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[Necondus]

Thanks for the answer MrConway, like everyone else I'm a bit concerned about the potential race at the end to get 260 before the 10 million target is reached. At the current rate its possible 260 pearls will only being attainable for potentially less than a day before we hit the target.

 

Would it be reasonable to let the week of pearl collecting finish when we hit 10 million rather than closing it immediately, to let everyone who has put in the effort so far able to reach 260 rather than potentially only those able to play right at the start of the week? 

[Unintentional_submarine]

Well, that's it then. I will have to play and finish my weekly missions on the next two Mondays, or risk sitting on 240 pearls or something stupid like that.

I can't expect people to not suddenly surge in and prop the pearl numbers up. Until I reach 260 pearls, I will just have to be quick about it on the Mondays.

[bushwacker001]

 

many years ago when I was a code monkey a colleague F'ed up a piece of code when he forgot to take out a short line of code that was intended for testing purposes only. It caused a single loop to occur in the program.

 

That loop took place in production on the 1st run after new year when peoples annual payments for their mortgages/insurances etc were made via BACS transfer. millions of pounds came out of peoples accounts ... and then the program looped and did it again. Emptying accounts, pushing people into overdrafts and beyond agreed limits causing penalty payments to be taken off ... pushing them into more penalty payments. People got up to no money in the bank.

 

Took months to sort out the mess. Mibi thats why I dont get that upset when WG have a hiccup.

 

 

 

mmmm how long ago? It wasn't involving Bristol and West BS was it?  Those fkrs took 2 monthly mortgage payments in a day and wouldn't give me it back.....had a right feud with them over it and after that cancelled the standing order and left them to hope I turned up once a month with cash to pay my mortgage. 

[Mucker]

Can someone please show the math behind the claim that the 10 million pearls will be reached as early as the 4th week into the event?

Are you taking the daily average we achieved so far and then keep projecting that average into the future until it meets the mark? 

[MrFingers]

Nothing is written in stone, and it's all based on guestimating, but yesterday evening, we surpassed the 3.3M pearls. That means that next Monday (February 1st), we'll probably reach 6.6M, and the Monday (February 8th), we'll reach the 10M (if the progress stays around 3.3ish M pearls/week, which is entirely plausible because the decrease of progress in terms of non-repeatable missions will be offset by the influx of new/late players...).

 

57P per weekly batch, and 65 for the non-repeatable missions... That means that on the 7th, the "best players" (those who did all the weekly missions AND all the non-repeatable missions) will be at 236P. Yesterday we saw an increase of over a million in general progress, so it would be entirely possible to pass the goal of 10M somewhere Monday the 8th.

[Tyrendian89]

Nothing is written in stone, and it's all based on guestimating, but yesterday evening, we surpassed the 3.3M pearls. That means that next Monday (February 1st), we'll probably reach 6.6M, and the Monday (February 8th), we'll reach the 10M (if the progress stays around 3.3ish M pearls/week, which is entirely plausible because the decrease of progress in terms of non-repeatable missions will be offset by the influx of new/late players...).

 

57P per weekly batch, and 65 for the non-repeatable missions... That means that on the 7th, the "best players" (those who did all the weekly missions AND all the non-repeatable missions) will be at 236P. Yesterday we saw an increase of over a million in general progress, so it would be entirely possible to pass the goal of 10M somewhere Monday the 8th.

 

we'll see if that holds true, and I very much doubt it will. I simply can't imagine there being a big enough influx of new participants to offset the only-once boost of the first week. I just don't see a reson why they should. There's zero incentive (or maybe prompt is the better word, as in additional advertising) for people who have not yet joined to do it specifically now. Or maybe I'm missing something - where do you think those additional numbers should come from?

[Jethro_Grey]

We're now at 3.7 Million and at this rate...this may end up with a very tight photo finish.

Reaching 10 Mil before reaching the 260 Pearls needed for the Kami seems to be quite possible.

 

Edit: with 400k Pearls each day, we'll reach the 10 mil goal on Feb 6th.

 

 

[ilhilh]

We're now at 3.7 Million and at this rate...this may end up with a very tight photo finish.

Reaching 10 Mil before reaching the 260 Pearls needed for the Kami seems to be quite possible.

 

Edit: with 400k Pearls each day, we'll reach the 10 mil goal on Feb 6th.

 

 

 

400k pearls was on the day that the missions refreshed.  Again, an unusually high pearl day one would expect...

[Mucker]

Nothing is written in stone, and it's all based on guestimating, but yesterday evening, we surpassed the 3.3M pearls. That means that next Monday (February 1st), we'll probably reach 6.6M, and the Monday (February 8th), we'll reach the 10M (if the progress stays around 3.3ish M pearls/week, which is entirely plausible because the decrease of progress in terms of non-repeatable missions will be offset by the influx of new/late players...).

