Improving game chat, the Russian way

[Takru]

Right now, the Russian community is giving away premium ships (namely Emperor Nikolai I.) and flags to people who receive high Karma. Admittedly, "only" the five highest ppl get the ships, but that's not the point. The point is that the community actively is encouraged to be helpful and friendly. May be this little incentive would improve things in the EU community as well?

 

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[LilJumpa]

 May be this little incentive would improve things in the EU community as well?

 

Could be. Would be funny to see hardcore flamers trying to be nice, and annoying because of the number of "Karma-beggers" that will appear.

 

But the Top 5 will go to  members of clans. Would be naive to think otherwise.

[Blue_Bug]

Right now, the Russian community is giving away premium ships (namely Emperor Nikolai I.) and flags to people who receive high Karma. Admittedly, "only" the five highest ppl get the ships, but that's not the point. The point is that the community actively is encouraged to be helpful and friendly. May be this little incentive would improve things in the EU community as well?

 

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://forum.worldofwarships.ru/index.php%3F/topic/40937-%25D1%2586%25D0%25B5%25D0%25BD%25D0%25BD%25D1%258B%25D0%25B5-%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B3%25D1%2580%25D0%25BE%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8-19-%25D0%25B4%25D0%25B5%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B0%25D0%25B1%25D1%2580%25D1%258F-25-%25D0%25B4%25D0%25B5%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B0%25D0%25B1%25D1%2580%25D1%258F/page__pid__1714685&usg=ALkJrhgS_Oh9TPVoZj2aUNREfziW9Q7TmQ#entry1714685

 

No it isn't. many times people get reported for things that can't be considered poor play or misbehavior in chat. People get reported for example :

- Reported for killing an enemy vessel, by that same enemy

- Reported for not following silly "orders"

- Reported for not agreeing to the mutial tactic

etc.etc.

 

This will only lead to more negative reports.

 

The only way this could work is when they only count the compliments and not the reports.

 

Edit: I have to agree with LilJumpa, Compliments will not work either because it is easy to commit fraud with it.

[ilhilh]

My karma has sat steadfastly at 0 since being introduced.

 

1. I do well in quite a lot of games.  I do badly in some.
2. I type in chat when I notice people doing well.
3. I rage in chat in occasion when I feel people's actions warrant it.
4. I use some reports and some compliments every time I play.

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I find it really hard to believe that I have not received some reports - good or bad!  And if this is the case then I don't know how I could possibly have threaded a line of keeping it neutral every day for a week.

[Admiral_noodle]

People don't compliment very much I don't think. Is it an EU thing? I'd love to see the stats on compliments vs. Reports by server. I'm willing to bet the eu server has the worst compliment to report ratio

 

Miserable Europeans

[IsamuKondera]

Do people know that this feature actually exist? o.0

[LilJumpa]

Do people know that this feature actually exist? o.0

 

You actually get a system notice if you get 2 or more reports in a match.

[Pastaiolo]

To be honest, i think most people won't change the behaviour for that, for the simple reason even to get a lot of karma as a normal not flaming player takes a lot of effort.

 

Having ood manners is something that goes beyond the game

[IamTroublemaker]

Reports and compliments should just be removed. There aren't enough options in reports and they do not work anyway while no one compliments and it doesn't really mean anything when they do so.

[Cosseria]

I think it would work the other way around. Angry players would report those who sank them so that they would have one less karma point to get the ship. Meanwhile giving away compliments would result in promoting the concurrents and having ourselves less chances to get the prize. In the end it will only stir up a report storm.

With the karma system in its current - useless and meaningless - state, introducing such a contest would only p#ss players off.

[Takru]

 

You actually get a system notice if you get 2 or more reports in a match.

 

Admittedly, said notice appears somewhere in between all those battle reports. Do 2 or more battles and it'll just vanish between them.

[MrFingers]

Is open for abuse by "popular players" who are part of a clan like structure, or have many division mates.

[Takru]

I think it would work the other way around. Angry players would report those who sank them so that they would have one less karma point to get the ship. Meanwhile giving away compliments would result in promoting the concurrents and having ourselves less chances to get the prize. In the end it will only stir up a report storm.

With the karma system in its current - useless and meaningless - state, introducing such a contest would only p#ss players off.

 

For some reason, RU is doing it like that. I do hope that the other communities are having an eye on this (not only EU but the others as well). If it does work, it might be ferried over to other communities. There're clans as well on that servergroup, they'll notice said problem when it occurs. Mind you you only can commend players when you've been in the same battle, so any form of rigging would be limited to the wee hours.

[Sonic_157]

 

I use my 5 compliments daily. I always compliment the best/helpful player i meet in battle. Especially if he is on the enemy team.

 

On the other hand, i do not report that often. Mostly Team Killers or people that swear a lot in chat.

 

My Karma is always 0 ofc!

