Is "Ranked Battles" really worth it?

[Drigtol]

I have just had 5 Ranked Battles, with the result = Defeat in every one. To give an example of how these battles were lost, I give the case of a Green Teams Aircraft Carrier Captain, who decided to hide his ship in the direct path of the Red Team, so in the first minute of the battle starting, the Carrier ceased to exist. Even an idiot would (in my mind) follow the rest of the Green Team, even if he couldn't keep up, he would of been moving away from the Red Team and closer to assistance ...

 

Only losing 2 of my own ships, and again an example, almost all the Red Team targeted me, and a huge number of shells came my way, I of course firing back, but found it odd that I could only see my shells moving towards the targets, nothing from other players? Yep they were close by, but nothing? not a shot? They just cruised around?

 

Checking my reports each time, as I had been doing damage, and had sank some ships, with the "Re-Supply" and "Repair" even a "Fine" at one time, though I'd hit nothing friendly, add the "Defeat"(s), meaning no rewards, so far I'd say it's a waste of time ...

 

I was thinking of posting the replays on YouTube, but they would be a bit long, and have already been told off/reported for naming and shaming. Also, I don't think it would sell this game, which I think has potential!

[Kazomir]

Ranked battles are better since you have more input in your team's victory, unlike the cancer that is the random battles. (kill 7 enemies still lose the game no problem )

 

True there are some bad players playing rank but the good thing is that they are not allways in your team.

 

For reference my experience this season so far was with my Nicholas, 5 victories in a row where I did my part destroying enemy IJN destroyers, capping points and harassing the enemy, and giving some advice after being sunk once. (that the guy actually used and said I gave useful advice, which surprised me very much)

[Drigtol]

Ranked battles are better since you have more input in your team's victory, unlike the cancer that is the random battles. (kill 7 enemies still lose the game no problem )

 

True there are some bad players playing rank but the good thing is that they are not allways in your team.

 

For reference my experience this season so far was with my Nicholas, 5 victories in a row where I did my part destroying enemy IJN destroyers, capping points and harassing the enemy, and giving some advice after being sunk once. (that the guy actually used and said I gave useful advice, which surprised me very much)

 

I would of expected 1 win out of 5, we were winning one, but then, who knows?

[Trigger_Happy_Dad]

Go harder for the cap zones. ;)

 

Hard to do so in a BB, true - but if you lose the cap-points game it doesn't matter how much damage or how many kills you have in the end....

 

Imho (good) DDs decide most Ranked games.... ;) 

 

P.S. 21 knot max speed BBs are a bad choice for RB imho, they are just not flexible enough.

[CherryWood]

I have just had 5 Ranked Battles, with the result = Defeat in every one. To give an example of how these battles were lost, I give the case of a Green Teams Aircraft Carrier Captain, who decided to hide his ship in the direct path of the Red Team, so in the first minute of the battle starting, the Carrier ceased to exist. Even an idiot would (in my mind) follow the rest of the Green Team, even if he couldn't keep up, he would of been moving away from the Red Team and closer to assistance ...

Sounds more like suicide on purpose to let his friend in the enemy CV win. One player sitting on safe rank is trying to push the other one by dying fast - it's not hard do enter the same battle with two CVs due to strict MM for them.

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

1) Upload replay.

2) Ban them(the one that suicide).

[Drigtol]

And it continues to get more interesting ...

Not long had another "Ranked Battle" where Green Teams Virtual ships, hid behind mountains?

Shortly after, in another "Ranked Battle" I engaged in combat with my German Cruiser, 2 Red Team DDs, the first was in smoke, I fired my torps into, he returned torps, but missed, then the second showed up, so hit him, and hit him, and hit him, and hit him and hit him again, before he went into smoke ... hardly scratched him. Then the first showed up again, so I hit him, and hit him and hit him, and hit him, and hit him, with full broadside/all guns & HE, as I did with the other, again hardly causing any damage. Then I was hit by his forward facing Torpedos? So I've now nicknamed the Red Teams DDs as "Mini Battleships"

 

Funny though, my DDs get hit once or twice BANG ... Blub Blub Blub ...

Nearly forgot, the "Invisibility" cloaking device the Red Team has, where can I get it? No islands, No smoke, Not distance, BANG ... Blub Blub Blub ... Go's my ship

[Drigtol]

1) Upload replay.

2) Ban them(the one that suicide).

 

I like the game or better put, see a good future for it, and the documentary I'd do, wouldn't help the game one bit. They should change "Ranked Battle" into a individual achievement(s) rather than having to win a "Battle" ... it's Lazyness if u ask me.

