[A-SLO] jure_eruj Players 235 posts Report post #1 Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) [edited] The idiotic idea that we need kills to progress through mission is the worst idea ever. I am busting my nuts with cleveland and konigsberg, trying to find and destroy DDs, and when i finally disable little pain in the [edited], the [edited] idiot who was trailing me kills it with a single salvo and steal my kill. The same idiot who missed all his shots if he even bother to shot at all because he was withholding his shot till the last second. I hope the next challenges will take in consideration damage caused, not just kills because this is getting [edited] ridiculous. Edited January 17, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. RogDodgeUK 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
albinbino Players 662 posts 11,080 battles Report post #2 Posted January 6, 2016 People always go for kills, mission or not, because it gives you more XP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrDane Beta Tester 170 posts 3,690 battles Report post #3 Posted January 6, 2016 Relax you got a long time to get it done, dont grind yourself to death. Grind a few matches and then move on to someting else, that is what I did, well do, about halfway on the 300 fires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,556 posts 1,924 battles Report post #4 Posted January 6, 2016 The mission have been out for 6 days, you got 2 entire months. You should be able to do it by just playing normally. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #5 Posted January 6, 2016 People always go for kills, mission or not, because it gives you more XP. It does not and only dumb people wait to finish off someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #6 Posted January 6, 2016 People always go for kills, mission or not, because it gives you more XP. Just another Urban Myth... damage gives XP. Capping gives XP. Shooting down planes gives XP. Kills might give a few XP, but way less than damage. And the two things to be said to all complainig about people "stealing their kills": There is NO kill stealing in WoWs - enemies are as dangerous with 1 hp as they are with 100% hp, so they have to sink! If you make damage, but someone else gets the kill learn to aim better and shoot faster! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-STR] Temid23 Players 21 posts 7,516 battles Report post #7 Posted January 6, 2016 Some ppl will hate me for this but: There is little good thing in this mission I can finally see CA focusing other CA and DD instead of ignoring them and going for easier to hit BB... Somehow after mission started this game looks much more like it should be (my opinion) But still agree there should be req dmg on CA/DD and not kills Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #8 Posted January 6, 2016 It does not and only dumb people wait to finish off someone. I seen a BB suicide eating a full volley of torps just to get the last DD kill ( game was already won though ). And yea I am struggeling, need 19 DD's but I stopped for not it's to frustrating. Every DD on low health is suddenly shot by literally everyone on the team in the few games I had with some DD's. Yes that as well, granted I don't play tier X but today I had 3 DD's max per game RNGezus doesn't <3 me no more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #9 Posted January 6, 2016 I seen a BB suicide eating a full volley of torps just to get the last DD kill ( game was already won though ). And yea I am struggeling, need 19 DD's but I stopped for not it's to frustrating. Every DD on low health is suddenly shot by literally everyone on the team in the few games I had with some DD's. Yes that as well, granted I don't play tier X but today I had 3 DD's max per game RNGezus doesn't <3 me no more I got a tip for you. Just play, forget about the mission and play normally. Works for me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A-SLO] jure_eruj Players 235 posts Report post #10 Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Just another Urban Myth... damage gives XP. Capping gives XP. Shooting down planes gives XP. Kills might give a few XP, but way less than damage. And the two things to be said to all complainig about people "stealing their kills": There is NO kill stealing in WoWs - enemies are as dangerous with 1 hp as they are with 100% hp, so they have to sink! If you make damage, but someone else gets the kill learn to aim better and shoot faster! 1. I know they have to sink, but the fact is i am one salvo away from sinking and some jackass who was hiding behind me all the time, saving his health and shots, destroy it in the time between my 2 salvos 2. Shoot faster? No crap, Sherlock. You perhaps noticed there are few seconds between shots, so actually even if i fire the moment my guns are ready there will ALWAYS BE FEW SECONDS I WHEN I CANNOT SHOOT! And in those few seconds camping [edited] comes out to play. AND THAT IS SO [edited] FRUSTRATING. Edited January 17, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #11 Posted January 6, 2016 I got a tip for you. Just play, forget about the mission and play normally. Works for me I'm impatient in a way I know, it will come on it's own. But DD's are my least engaged targets I think, well targets of opportunity ofc but I even in my CA's I don't actively hunt to kill them I am more playing to prevent my BB's from eating full salvo's while evading enemy BB shells and fighting with enemy CA's all at the same time Nah a day off will do me good, watching some series on my pc now and chatting a bit on skype/browsing forums. Back in the frying pan tomorrow, will probably even be streaming on twitch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #12 Posted January 6, 2016 I'm impatient in a way I know, it will come on it's own. But DD's are my least engaged targets I think, well targets of opportunity ofc but I even in my CA's I don't actively hunt to kill them I am more playing to prevent my BB's from eating full salvo's while evading enemy BB shells and fighting with enemy CA's all at the same time Nah a day off will do me good, watching some series on my pc now and chatting a bit on skype/browsing forums. Back in the frying pan tomorrow, will probably even be streaming on twitch Hehe, change of tactics then You will still help your BBs by targeting their DDs, but as I said, it is best to forget about the mission since you do have a lot of time to complete it. I just checked, I got 9 DDs killed without even knowing it, and since I have not been playing many battles lately I think its a good progress As they say: "Whatever floats your boat" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MAJOR] alkiap Alpha Tester 123 posts 12,451 battles Report post #13 Posted January 6, 2016 Fully agree that the goal is not very smart. I have been playing poorly, rushing in, focusing on enemy DDs while ignoring everything else, and I have been dieing far too often and far too fast. I actually stopped playing to get a break, the mission is simply stupid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #14 