Ungrateful people that just don't compliment

[Stugga]

There were many games that I played extraordinary and I got no compliments (not that it means anything but hey.... it shows the true colors of the playerbase....). I was ok with it cuz I didn't do anything of great altruism or w/e and maybe people just don't compliment on "good game" or "good player". I accepted that.

 

However, I just had a game with my Myoko (t7 Jap cruiser). We played at the 2 Brothers map (map with 2 big islands in the middle and ships go either east or west). Well, even though all our (3) BBs spawned west.... guess what, all cruisers and DDs went east. So knowing our BBs would just die from enemy DDs (4 DDs at that!!), I decided to escort them, even though I could have joined the bandwagon for some easy, safe in the crowd (since I'm a cruiser and all) dmg.

 

And guess what again, as soon as the enemy carrier planes spotted our BBs west, it wasn't soon after that 3 out of 4 enemy DDs came our way. Once I spotted a couple of them, I decided to hunt them head on, non-stop, the only way to keep them in safe distance from our BBs, instead of -again- playing it more safe and stay close to the BBs just shooting pot-shots when/if they got spotted occasionally by the ships or my spot plane. It was the only way to give some time to our BBs to advance and push long enough so they also start shooting at the enemy ships from behind (around the island).

 

I chased those DDs for the entire game, keeping our BBs a safe good distance (>10km) behind me. I dodged 100s of torps (t5-7 DDs, fast reload). At the end, I even reached the enemy carrier so I also had to dodge his 2x DBs and 2x TBs for a good 2-3 "runs". Needless to say, dodging 100s of torps all game, frantically evading left right while still maintaining some good speed so as to not lose them between my hydro and spot plane that I enabled in turns, (or our BBs "catch up" within torp distance), while Myoko having painfully slow turning turrets.... well, I didn't do much dmg.......less than 15k....., They were even cross-firing their torps (like carriers do with their torp planes), once they saw I was evading them successfully at first...I almost died 20+ times... I barely had enough HP at the end to "live to tell the story"... *laughs*

 

This thing worked though, we killed everybody easy. An easy victory for everybody, except the "hero" who spent 17 mins in true agony and got no XP/credits for it.

 

And guess what again?? - Not even a compliment report, heck, not even a "gg Stugga" in chat. Nothing......

 

So I wonder, is this the playerbase? Bunch of ungrateful ppl that only think of themselves? And if so, I wonder, why, oh why should I do it ever again??

 

/rant off

[Kenliero]

You should not assume response from one specific game. People get nothing from complimenting you. Complimenting someone in a game is about "someone being in exceptionally good mood and clicking a compliment". It is rare

 

[Stugga]

You should not assume response from one specific game. People get nothing from complimenting you. Complimenting someone in a game is about "someone being in exceptionally good mood and clicking a compliment". It is rare

 

 

Yeah, I know mate, it was just a rant....

[Babykim]

Why do you even care about your Karma? Whenever I get +1, I try must best to drop back to 0. The whole idea of Karma is preposterous and childish. It is simply not a relevant statistic.

[ilhilh]

Why do you even care about your Karma? Whenever I get +1, I try must best to drop back to 0. The whole idea of Karma is preposterous and childish. It is simply not a relevant statistic.

 

If it isn't relevant why would you spend time trying to keep it at 0?

[Babykim]

 

If it isn't relevant why would you spend time trying to keep it at 0?

 

This how I try to sabotage the idea.

[Sciurus]

And you think that the majority of braindead BB Players noticed what you did for them. I guess they didnt

 

[ShockPirat]

Average players aren't even aware of the angle of their ship so they get oneshotted, of approaching planes so they get oneshotted, they tunnelvision in their scope and don't notice a DD 4 km away so they get oneshotted...

 

Are you seriously expecting them to notice some lonley cruiser on opposite end of the map is dodging torps so they don't have to?

 

[Bulrim]

If you're 10km+ away from the BB then to most people you would have looked like that guy who runs ahead of everyone else with a death wish and then complains about the team when he dies.

[Kenliero]

Why do you even care about your Karma? Whenever I get +1, I try must best to drop back to 0. The whole idea of Karma is preposterous and childish. It is simply not a relevant statistic.

And at the same time it is the most important one for human race. Everything else is just pointless and will disappear with the game, but being friendly and helping others shapes better future for everyone involved. Having a goal to be more helpful means a lot more for humanity, than your "ap damage".

[Stugga]

Are you seriously expecting them to notice some lonley cruiser on opposite end of the map is dodging torps so they don't have to?

 

Nop, not them, but at least the 3 BBs I risked everything to keep safe... I would expect, yep.

[Babykim]

And at the same time it is the most important one for human race. Everything else is just pointless and will disappear with the game, but being friendly and helping others shapes better future for everyone involved. Having a goal to be more helpful means a lot more for humanity, than your "ap damage".

 

The sole objective of this game is to win. How you do it, does not matter.

