[-TNT-] mrak1979 Beta Tester 476 posts 9,012 battles Report post #176 Posted October 13, 2016 Well Mogami seems to be recieving a couple of buffs. Firing arc of 2nd starboard torpedo tube is extended by 10 °. Now, all four torpedo tubes have the same firing arc. Firing arc of 1st turret is extended from ±145° to ±150°. Firing arc of 2nd turret is extended from ±148° to ±149°, and front locking (blocked by 1st turret) is reduced from ±20° to ±13°. Firing arc of 4th turret is extended from ±140° to ±145°. On top of that, this was changed. The buff is only related to 203mm guns. Im very happy with that because it was signifficant drawback of the Mogami compare with Atagao, Myoko and Ibuki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #177 Posted October 13, 2016 Well Mogami seems to be recieving a couple of buffs. Firing arc of 2nd starboard torpedo tube is extended by 10 °. Now, all four torpedo tubes have the same firing arc. Firing arc of 1st turret is extended from ±145° to ±150°. Firing arc of 2nd turret is extended from ±148° to ±149°, and front locking (blocked by 1st turret) is reduced from ±20° to ±13°. Firing arc of 4th turret is extended from ±140° to ±145°. On top of that, this was changed. One of the buffs being to morph into a US cruiser, by the look of things? [confused] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fysman Players 21 posts 7,250 battles Report post #178 Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) Mogami sucks, plain and simple. It's not so much one thing, but many small things that make it crap. It's gonna dissapear from t8 matches completely(other than Zao grinding) when ARP Takao becomes avalible. Only way for it to be viable again would be if WG increased the range(to say 16,5 or something) and remove the 203 guns while buffing the turret traverse for 155's. The game has changed alot since the Mogami was considered OP back in the day with the 18+ km range and 155's not having sucky traverse speed.... Edited October 13, 2016 by Fysman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diminios Players 324 posts 3,103 battles Report post #179 Posted October 13, 2016 The buff is only related to 203mm guns. Im very happy with that because it was signifficant drawback of the Mogami compare with Atagao, Myoko and Ibuki. Are you sure it's not for 155s as well? (asking, because I don't have the Mogami yet and can't tell any difference) One of the buffs being to morph into a US cruiser, by the look of things? [confused] How else can it gain (back) some relevance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guillotine ∞ Players 401 posts 7,897 battles Report post #180 Posted October 13, 2016 Its for 203mm only theres images on reddit post comparing old and new angles and it shows 155's hasnt changed. Still seems ill just sell myoko and find something else to buy isntead mogami. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #181 Posted October 13, 2016 Mogami still isn't that terribru. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #182 Posted October 13, 2016 Stat wise the differences between Mogami with 203mm and Atago are so minimal as to be irrelevant. Of course heal is the game changer here but assuming ARP Takao doesn't get it, and why should it, there is no reason she would be suddenly stronger than Mogami so much as to make her irrelevant. Or put another way, if you're hating on Mogami and expecting ARP Takao to be OP I have some seriously bad news for you. Put another-nother way, it's perfectly possible to play a very successful Atago game without using the heal. In fact it's more of a safety net, you don't Yolo-around thinking "it's OK I can repair that" because you're still a cruiser, you'll just get deleted. So if you play Mogami the same as Atago most of the time you'll do just as well. So where does the hate come from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #183 Posted October 13, 2016 So where does the hate come from? I think that a lot of people are disappointed that there is only a slight improvement in stats from a 203mm Myoko to a 203mm Mogami, but you get worse matchmaking. It's almost like you are just continuing the Myoko grind (fine ship though it undoubtedly is), but in less favourable circumstances. PS - just saying, but don't forget that you get much better Torpedo firing arcs in Atago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TNT-] mrak1979 Beta Tester 476 posts 9,012 battles Report post #184 Posted October 13, 2016 What Ive said Atago has better firing angels so you can stay more angled and fire all guns. Is much easier to avoid shots and the heal give you a lot more survivabilty. While you get some citadel you can take back some HP. In other cruisers you are punished very hard for a mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guillotine ∞ Players 401 posts 7,897 battles Report post #185 Posted October 15, 2016 After handfull of games in stock mogami and unlocked range upgrade, it feels lacking in terms of range. 15km range is not ok at tier 8, yes had 1 amazing ranked game where i did 140k+ dmg without even modules to improve the performance. Way to fix this ship is to give small range upgrade to 155's ( 400-600m ) and bigger to 203mm, this would give players choise and make the massive citadell smaller target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites