Cant decide, Colarado or Nagato

[fletch67]

Got some free xp to use cant decide on witch to advance to first Nagato or the big C

What you folks think?

[Panocek]

Got some free xp to use cant decide on witch to advance to first Nagato or the big C

What you folks think?

 

If you can handle 20kn of speed and guns having derp mode by default, you can go Colorado.

[Hurme_Ulina]

Both are pretty great ships. Their main guns are quite similar so if you prefer armor and better AA choose Colo or if speed and maneuverability are your things take Nagato. 

[Jethro_Grey]

The Colorado is stock pretty bad, upgraded however a wonderful brawler with an amazing punch on ~10-12km.

Nagato ain't bad either, though a bit faster then the Colorado. It really depends on your preference.

[BadGene616]

Save your free exp, grind out both fuso and new Mexico, both are superb.

You'll appreciate having that to spend on the Colorado or nagato so you don't have to play them completely stock.

[Tyrendian89]

Save your free exp, grind out both fuso and new Mexico, both are superb.

You'll appreciate having that to spend on the Colorado or nagato so you don't have to play them completely stock.

 

seconded! I'd say pretty much never use free XP to get to a new ship faster unless you really really dislike the preceding one (which was the case for me going from Yorck to Hipper, I never once regretted spending those 60k free XP!). Save your free XP to get out of the stock configuration (more important on some ships than on others, but generally a very very good idea on most Battleships, the two you're contemplating very much included).

[ilhilh]

Yea, as the above say don't skip either of the 2 tier 6 BBs as they are both fantastic.  Enjoy your time with them.  And, you will need your free EXP to get the tier VII ships into better shape.  The Colorado particularly is a NIGHTMARE stock. Colorado needs B hull at least and probably propulsion to knock it into vaguely usable shape.  If you stick the FCS on there then you can grind out the C hull at your leisure.  The Nagato is a lot more usable stock but it doesn't hurt to get some of the upgrades as soon as you buy a ship. 

 

[D7v]

Colorado has more range than Nagato also I guess North Carolina and Iowa have more range than Amagi and Izuoma too...

 

That annoyed me much. Nagato can be a couple of knots faster but it loses on range and that s very important for BBs early attacks you get couple of shots to thin enemies.

 

Both ships are easily penetrated so dont get frustrated. You dont have New Mexico armor anymore which is I guess the best in the game. You replace armor for higher caliber guns which have higher velocity accuracy and penetration so you will do more damage per shell so you need to change game style maybe.

[Unintentional_submarine]

Save your free exp, grind out both fuso and new Mexico, both are superb.

You'll appreciate having that to spend on the Colorado or nagato so you don't have to play them completely stock.

 

YES!

Never use Free XP on anything but taking a ship out of stock config. It would be a terrible shame to cut the awesome time in New Mex and Fuso short only to sit in stock Colorado... Stock Colorado is such a pain. Stock Nagato is much less of a pain, but she is still a significant step down from upgraded Fuso. She does become awesome when upgraded... but stock is almost never fun.

[Hurme_Ulina]

I agree with the others, do not use free xp to unlock new ships, use it to ease the pain of stock grinds. As stated above both of these BBs are strong when fully upgraded but quite weak when in their stock configurations, Colorado more so.

Should've stated this in my first post 

[IamTroublemaker]

Don't use free xp to advance to ships, use free xp to research ship modules when ships are stock. Both Colorado and Nagato are relatively crap when stock so I suggest researching them with regular xp and then use free xp to research the hulls.

[Comrad_StaIin]

Colorado has more range than Nagato ...

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[IamTroublemaker]

Colorado has more range than Nagato also I guess North Carolina and Iowa have more range than Amagi and Izuoma too...

 

That annoyed me much. Nagato can be a couple of knots faster but it loses on range and that s very important for BBs early attacks you get couple of shots to thin enemies.

 

Both ships are easily penetrated so dont get frustrated. You dont have New Mexico armor anymore which is I guess the best in the game. You replace armor for higher caliber guns which have higher velocity accuracy and penetration so you will do more damage per shell so you need to change game style maybe.

 

Almost all the info is wrong there.

 

First of all Nagato has more range, then, the Colorado has almost the same armor as NM, but the problem is that you face bigger guns so it doesn't seem so good but it actually is.

 

Nagato is around 4 knots faster, which does make a difference considering how slow Colorado can feel. Also the Nagato has amazing secondaries, which can shred DDs and CAs when in close range (although it is not recommendable to get in close range to some of those ). Also, the AA on Colorado is really good for its tier while the Nagato has a bit worse AA, but it is still not bad.

[fletch67]

Thanks guys you make some excellent points, I did not know those ships were bad with the stock hull. I love my new Mexico and do quite well in the Fuso, just getting itchy feet to get into the next tier. I think the Colarado is a brute of a ship and hands out citadels like a London warden does parking tickets,it looks like a bath tub though compared to the sexy lines of the Nagato.

I will however save my free xp for ship upgrades in the future.

Thanks

[Myrmix]

Nagato pros:

-amazing ruddershift (better than fuso's)

-decent speed for ijn (amagi even gets to 30kn)

-glorious 410mm-shells

-accurate glorious 410mm-shells (you'll find citadels on places you didn't even know they were there)

 

cons:

-weak deck armor (even he-salvos by cruisers will hurt without the fire)

-you need to know how to angle your armor and don't be a main target (especially if you are low tier)

-bad flak (but with that ruddershift you can drive cv trying to drop crazy)

- accuracy lets down at 15-20km (like every BB)

-most accurate secondaries i've ever seen on a BB (it can easily finish off a 2k-cruiser, while you pick a new target)

 

somewhat inbetween:

-armor is the same (except the weaker deck) like the Fuso, but you can angle it better, due to the ship's shape.