Posted January 6, 2016 The mission have been out for 6 days, you got 2 entire months. You should be able to do it by just playing normally. ^ This Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheJezna Beta Tester 790 posts 1,808 battles Report post #15 Posted January 6, 2016 If you play the game regularly it would seem pretty strange if you wouldn't have killed 30 DD's before the time is up without even thinking about it. Same with the other one that has you killing cruisers. The annoying part seems to be killing 150 planes or setting 300 fires which is the next part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,556 posts 1,924 battles Report post #16 Posted January 6, 2016 ^ This Not really upset. Sorry if you misunderstood it. What I meant was that there is plenty of time to do them, so no need to get up in arms over not being able to do it with the first 6 days. Just wanted to point out, that they should sit back, relax and just play the game like any other day. The missions will automaticly get done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #17 Posted January 6, 2016 Not really upset. Sorry if you misunderstood it. What I meant was that there is plenty of time to do them, so no need to get up in arms over not being able to do it with the first 6 days. Just wanted to point out, that they should sit back, relax and just play the game like any other day. The missions will automaticly get done. Yes, I understood and agree with you. The picture was directed towards the OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Gunship14 Players 850 posts Report post #18 Posted January 6, 2016 Why not try playing some SN or USN DDs to get the mission done? You might actually love the DD gunboat gameplay. I was grinding my mahan and, after a while, my benson, and the moment I got the 30 cruiser kills I needed just 3 more DD kills. Cruisers can kill DDs but, as you say, you're usually with a few other players who can steal your kill. With DDs, you're usually in a 1v1 against an enemy DD, further away from your fleet, and you shoot a lot faster (assuming USN or SN). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grouchy116 Sailing Hamster 331 posts Report post #19 Posted January 6, 2016 If you play the game regularly it would seem pretty strange if you wouldn't have killed 30 DD's before the time is up without even thinking about it. Same with the other one that has you killing cruisers. The annoying part seems to be killing 150 planes or setting 300 fires which is the next part. Indeed, if a player kills 3 DD's each day (s)he will finish that part in 10 days. That leaves around 48-49 days to finish the other part of the missions. I would say...plenty of time left. Want to get there faster; spawn a DD or bring your Atlanta, Cleveland, Mogami etc out of the port. That way i got the DD part done on Sunday. Regarding the 300 fires: lots of cruiser and destroyer play will do the job. No kill steal involved in this part or certain classes that a player needs to target. Find this part of the mission much more fun then hunting DD's And every disadvantage has an advantage. As a consequense of this mission i'm grinding the Yorck; 257 fires done. 43 to go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Varus Beta Tester 44 posts 2,519 battles Report post #20 Posted January 17, 2016 The only part of the challenges I'm worried about is the DD killing one. I don't get a huge amount of time to play and DDs are my least engaged ships so I do have to think about going to kill them. Cruisers were fine for the Kongo, the only difference to gameplay really was agreeing with teammates on comms who would get the final blow depending on who has what mission to complete. I still have 13 DD kills before I'll relax. To put it into perspective though the differences in difficulty I managed the cruiser kill mission and the aircraft kill mission (without playing as carriers) before taking out twenty DDs, with only a couple of games at tier 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironvos Beta Tester 62 posts 506 battles Report post #21 Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) 'Stealing' kills is really a double edged thing. Sometimes it's just an outright steal, but sometimes finishing off that one DD with a sliver of health left before it can launch it's last torps at your CV or BB is a game changer. Leaving enemies alive because you don't want to 'steal' when the game is still not decided is just a bad thing anyway. I'd say, don't focus on the missions, just play the game and you'll get them done eventually. They are still going for a month and a half so there's no rush. Edited January 17, 2016 by Ironvos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meneleus Players 596 posts 7,522 battles Report post #22 Posted January 17, 2016 Well, you not only need to sink destroyers, but you need to do it in a T6 ship. Has no-one pointed out to the OP that the destroyers sunk with the T5 Königsberg do not count towards the Myoko mission? Anyways, the requirement certainly requires patience. There are not many destroyers to go around and they tend to be a sneaky lot. I generally just played my regular games while keeping an eye out for destroyers, took a while but got them all. It is a bit like Pokemon in that regard. Now on track to get 300 fires. Will take a while, even repurchased the Cleveland to keep things going. Oddly enough, the last requirement of doing a million damage is very simple. The thing about this mission is that it essentially gives you a free ship. The missions probably take a lot of time to simulate the time you'd have to spend to unlock a regular ship. Cheers, M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #23 Posted January 17, 2016 Cleveland and Mogami for me for fires, even traded in my AFT on Cleve with Demolition expert ( and wow, suddenly Cleve feels like a normal CL which can actually hit stuff all the time ). Shame Marblehead isn't allowed, I hear it has OP fire starting capabilities Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #24 Posted January 17, 2016 Cleveland and Mogami for me for fires, even traded in my AFT on Cleve with Demolition expert ( and wow, suddenly Cleve feels like a normal CL which can actually hit stuff all the time ). Shame Marblehead isn't allowed, I hear it has OP fire starting capabilities What the difference`? The mortar gunarc comes only into play at ranges were you couldnt hit with the clev anyway. Id rather have some chance to hit over none at all ,-). Finished fires with AFT Cleve and MK. For the DDs with Clev and Blyskawica. Now just 650k damage to go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #25 Posted January 17, 2016 Well I always like to play at max range with CA so AFT cleve I tended to play at to long range to have a good feedback on my shells so my hit ratio tanked a lot. Now I thought: let's swap AFT for Demolition, and I did, and I'm not sad I done it either. I know you have some still effective range with AFT but I'm not missing it that much atm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites