on cool down, as it's primary AA guns on the 127mm main guns which suck at shooting anything down without the consumable turned on.

 

So better rudder, speed and generally improved ship feel is high on my wish list, i could live with the gun arcs, but the fire chance or firing rate needs to go up, as the Atlanta is heavily out tiered at tier 6+ and it is a tier 7 ship....

 

But you'll have 1 good game in 10 avg. crap battles.

[SR_FRIOL]

The Atlanta's AA isn't even that good compaired to the Cleveland and Pensacola, i have had many CV's wreck me as the Atlanta can't do crapwhen the defensive AA fire consumable is on cool down, as it's primary AA guns on the 127mm main guns which suck at shooting anything down without the consumable turned on.

 

So better rudder, speed and generally improved ship feel is high on my wish list, i could live with the gun arcs, but the fire chance or firing rate needs to go up, as the Atlanta is heavily out tiered at tier 6+ and it is a tier 7 ship....

 

But you'll have 1 good game in 10 avg. crap battles.

agree

[triumphgt6]

I love playing the Atlanta - I was truly appalling with her initially as I fought it like a normal cruiser. Getting better though and it is my go to ship when I want to have fun. I agree, you can have some pretty average games in it but it is made up for when everything goes right and you can have a stupendous one! The Cleveland AA is better but the unlimited recharge is a big bonus.

[C4PT41N_0BV10US]

 I love playing the Atlanta - I was truly appalling with her initially as I fought it like a normal cruiser. Getting better though and it is my go to ship when I want to have fun. I agree, you can have some pretty average games in it but it is made up for when everything goes right and you can have a stupendous one! The Cleveland AA is better but the unlimited recharge is a big bonus. 

Don't get me wrong, but your performance in Atlanta is very bad. But it's not bad because you can't make her work, it's bad cause it's Atlanta. Your average dmg is 25k on it. That's very very very bad for tier VII cruiser. It means, that on average game you take around 30-40% of BB's health (not counting HP regen). 

I agree, that, from time to time, playing Atlanta can be fun. It surely can. But it's not a good cruiser, it's not even an average cruiser like Pensacola (experienced players can do very well in it). It's just a bad ship, which was mauled by the power curve so hard, it's doing less average dmg then DD's on the same tier. 

And this topic isn't about personal "feel" if the ship. It's about honest performance and how this ship print money. And it doesn't. So let's be objective here for any new player who's looking for a premium ship. You need to know what are you buying, and you're buying the worst tier VII ship in game right now.

 

[Shadeshots]

Atlanta is actually in my top 10's for winrate lol

 

Its a great ship but you need to sail it carefully, cover is your friend. 

[Poster_2015]

Ill just drop on the subject of "printing money". Atlanta is not a moneymaker. In fact there are only 2 ships that are real moneymakers. If you want to make silvers, buy a Tirpitz or Atago. 

 

Dont get me wrong. I own a few premiums, bought mostly for the fun of using them. I have Atlanta, that i occasionally take out for a spin when i feel like firing fast (and honestly, after putting 200 hits in a target for 20k damage im done for few weeks - this ship IS crap). I have Murmansk, which is a blast to play. I have Nikolai, and i watch/try Blyskawica and Warspite on my bro's account. They are all earning nice silvers, but its nowhere close to the 2 mentioned.

 

It is something that started with WoT. I had a lot of premium tanks there too - some were super fun. But only tier 8 premiums (there were no t9 premiums when i played, maybe it changed, i wouldnt know), were making real cash. The difference was enormous between t8 and anything else.  Its same here. Sure i had 500k battles in murmansk, They happen (so did a 470k battle in a Pensacola). But on Atago my average is 650k on a win, and 400 on a loss. 

 

I play Atago now on rankeds (and i really recommend it . Cruisers might not be the best class to "carry" a ranked battle, but Atago is hands down best cruiser, so you wont "drag your team down", but the opposite. It also has instant queues). I got a 1.150.000 earning battle in RANKED - with 7 targets to shoot at.

 

So yes if you want a money printer get an Atago from shop - its actually not an exciting ship. Its good, id say very good, but it doesnt excel at anything (maybe you can say it excels at camo). But it works, and it makes you filthy rich. Or wait for a bundle for Tirpitz or Kutuzow (i havent tried it , but i expect as t8 its also a money printer).  
 

What Im also getting at - WG buffed Atago. I expect they will get to buffing Atlanta (soon tm). There are plenty ways of buffing it without making any "unhistorical" alterations. Improve its camo drastically (so its around the level of russian DDs), improve the shell arc. Improve the fire chance. Improve the torpedoes. They will get this ship usable i think. BUT, even when it will get strong and fun to play, it will NOT be a money printer - simply because its t7. 

[Smeggo]

Sadly they stated currently that the Atlanta is "working as intended" and no buff is planned - quoted someone a Devs-statement from the RU-forums 

 

[Lieutenant_Hubert_Gruber]

I love this ship and it is my little fun boat 

 

A few thing that puzzle me. I took this boat as an AA fortress, sadly I tend to shoot down few planes even with AA setup. 