 

57P per weekly batch, and 65 for the non-repeatable missions... That means that on the 7th, the "best players" (those who did all the weekly missions AND all the non-repeatable missions) will be at 236P. Yesterday we saw an increase of over a million in general progress, so it would be entirely possible to pass the goal of 10M somewhere Monday the 8th.

 

Thanks. I'm curious as how the influx of new players will offset the ever smaller pool of pearls. Remember, the pool of EU players is limited.

 

I'm trying to guesstimate the number of active players as of now, and i'm getting a low of 20000 and a high of 23000. Since 25000 maxed out players are needed to succeed, i'm a bit worried. Because, lets face it, most of the players that take part are prolly maxed out already (I'm at 169 ) And that would mean we already have 40% of the possible pearls.  I think it may be done on the deadline, but it will be a close call. I do hope i'm wrong though. 

 

 

 

[it3llig3nc3]

I agree with MrFingers and the similar opinions that based on the current valid rule-set we will reach the 10million P and it will be much earlier than the announced max threshold date. The big IF is of course the stability of the current patterns most importantly the weekly missions.

 

This same question of rule-set was asked in different threads and I made my points not here but there and wish not to repeat myself.

A suggestion for the Forum Moderators is to compile the same subjects into one thread and stop the fragmentation.

 

Two closing comments:

1. The reason I raised this question of rules was the direct consequence of WG announcing the 260P target for guaranteed TOP PRIZE. If anyone among us believed that Wargaming was throwing out this limit "random" is at best naive. Nobody should think that they suddenly become Aunt Teresa - it was a fair reaction with give and takes. 

2. To me the most interesting thing now is that the situation WG has created (assuming these rules will be the same till the end) a very interesting game theory situation. As the community is now tested on moral behavior. There is a personal goal and the community goal and the two conflicts. 

One example is: once somebody reaches 260 pearls will it stop playing if has non-completed missions to slow down the counter for the other's benefit?

The other is: will late comers who does not have a chance to reach 150P at least will not join and play, despite the personal small benefits, for the same reason: to give others more chance?

And in the funny way, through the server stats WG will see this epic battle unfold between us...

 

[Kenjiro_]

Guys relax! Everything will be ok in the end.

Of course they cant tell us that though because if we knew that the award is guarenteed we would stop trying so hard.

They want us to keep playing!

 

So, keep calm and collect pearls.

Everything will be fine.

This! Project R failing would be a PR disaster so I believe 10 million will be reached one way or another. Keep calm and collect pearls ☺

[Admiral_noodle]

 

So, I have some answers for you.

 

1. With the current planning, the event will end as soon as we hit 10 million pearls. If you do not have 260 pearls at that point, you will only be eligible for the lottery. (Provided you have at least 150 pearls)

 

2. See 1.

 

3. If we do not hit 10 million, there will be no Kamikaze. But remember that EU is stronk, we will make it! 

 

Hmmm

 

regarding 3 - you've stated guaranteed. This could go badly if 10 million isn't reached

 

regarding 1 - I forsee raging on forums and in support tickets for players who hit 260 pearls *just after* the 10 million is reached. Will it be "cut" at the very moment the target is hit? You see where I am coming from

 

As its an event searching for virtual things where the ways to get them are set by WG I would suggest:

 

Making sure 10 million is reached at an appropriate time. Fiddle it so that 10m is reached at a sensible cut off (eg the event finishes at a server reset.) then no one can argue they reached the 260 before or after...

[Crooq_Lionfang]

I personally think that the number of people, that have more than 100 pearls is much lower than many expect. The many casuals and weekend players might have the first set of weeklies done (57P), maybe 2 of the research missions (15P), one of the class missions (5P) and at most 2 of the sink X ships in tier Y (10P) for an estimated 87 pearls. Considering the number of this kind of players compared to the number of players with the time and dedication to have their pearls maxed out I think the average number of pearls gathered should be around 110-120, putting the number of participants somewhere between 31.000 and 35.000. 

 

With that number of people gradually doing their weeklies and slowly getting their one time missions done, I estimate we reach the 10.000.000 within a week of the deadline. 

[Admiral_noodle]

I have 124. Best get playing!!

 

[B010011A]

I have all the 179 pearls atm, waiting for the next 57 and so on. ;) I wish we can get that 10M pearls! It would suck not getting that Kamikaze...

[Arakus]

 

So, I have some answers for you.

 

1. With the current planning, the event will end as soon as we hit 10 million pearls. If you do not have 260 pearls at that point, you will only be eligible for the lottery. (Provided you have at least 150 pearls)

 

2. See 1.

 

3. If we do not hit 10 million, there will be no Kamikaze. But remember that EU is stronk, we will make it! 

 

What will happen if we reach the 10 million pearls early, and nobody had the chance to get 260 pearls?