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

There was similar case in wot with T22sr mission where lots of players rigged the battles(players from the same clan for an example) to complete the missions and get the tank faster. EU support banned some players and did some work to prevent players from future rigging those missions. I just don't understand how this game can work like that with no replays option, ranked games where there are +-1 tier and different class of ships per team and all those unfinished things. This game needs another year or more to get out of beta version. And then they can start concentrate on introducing proper ranked games and that stuff.

[KabiSVK]

hahaha, u reallly thing that WG ban some1? drem on 

[Cosseria]

Worth playing ranked? Not beyond the first league. The frustration when you did well but you lost all the same is just too strong.

[shyguybadman]

Hello,

 

I also had some initial problems with Ranked Battles, see my post:

 

 http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/41179-a-much-better-idea-for-ranked-battles/

 

Since then I have managed to progress, although i understand your frustration.

 

But I would say they are worth it imo. When you do manage to finally start getting somewhere you get rewards such as flags and free XP. Also, it is a good way to earn money to keep the larger tier ships in your personal fleet going! They start getting expensive tier 8 and up if you do not have a premium account and have rubbish battles. :p

 

[N00b32]

I don't know about ranked, in some cases I do not even understand why people go into ranked with T V ships. In other cases it is obviously an advantage like with the camo rating of dds. But why would you play ranked with a T V BB ? I just don't get it. 

[Lepr0n]

Hi guys and girls!

I did some adding up and wrote down some points this morning, to share with you why i play ranked.

 

- It is a perfect way to grind your Branches up to 9

- Matches are often shorter, and more intense than random

- You learn tactics and how to handle your ship in another way than in random

-As you (hopefully) progress, teamwork becomes more important, and players try harder to play as a team

 

And if you make it to rank 1, you will in the process have earned (NOT counting silver,achievements,xp and flags you get while playing), the following itams:

Things:

Premium: 24 hours
Free Xp: 3000
Silver: 13 000 000

Pirateflag
 

Signals:
10    Papa papa
285  India Bravo
70    India Yankee
70    India Delta
190  Equal Speed
120  Zulu
10    Victor Lima
160  Juliet Charlie
70    Juliet Yankee
160  Sierra Mike
10    November Foxtrot
160    Mike Yankee
=
1255 Signals

 

Camouflage:

120 Type 1 Camo
100 Type 2 Camo

100 Type 3 "ranked" Camo (additional xp, less visibility)

Have a nice weekend, and see you in battle!

ps. I might have made a minor error in adding up the flags, but it should be right.

[Admiral_noodle]

Worth it? Aren't we missing the point? Is it FUN? Well. Shorter games. Faster paced action. Sometimes more teamwork... I've decided to do ranked and entirely not focus on my rank. I'll focus on each game as it comes and ignore my rank. I'll never get to #1 anyway due to insufficient time, but I'll get XP, some nice rewards if I do rank up and it's a nice change to randoms.

[Frank_F_B]

I like it and I like the goodies you get when you move up the ranks. And yes it can be frustrating at times. like 8 losses in a row. But the rewards are good. 

[Kartoffelmos]

Maybe if you play battleships...

[66Schwifty]

True there are some bad players playing rank but the good thing is that they are not allways in your team.

 

well, two days ago I played a couple of RBs, and in the first game one of our players said (just before the start) - "XY don't run and hide behind islands!!!". XY being a North Carolina captain in our team. but that was exactly what XY did. he run away at the start of the game, hid himself behind some rocks/islands, and stayed there for the rest of the game. after the rest of us have been eliminated (and the enemy team held all caps) they (the enemy team) came for him. that's when he started to shoot, hit something, did some damage, but it was all kind of pointless. so we lost. the guy, who asked XY not to go hide, was raging through the whole game about XY, because he has already played a couple of games with XY, and every time it was the same scenario. start, run, hide, die, lose. I thought "yeah, sucks to be you, mate, you've got some tough luck". but, the horror, I met XY again in the next game. again in my team. the guy raging about him wasn't there, so his "lucky streak" has ended, but mine has just begun. for the next 7-8 games I had our good old XY in my team. same stuff (run, hide, die, lose) happening in all of them. couldn't take it any more after a couple of games, so I logged off, and was done with ships for the day. so sometimes it happens that you have bad players in your team all the time. especially if one of your teammates is myself..

[Foehamster419]

Maybe if you play battleships...

 

 

I don't really get that. There are so many battleships in the queue (whee I am one of them) that the game could give you battleship slugfest games around the clock... yet, whenever you click that ranked battle button, you spend 5 minutes waiting around for the matchmaker to find you a game with 2 battleships, 2 cruisers and 4875797 destroyers.

[Kartoffelmos]

Well, once I saw that screen, I promptly withdrew my ship from the queue (I still remember how "fun" it was to play in such games during the last season). An hour ago, I tried once more and the result was still the same. However, as you noted, I got into a balanced game with only two battleships per side. So either the screen is bugged at the moment, or there is quite a long time to wait for most battleship captains. Not sure which one is true, but I do know that the matchmaker will try to have only two battleships per side.