[Kenliero]

 

The sole objective of this game is to win. How you do it, does not matter.

How you do, is the only thing that matters, just like in everything.

[ParEx]

As I exspected.

I would change the system to a point like we have here in the forum or elsewhere: you cant just spread (-), you have to give some compliments (+) in order to give away the next (-).

That way you have to think and you are forced to compliment someone before raging again.

[N00b32]

 

I complement if I see something exceptional or something so extraordinary stupid I rage about. In later case I compliment the best player on my team for not behaving like team awesome. You know that team awesome you get once in a while where half of the team dies within 3 minutes, because reasons.

 

But I have given upon chat totally. I tend to do what people ask me in chat if it is not stupid, but I never report or compliment for chat behaviour. People just do what thyz do, even if you can see the problem minutes ahead and tell them.

 

[Stugga]

If you're 10km+ away from the BB then to most people you would have looked like that guy who runs ahead of everyone else with a death wish and then complains about the team when he dies.

 

I was keeping the DDs at 10+km distance from our BBs (I was inbetween). That is "outside of torp range". ie I was chasing a DD but if some other decided to not go after me but go after the BBs, I would chase it instead, making it retreat and re-focus on me etc... so that all 3 DDs are 10+km from our BBs... - this is what I meant by "keeping our BBs at safe torp distance".

[genai]

 

The sole objective of this game is to win. How you do it, does not matter.

 

The sole objective is to get credits and xp while having fun! Winning is just a bonus... a 50% bonus

[SeaWolf7]

They were probably totally oblivious to all your dodging and in game heroics because at that distance even if they did bother to look they prob couldn't see the torps that you were avoiding....to other players it just looks like you were swerving all over the place like a pissed captain at the wheel and if there was no in game communication how would any one know?

 

 

[Aldramelech]

This whole karma idea is just plain stupid anyway and it isn't going to work, anybody who has any experience in Customer services and particularly in training customer service knows that people are more naturally inclined to complain then they are to complement. That is a well researched fact.

 

So the net effect of this will be for people to steadily build up a portfolio of complaints, no matter how well they play or how well behaved they are in game.

 

What worries me about the whole thing is the little hints WG keep dropping about this system being "used" in some way.

 

 

[ColonelPete]

You cannot demand compliments. If you play well, you get them over time.

[Syrchalis]

I constantly get bad karma for killing people in my CV (without dumb comments from me or anything to deserve it).

 

Yet somehow my Karma is +5, dunno apparently some people just like to give points sometimes?

[Sake78]

I can`t be arsed. honestly. I see no point to it, therefore I act as if it doesn`t exist.

 

Now, what you COULD complain about is how WG found the time to add Cartoon Network ships, but forgot to add on their page the announcement for ranked season, seeing how .ru and .com have done so already. There are far more important things to complain about - real things.

[Cosseria]

 

 

What worries me about the whole thing is the little hints WG keep dropping about this system being "used" in some way.

 

 

This. I'm experimenting at behaving like a fine school pupil, no more sarcasm in chat, I cheer deserving opponents, I play as good as usual and my karma is stuck at 0. And if this thing is going to be linked in some ways to any kind of benefit or penalty, it will become a weapon in the hands of those who report you because you've killed them. And it will cause a riot, too.

[ilhilh]

Is there no way to see what it is out of game?

 

No idea what mine will be.  I try hard, am certainly above your average player and I compliment people both in game (time permitting) and with the report/compliment system.  But, it can be hard spotting good play if it isn't that close to you.

 

On the other hand, I don't always keep quiet when I feel I have been let down which I expect will earn me the odd negative report.  I know I shouldn't... but in the heat of the moment it is how I deal with things.  Also I can sometimes try and get people to follow more if there is an opening on a flank and some people just don't respond well to being told to do something.  I really don't think this system is going to change my behaviour though because I don't care enough about this random value enough.

[t3h3th32]

You should not assume response from one specific game. People get nothing from complimenting you. Complimenting someone in a game is about "someone being in exceptionally good mood and clicking a compliment". It is rare

 

 

Exactly this. Not even that, but I think, a decent percentage of the playerbase doesn't even know, there is such function. This is why it's crucial to implement this info into the tutorial introductory missions and not only that, throw some info about it in the loading screen. That's the first step.

 

Second step is, apologies for the word, but it's absolutely moronic system having it only in the score / leaderboard. There should be an F-key for that, you directly target someone in the game: "Thank you for your brave assist.", bam, it's done. Not like an idiot pressing TAB, then looking for the guy with the weird name, clicking again, selecting "Compliments", selecting another option like "Played very well", etc. I know, it's only 3 or 4 clicks away, but dude, it's 2016, average time people spend on YouTube clip is like 2 minutes and in fast-paced game like this one, every precious second matters, so nobody will waste even those damn 20 seconds to go and look for this option at the first place.

 

Cheers,

~t3h'Pâr4d0x