[LilJumpa]

 Mind you you only can commend players when you've been in the same battle, so any form of rigging would be limited to the wee hours.

 

As I said, don't be naive ;)

[Drigtol]

Right now, the Russian community is giving away premium ships (namely Emperor Nikolai I.) and flags to people who receive high Karma. Admittedly, "only" the five highest ppl get the ships, but that's not the point. The point is that the community actively is encouraged to be helpful and friendly. May be this little incentive would improve things in the EU community as well?

 

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://forum.worldofwarships.ru/index.php%3F/topic/40937-%25D1%2586%25D0%25B5%25D0%25BD%25D0%25BD%25D1%258B%25D0%25B5-%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B3%25D1%2580%25D0%25BE%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8-19-%25D0%25B4%25D0%25B5%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B0%25D0%25B1%25D1%2580%25D1%258F-25-%25D0%25B4%25D0%25B5%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B0%25D0%25B1%25D1%2580%25D1%258F/page__pid__1714685&usg=ALkJrhgS_Oh9TPVoZj2aUNREfziW9Q7TmQ#entry1714685

 

I say "REMOVE Karma" I've just been reported by a green team member, who torped me from behind, saying I was playing the game badly ... I was backing up into my own smoke, on a point I was capturing!

[Drigtol]

People don't compliment very much I don't think. Is it an EU thing? I'd love to see the stats on compliments vs. Reports by server. I'm willing to bet the eu server has the worst compliment to report ratio

 

Miserable Europeans

 

I've complimented

[MrFingers]

 

As I said, don't be naive ;)

 

t-22 mission rigging in WoT comes to mind, as do carrier exploits in the ARP-missions (two friendly carriers who press battle at the same time, in the unpopular hours of the day, have a very large chance of ending on opposing teams. Both have a fighter-layout, and the mutual farming can begin).

[ilhilh]

 

t-22 mission rigging in WoT comes to mind, as do carrier exploits in the ARP-missions (two friendly carriers who press battle at the same time, in the unpopular hours of the day, have a very large chance of ending on opposing teams. Both have a fighter-layout, and the mutual farming can begin).

 

If people play in the wee small hours to get 150 plane kills then they are mental.  150 is not a lot.

[Reyte]

 

If people play in the wee small hours to get 150 plane kills then they are mental.  150 is not a lot.

 

yep its almost nothing. I had that in no time. The missions feature different challenges so it seems to me they are supposed to make people play different classes.....overall there is enough time to do the missions. I dont get why people whine so much about the missions.

 

About cv exploit: yes there is the possibility to exploit it, thats the price of fixed mm. But its a price whorth to pay for.....

 

I did not ve to rigg ib order to get the arp-ships, thats against cv plaaying anyway which consists in outplaying the enemy cv

[EsaTuunanen]

I think it would work the other way around. Angry players would report those who sank them so that they would have one less karma point to get the ship.

Maybe server should just count those reports as compliments?

After all server could check if reported player sank the maker of that report.

[HariSeldon]

The problem is that humanity will find a way to trick the system. As....play in high hours, where the population is low and do a count to enter battle, every time you see a "friend" compliment!! and voila, you will have people cheat the rewards again. 

 

Ofc this is easy to spot and notice by WG, but still, ...you can bend the system in your favour by a few point margin. =/

[gr0pah]

My karma has sat steadfastly at 0 since being introduced.

 

1. I do well in quite a lot of games.  I do badly in some.
2. I type in chat when I notice people doing well.
3. I rage in chat in occasion when I feel people's actions warrant it.
4. I use some reports and some compliments every time I play.

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I find it really hard to believe that I have not received some reports - good or bad!  And if this is the case then I don't know how I could possibly have threaded a line of keeping it neutral every day for a week.

 

Reports and compliments should just be removed. There aren't enough options in reports and they do not work anyway while no one compliments and it doesn't really mean anything when they do so.

 

 

I use my 5 compliments daily. I always compliment the best/helpful player i meet in battle. Especially if he is on the enemy team.

 

On the other hand, i do not report that often. Mostly Team Killers or people that swear a lot in chat.

 

My Karma is always 0 ofc!

 

I see a lot of people complain/state this; that karma never moves. If I would describe myself in-game I'd pretty much use ilhilh's words, but my karma is 25 - so I'm not seeing what you guys are seeing

[ilhilh]

I see a lot of people complain/state this; that karma never moves. If I would describe myself in-game I'd pretty much use ilhilh's words, but my karma is 25 - so I'm not seeing what you guys are seeing

 

Did it start at 0 and move there?  Or was it already above 0 when it got implemented?  I know I certainly gave you a compliment (maybe 2) during last season's ranked battles.

[Cosseria]

The only way I see to make it work as intended would be to give prizes to players with the best game played/number of reports for misbehaviour in chat ratio. And this too could be abused giving false reports to your enemies.