Unbalanced on dd's ranked

[YersiniaPestisNor]

There are to many dd's in ranked atm. Not only that but also they put maybe 3-4 japanese on one team and then 4-5 american benson on the other team. The benson is to op. it has no weakness when facing a japanese dd. They turn guns fast, fast ship, fast shooting, and ok torpedo range if you think about conselment. And i cant see the fun in facing 3-4-5 dd's each match, not fun for anyone. maybe put a limit on them in ranked. max 2 in each match. I dont know what you think but its so crap to play atm. The fun is way gone.

[AgarwaenME]

It's incredibly amusing that you're crying that there's actually a counter to you in the battle. You should go have a chat with every BB exclusive players who keeps whining about IJN DDs. Then you'd be able to both whine against eachother, and in some way also whine in exactly the same fashion.

 

And no, the benson isn't in any way lacking in weaknesses when trying to fight off IJN DDs.

[YersiniaPestisNor]

You have not played ranked season 3 i see. So dont talk plz.

 

[GhiGuns]

He is saying its unbalanced that u shall meet 4 Ben on the other team, when his own team only have IJD DD. But balance the game is not the WG best side to the game.

[AgarwaenME]

You have not played ranked season 3 i see. So dont talk plz.

 

 

And you play it poorly, so who shouldn't be talking?

 

Oh, and in fact I have, just not much while I grind out an actual ship that actually decides battles in ranked.

[Zathras_Grimm]

There are to many dd's in ranked atm. Not only that but also they put maybe 3-4 japanese on one team and then 4-5 american benson on the other team. The benson is to op. it has no weakness when facing a japanese dd. They turn guns fast, fast ship, fast shooting, and ok torpedo range if you think about conselment. And i cant see the fun in facing 3-4-5 dd's each match, not fun for anyone. maybe put a limit on them in ranked. max 2 in each match. I dont know what you think but its so crap to play atm. The fun is way gone.

 

Is it the fact that there are too many DDs in ranked or that the DDs in ranked are not balanced correctly? (or both?).

 

To my mind the fact that there could be 5-6 DDs in each team during a game would not phase me (has not phased me); both teams have to deal with it. I have rarely seen drastic groups (i.e. all Torpedo Boats vs all Gun Boats). I have however seen 2 DDs vs 5 DDs and thought there could be trouble, but we actually won the match so it just goes to show it's about the team you're in.

 

 

So if it is about the number of particular ships in a game I would disagree, if it is about the composition of the teams then yes I wish that the games would have similar numbers (within one) of ships at the same class.

 

 

Sorry I don't play ranked but I don't see how that would alter feedback on this topic, whether I agree with your view or not? (The example you give about composition of teams does not just happen in ranked). Thank you.

[YersiniaPestisNor]

Yeah play porly. Thats it, who said i did. You! and you never seen me play.

Im rank 1 in world on torpedo kills

 

[Reaper171]

Yeah play porly. Thats it, who said i did. You! and you never seen me play.

Im rank 1 in world on torpedo kills

 

 

Not something to be proud of.

[Vanhal]

So, except all those irritating torpwalls you would also want IJN DD to fight on equal terms with US DD's?

Also, Benson is perfect example of WG balance politics - change something minor and some ship suddenly rose to the throne.

[YersiniaPestisNor]

No, i want them to mix on ranked battle. not put all japanese in one team and all benson in 1 team. Have you not seen that in ranked?

[YersiniaPestisNor]

 

Is it the fact that there are too many DDs in ranked or that the DDs in ranked are not balanced correctly? (or both?).

 

To my mind the fact that there could be 5-6 DDs in each team during a game would not phase me (has not phased me); both teams have to deal with it. I have rarely seen drastic groups (i.e. all Torpedo Boats vs all Gun Boats). I have however seen 2 DDs vs 5 DDs and thought there could be trouble, but we actually won the match so it just goes to show it's about the team you're in.

 

 

So if it is about the number of particular ships in a game I would disagree, if it is about the composition of the teams then yes I wish that the games would have similar numbers (within one) of ships at the same class.

 

 

Sorry I don't play ranked but I don't see how that would alter feedback on this topic, whether I agree with your view or not? (The example you give about composition of teams does not just happen in ranked). Thank you.

 

Its booth. Just think when you play and its 2bb 1cv and  4dd sometimes often 5 dd. Where is the fun in that.

[Arakus]

....Im rank 1 in world on torpedo kills

 

 

[YersiniaPestisNor]

Kids.

 

[AgarwaenME]

Kids.

 

 

And that's how we'll treat you until you behave like an adult.

[YersiniaPestisNor]

[Zathras_Grimm]

 

Its booth. Just think when you play and its 2bb 1cv and  4dd sometimes often 5 dd. Where is the fun in that.

 

Ok, that only equates to 7-8 ships but I will go with the numbers you give.