[Kamikazesushi]

I researched Colorado first and despite all theYolorado-hate I quite enjoyed playing it.  I got Nagato quite recently and imho it is better in all except AA...oh, and also colorado is better at getting Dreadnought flags...has lower HP and stronger heal . So after all the Colorado is sold now and there is just nagato in my port. But hey, my recomendation is to start with Colorado not to get disappointed....

[Babykim]

 

Don't use free xp to unlock ships. Use it, if at all, to unlock ship modules so that you don't play stock.

 

I prefer the Nagato to Colorado.

 

Nagato (top outfit):

accurate and heavy hitting main caliber

amazing secondaries

mediocre AA

mediocre maneuverability (with ruder shift upgrade)

 

Colorado (top outfit)

mediocre accuracy but heavy hitting main caliber

decent armour

amazing AA

good maneuverability (with ruder shift upgrade)

 

[doct0rD]

Nagato is a better ship because it has better range and it is one of the most accurate battleships in the game (Amagi has the same guns). Add a solid armor scheme with really low placed citadel (under waterline), generous health pool (65k fully upgraded), solid speed and amazing secondary armament, it is no surprise why it performs so well when played correctly.

 

However, Nagato has a few weaknesses:

• It's armor, while its good, has a thin deck compartment which can be easily penetrated with plunging fire. Also the front bulkhead can easily get penetrated by 16'' shells thus receiving full citadel damage at the front even when slightly angled is not uncommon.
• It's AA guns: lets be honest, its AA defense is laughable, even when fighting against equal tier CV's.
• It has worse maneuverability than the Colorado 

 

Now lets look at the Colorado. Colorado was the village idiot of WoWS. Its dispersion was horrible, rate of fire was bad, turret traverse was even worse. Couple that with low max speed, low health pool and low max range, which was not usable anyway, since the dispersion was so terrible and you can clearly see why everyone hated this ship.

 

However in 0.4.0 it received a major buff. Rate of fire was increased, turret traverse was buffed and combined with BB dispersion buff at low ranges it has become a force to be reckoned with. It is still slow, its HP pool is still subpar, which is painfully obvious when you're burning from all the HE spam or god forbid you come across a well played Mogami. It is still slow which is a major pain in the [edited]for the unexperienced BB player, especially at T7 where it seems you'll get overtaken by an iceberg.

 

Colorado is now the most accurate US BB in the game, especially when compared to the New Mexico, which was unthinkable a couple of patches ago. Sure it sometimes still has derpy moments and it shoots the shells with such accuracy that you'd think it would be more accurate to put those shells into your nose and sneeze but most of the time its pretty consistent, even with range module and spotter plane activated.

 

Colorado's armor scheme is amazing. When angled it is a menace, capable of taking AP hits like there is no tomorrow, thanks to 343 mm of belt armor, which can also protect you when you need to make a full U turn to fall back, thus exposing your broadside.

 

Its AA compartment is terrifying. Fully upgraded it shreds planes like there is no tomorrow. Add a tight turning circle and fast rudder shift and you'll be making CV's life miserable.

 

I had 52k average damage in 35 games in my Colorado before it was buffed. Recently I've re bought it to see the effects of the changes. In 7 games, I've averaged 83k damage, which is really close to my Nagato (88k).

 

Overall, the Colorado is now a good ship, still slightly worse than Nagato due to its mediocre speed, low HP pool and sometimes wonky dispersion but overall its miles better than it was before and for me, personally, its miles better than North Carolina.

[MATREKUS]

Both good ships but different playstyle. I prefer Nagato but in t6 its New Mexico (though Fuso was also great).

But not to open new topic.

Whats your pick in t8? Amagi or Carolina? I cant decide really hehe

[Myrmix]

some say, north carolina is one of the best BB in the game, but i can't tell.

[B010011A]

Got some free xp to use cant decide on witch to advance to first Nagato or the big C

What you folks think?

I grinded to Izumo and loved how great the upgraded Nagato is ( stock is full crap). At the moment I am grinding Lolorado at almost full stock ( I only upgraded the speed, I have researched both Hulls) but wont spend a penny on anything. I prefered spending some money on getting Independence. 

Lolorado is a funny ship to play since ppl underestimate it ( like I did before). Btw, today an upgraded Lolorado citadelled my Izumo with 30K damage LEL. 

My suggestion is: grind both, Amagi is amazing and North Carolina too. You just will have to learn how to play differently in each nation's ship, which is possitive for you and every other player! 

[B010011A]

Yea, as the above say don't skip either of the 2 tier 6 BBs as they are both fantastic.  Enjoy your time with them.  And, you will need your free EXP to get the tier VII ships into better shape.  The Colorado particularly is a NIGHTMARE stock. Colorado needs B hull at least and probably propulsion to knock it into vaguely usable shape.  If you stick the FCS on there then you can grind out the C hull at your leisure.  The Nagato is a lot more usable stock but it doesn't hurt to get some of the upgrades as soon as you buy a ship. 

Im playing Lolorado almost full stock and dont find it crappy haha Nagato were way worse. I usually do an average of 60-90K per game with stock Lolorado xD

[Et_Lanatus_baro]

 

seconded! I'd say pretty much never use free XP to get to a new ship faster unless you really really dislike the preceding one (which was the case for me going from Yorck to Hipper, I never once regretted spending those 60k free XP!). Save your free XP to get out of the stock configuration (more important on some ships than on others, but generally a very very good idea on most Battleships, the two you're contemplating very much included).

 

Lol did exactly the same, Free Xp'd right theough the Yorck There was no way I could handle that grind lol

[Namolis]

Nagato.

[ammattimies]

Nagato. I've never even considered keeping Colorado, in fact, I hate Colorado.