That would be a great fail for WG?

[IsamuKondera]

 

What will happen if we reach the 10 million pearls early, and nobody had the chance to get 260 pearls?

That would be a grat fail for WG?

 

I already see the fire on the horizon...

 

thats going to be fun they said...

[Zathras_Grimm]

As long as some made it to the 260+ why would it be a great fail? the fail seems to be with those who believe that this isn't a mission that they could be successful in, or not.

 

And on these forums there is always a fire; that would be nothing new!

[T0byJug]

 

Hmmm

 

regarding 3 - you've stated guaranteed. This could go badly if 10 million isn't reached

Go back and read it again! Garanteed on Successful completion of the event! it has always been clear

 

regarding 1 - I forsee raging on forums and in support tickets for players who hit 260 pearls *just after* the 10 million is reached. Will it be "cut" at the very moment the target is hit? You see where I am coming from  Agree here better if WG at least say the end of that Day the event is completed

 

As its an event searching for virtual things where the ways to get them are set by WG I would suggest:

 

Making sure 10 million is reached at an appropriate time. Fiddle it so that 10m is reached at a sensible cut off (eg the event finishes at a server reset.) then no one can argue they reached the 260 before or after...

 

[JapLance]

 

So, I have some answers for you.

 

1. With the current planning, the event will end as soon as we hit 10 million pearls. If you do not have 260 pearls at that point, you will only be eligible for the lottery. (Provided you have at least 150 pearls)

 

2. See 1.

 

3. If we do not hit 10 million, there will be no Kamikaze. But remember that EU is stronk, we will make it! 

 

As expected. This has been very clear to me since the beginning. Some people should check their reading skills.

 

I have another question: what if the 10M pearls are reached BEFORE anybody can collect the 260 pearls? Has WG ever contemplated this happening and what would they do about it?

 

And as I was writing this, another one popped up in my head. Originally only the lottery was the final award. Was WG aware of the thousands of people that were going to get 150 pearls? In the 8th day of the event many people here already had 179, imagine how many will have reached that amount in yet another 3 weeks.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

 

Please note that the first pearls are the easiest to get. There are about 70 pearls who don't renew. The weekly 57 pearls are very easy to get, but a lot of people already got those on monday. So how longer the projects runs, the slower the amount of pearls will go up. 

 

In my opinion it will be very hard to get the 10 mln pearls. But I will do my part . I'm on 179 pearls at the moment and I'm going for the maximum amount of pearls of arround 350 pearls.

 

We only earned around 200.000 pearls in past 24 hours... I think it will be very very hard... I was over-optimistic yesterday...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

 

P.S.

I am at 166 ...

[T0byJug]

 

As expected. This has been very clear to me since the beginning. Some people should check their reading skills. Agread it was very Clear

 

I have another question: what if the 10M pearls are reached BEFORE anybody can collect the 260 pearls? Has WG ever contemplated this happening and what would they do about it. Possible but very unlikely.  The increase will slow down as more and more get the Research/Class and frag missions done 

 

And as I was writing this, another one popped up in my head. Originally only the lottery was the final award. Was WG aware of the thousands of people that were going to get 150 pearls? In the 8th day of the event many people here already had 179, imagine how many will have reached that amount in yet another 3 weeks. Dont see an issue 2000 will get the ship and all those with 260 will get it as well. Ok if by some miracle its finished next week! If we are lucky WG will decrease the number of pearls needed to lets say 236 the maximum pearls achievable in the time frame.

 

[Admiral_noodle]

So I need 2 more weeks missions to get 260+ based on the missions I know I should complete and the 57 available per weekly missions. So on or around 10th Feb. 

[Johnny_Phate]

 

As expected. This has been very clear to me since the beginning. Some people should check their reading skills.

 

I have another question: what if the 10M pearls are reached BEFORE anybody can collect the 260 pearls? Has WG ever contemplated this happening and what would they do about it?

 

And as I was writing this, another one popped up in my head. Originally only the lottery was the final award. Was WG aware of the thousands of people that were going to get 150 pearls? In the 8th day of the event many people here already had 179, imagine how many will have reached that amount in yet another 3 weeks.

 

 

Pretty sure that is the plan. They only wanted to do the lottery and added goal that later proves impossible to reach just to shut us up. 

[ilhilh]

 

 

Pretty sure that is the plan. They only wanted to do the lottery and added goal that later proves impossible to reach just to shut us up. 

 

If they have planned this then they have shut no one up.  All they have done is turn a shitstorm into biblical shitstorm 3 weeks later.  Which would be mindbogglingly stupid.