Starting fires with HE is something I fell is a bit weak. Often I hunt DDs and often find myself with 3 fires after 2 salvos from them while I've manage to set none on them. 

 

But all in all it is a fun ship to play and feels like a true premium ship( have its moments like shooting AP in close combat vs other cruisers) not better than it's tech tree counter parts.

 

Buy it as a ship to take out when the game is really getting on ya nerves! 

[triumphgt6]

Don't get me wrong, but your performance in Atlanta is very bad. But it's not bad because you can't make her work, it's bad cause it's Atlanta. Your average dmg is 25k on it. That's very very very bad for tier VII cruiser. It means, that on average game you take around 30-40% of BB's health (not counting HP regen). 

I agree, that, from time to time, playing Atlanta can be fun. It surely can. But it's not a good cruiser, it's not even an average cruiser like Pensacola (experienced players can do very well in it). It's just a bad ship, which was mauled by the power curve so hard, it's doing less average dmg then DD's on the same tier. 

And this topic isn't about personal "feel" if the ship. It's about honest performance and how this ship print money. And it doesn't. So let's be objective here for any new player who's looking for a premium ship. You need to know what are you buying, and you're buying the worst tier VII ship in game right now.

 

 

Actually I agree with you - the guns on an Atlanta are poor for a tier 7 and the damage dealt especially on BBs is pretty low - but it is a great support ship - good against DDs, good against aircraft - the defensive fire with no limit by itself is very useful and you can have stunning games. I confess to being pretty average - my win rate was almost exactly 50% in the Atlanta - but I make a point of escorting when I can. And I have had some great games, even when no carrier!

 

[Sadzior]

It need smoke .

If kutuzov have it why not atlanta ( and smoke charges are even modeled on it if you look close)

It need WORKING "hydroacoustic search" - or to be more close to reality " radar search"

 

Plus according to hisitorical info its guuns have max range about 15 klicks and aerial range almoust 12 Km... so maybe a buff to 12 km.

 

Also constantly dying turrets are a pestillence...

 

Maybe repair party consumable?

 

 

[Beardroid91]

If the guns should get a range buff then the shell speed needs a buff too, as the gun arc is fine, but the shell speed is to slow for long range shooting as chances are your target will avoid every salvo you fire at them, as you have 2-3 salvos in the air and making adjustments is super hard if the target turns just abit.

 

So i think shell speed and fire chance would be the best area to buff the guns.

 

But a smoke screen would allow you to be more aggressive in the Atlanta, and it is a stupid joke that the DD lead ship doesn't have smoke.

[C4PT41N_0BV10US]

 Actually I agree with you - the guns on an Atlanta are poor for a tier 7 and the damage dealt especially on BBs is pretty low - but it is a great support ship - good against DDs, good against aircraft - the defensive fire with no limit by itself is very useful and you can have stunning games. I confess to being pretty average - my win rate was almost exactly 50% in the Atlanta - but I make a point of escorting when I can. And I have had some great games, even when no carrier!

Like I said, your personal performance aside, Atlanta is just bad. I agree, it's kinda fun cruiser, but last 10 games gave me more frustration then fun. Although recently I just burned down full Iowa that was shooting me (he clearly wasn't the best player ever). So, if you already have few premiums to print creds, and you're looking for a different ship - you can try Atlanta. But if you're newbie and just getting to grips with WoWs - don't buy it.

 

[Noobsplatter]

Atlanta is quite a unforgiving ship but on the other hand it can create so much panic. The high shell arc does go along quite well with camping behind an island tossing hundreds of molotovs. This leads to desperate measures on the ships that catch fire and it`s not uncommon to see captains crying as hard as they can in an attempt to put out the neverending fires.

 

I seem to be doing quite well in it but that might just be either my psyching out enemies or enemies just being newly picked potatoes. Still I would like it to be buffed a little bit in terms of speed and maybe a little better ruddershift time.

[Nechrom]

The Atlanta is a wonderful and fun cruiser.

 

Do AA and anti-DD support or sneaky ambush tactics. Preferably both.

 

I wouldn't get it if your main objective is credit grinding, but if you already have a good credit grinder like the Murmansk or a tier VIII premium then the Atlanta is good fun and perfect for training USN DD and CL captains.

[jonasnee]

i brought the atlanta and i havn't regretted it, being able to kill ships in sub 10 secs is just hilarious.

[KaraMon]

i brought the atlanta and i havn't regretted it, being able to kill ships sink  in sub 10 secs is just hilarious.

 

You made minor mistake :p

[_Waste_]

 

Itis a fun ship to play whit strong side and big flaws.

 

1) Give it better rudder

2) Increase the torp range to 6 km or more

3) Give it "engine boost II " so it can get up to 35 knots (run or catch up whit DD) ​