 

No that probably wouldn't be great for the BBs or the CA, but guess what, I have games where I am stopped from launching good torpedoes and doing the things I should be there to do, because of the circumstances of the game (it may be a better captain, aircraft highlighting me, good CAs, or a good team playing against us). However this doesn't happen every game.

 

 

If there are a lot of DDs in a game the best you can do is move to support your DDs and CAs; yes a BB in a support role, it does happen (and actually should happen). Wait for your DDs to win the battle but if they don't then understand the day was not yours. 

[sLendeR4skin]

I agree something needs to be done with the DDs in ranked battle. They need to be limited to 2 per side.

Get into a game with 4 dds with only one CA playing as a BB is huge disadvantage. No one to screen for you at all. Part of the problem is that no one plays in CAs anymore.

A huge majority or DD players are also unskilled and dont use there boats properly... im looking at you American DD capts, its not a torp boat.

[Vanhal]

No, i want them to mix on ranked battle. not put all japanese in one team and all benson in 1 team. Have you not seen that in ranked?

 

More importantly, i would prefer not to have over half of every team play in a DD.

[AgarwaenME]

I agree something needs to be done with the DDs in ranked battle. They need to be limited to 2 per side.

Get into a game with 4 dds with only one CA playing as a BB is huge disadvantage. No one to screen for you at all. Part of the problem is that no one plays in CAs anymore.

A huge majority or DD players are also unskilled and dont use there boats properly... im looking at you American DD capts, its not a torp boat.

 

Actually, what you should be asking for is a limit to BBs in a battle, not DDs.

[Zathras_Grimm]

Hate to say it but I have found the less DDs in a side the more chance a DD has of getting up close to launch. I would love there to be less DDs in a game (limited to 2-3 fine by me), it gives me more space to kill and less chance of being spotted.

 

The result is still the same, although I guess there are less frustrated BB captains who are peeved because they can't hit what they can't see (XP and all that). Must be hell when they are used to sniping at range at other large ships with a screen of friendlies between them and real danger(?) Although is it payback, as something similar happens when a DD is spotted and a BB opens up on it from across the map?

[sLendeR4skin]

 

Actually, what you should be asking for is a limit to BBs in a battle, not DDs.

 

Ive no problem with the BBs in ranked, 2 seems like a good number for them. 4 DDs is over the top, it wouldnt be such a problem maybe if the other team would have a balanced number as well... but ive played 2 vs 4 on both sides and it normally doesnt turn out well for the team with  only 2 DDS.

[RoyalColor]

I find that winning a match this season is too DD dependant. As a BB player, I feel I have a very little impact on the current ranked meta. It all boils down to the result of DD's knife fights and usually team whose DDs survived initial stages win the match.

[Zathras_Grimm]

I agree something needs to be done with the DDs in ranked battle. They need to be limited to 2 per side.

Get into a game with 4 dds with only one CA playing as a BB is huge disadvantage. No one to screen for you at all. Part of the problem is that no one plays in CAs anymore.

A huge majority or DD players are also unskilled and dont use there boats properly... im looking at you American DD capts, its not a torp boat.

 

I have never see a game with 1 CA in it (per team). In fact when there are CA captains quick to point out the 8 DDs in the game I am just as quick to point out the 8 CAs also.  Have a look yourself next time, it's true.

 

It may be that I am playing a tier V Minekaze so only go up to Tier VII ships? However, if you are reducing the DDs to 2 per side and the CAs primary role is DD hunting then should we not reduce the CA numbers to equal those they are supposed to hunt?

[anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER]

There are to many dd's in ranked atm. Not only that but also they put maybe 3-4 japanese on one team and then 4-5 american benson on the other team. The benson is to op. it has no weakness when facing a japanese dd. They turn guns fast, fast ship, fast shooting, and ok torpedo range if you think about conselment. And i cant see the fun in facing 3-4-5 dd's each match, not fun for anyone. maybe put a limit on them in ranked. max 2 in each match. I dont know what you think but its so crap to play atm. The fun is way gone.

 

I completely agree, the Benson is incredibly overpowered, i have seen many comments in team chat about the Benson being matched with IJN destroyers, The Fubuki Tier 8 (the same tier as the benson) cannot compete with the Benson in any way at all, the Fubuki is far inferior to the Benson yet same tier, anyone that argues otherwise is not being honest and probably a Benson player, so best keep it hush hush eh!!

[RoyalColor]

 

I completely agree, the Benson is incredibly overpowered, i have seen many comments in team chat about the Benson being matched with IJN destroyers, The Fubuki Tier 8 (the same tier as the benson) cannot compete with the Benson in any way at all, the Fubuki is far inferior to the Benson yet same tier, anyone that argues otherwise is not being honest and probably a Benson player, so best keep it hush hush eh!!

 

It's OP in ranked only. No one ever complained about it in randoms, coz there is usually enough firepower on the table to counter it. IMO nerfing it, or entire DD line is not the solution, as it will impact the randoms, where it performs just right. DD limitation to two per side perhaps?