[Shaka_D]

I've just decided that I no longer go into a ranked battle until I see there are no CV's. If I see CV players in the lineup I simply exit the battle and wait until none are playing. Simple as that..too many torps dropping right alongside ships with no warning, simply pointless to play DD's when there are that many planes flying, simply not worth it at all. It ruins the game completely trying to avoid instatorps in a BB or trying to remain safe as a DD all the while trying to avoid getting hit by ships. So much worse at tier 8 ranked battles therefore I am opting for ranked battles only when no CV playing cowards are about.

[KaraMon]

You want to see worst possible players that exist? Go play ranked! Number of players that are not capable of doing tutorial without Youtube guide is too damn high.

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

I've just decided that I no longer go into a ranked battle until I see there are no CV's. If I see CV players in the lineup I simply exit the battle and wait until none are playing. Simple as that..too many torps dropping right alongside ships with no warning, simply pointless to play DD's when there are that many planes flying, simply not worth it at all. It ruins the game completely trying to avoid instatorps in a BB or trying to remain safe as a DD all the while trying to avoid getting hit by ships. So much worse at tier 8 ranked battles therefore I am opting for ranked battles only when no CV playing cowards are about.

 

I don't play BBs much because I've never gotten to grips with handling the problem of aircraft launched torpedoes.(1) Since I know other players who handle this problem quite well, I explain my own difficulties down to a lack of skill/experience on my part. (Some people blame carriers for being OP - but that is an entirely separate debate to the issues in this thread)

 

I suspect that you have similar difficulties and frustrations with carrier aircraft as I do when driving a Battleship. If so, then maybe you are right to avoid battles which have CVs because you will be far less useful to your team than in battles where there are no carriers. Though, there is the counter-argument that says that you should "play the hand that you are dealt".  It's not a black-and-white case IMHO.

 

However, I am disappointed by your use of the phrase "CV playing cowards". Was this just frustration boiling over, and a bit of letting off steam? How can CV captains be described as "cowards"? If they get so close to surface engagements that they get targetted and sunk then they are just bad captains, not heroes. They have to remain a safe distance. (I'd say it best to remain an "appropriate" distance from the fleet, not to far, not too close). The longer that they survive, the longer they can help the team. 

 

I know some CV captains that play other classes as well. When they play BBs they lead the attacks and take damage for the team. They could not be described as "cowards" by any stretch of the imagination.

 

BTW, I have never played CVs (you can check my records), so I am not defending CV captains from a position of vested interest.

 

(1) I really shouldn't be giving away all my secrets to potential opponents! 

[Foehamster419]

Well, once I saw that screen, I promptly withdrew my ship from the queue (I still remember how "fun" it was to play in such games during the last season). An hour ago, I tried once more and the result was still the same. However, as you noted, I got into a balanced game with only two battleships per side. So either the screen is bugged at the moment, or there is quite a long time to wait for most battleship captains. Not sure which one is true, but I do know that the matchmaker will try to have only two battleships per side.

 

Why can't the MM just give people what people want People want BB slugfests! Give them BB slugfests!

[Shaka_D]

I hate CV's, simple as that. They do for the game what arty does for Wot. They have potential, but the balance is out on them again, esp. wrt their torpedo dropping without warning right next to ships. My DD AA at most downs 1 plane..which makes me question why wargaming have the notion of making an 'upgraded' hull on a DD carry less guns but more AA...when in essence it very very seldom does anything to planes. Thats a serious downgrade to me, costing XP and credits for what? Trying to dodge 2 bomber squadrons and 2 torpedo squadrons at the same time is ludicrous and nigh on impossible. even when you try to turn, and now bombs seems to do even more damage. As you know DD's suffer from extreme module damage to engines, steering, and fires. One hit from a bomb recently took out 3 of my modules, steering, engine and torpedos and sets me on fire, even when I was evading like hell.

 

Second to this WG cannot seem to get anything right so the argument of 'it'll eventually work out' is moot and beyond redemption. First they nerf CV's to the point they're crap to play, now buff them to the point they are way too powerful again. They've had enough time already.

 

My point stands, no ranked battles if I see cv players in the line-up and lucky for me I'm not harming any team since the game would not have been formed yet. At tier 8 they're a little too OP for my liking and playing my DD in ranked battles is pointless since I'm spotted all the time. There is no safe place at all and now that WG have changed the cap zones to offer no safe cap area, we have to venture into the open on these tiny maps where smoke cover offers nothing in the way of a defence against being spotted by planes.

 

So nope, CV's may be fun for others to play, but this is one choice I will enjoy exercising to keep my peace of mind, and in my mind cowards they are and always will be. Just an opinion, take it or leave it.