IJN Mogami

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day

 

 

+ 1 anyway!  

[TheodorosK]

In regards with the Citadel of the Mogami.

I went to the training room just now and I did some test there.

The Bridge Cone before the funnel is very easy to bit hit and takes away a huge chunk of HP when a hit strike there from ANY angle.

Now on the waterline from the end of Turret 3 all the way to Turret 4 that's Citadel City there and that's about the 55% of the ship's length.

WG needs to revise this ASAP, because any large calliber shell that lands anywhere near the bow or the aft is register as a Citadel hit scoring over 15k damage.

[Thunderslap91]

I buy the 203mm to try it on live since the 155 wil be garbage, worse rotation then fuso -.-, and i can only say this Forget this hip, u have no range 15.1km its nothing to tier 8, u can't chase, because even a myoko is faster then u, and good luck with the citadels, any angle hit even from 203mm its a citadel, i mean she is a heavy cruiser but can't tank 203mm at all, every hit rip turrent even the 203 that was supose to have more armor, i agree the ship need a revise asap,

 

PS: what is good about having a nice concealment if u can't get close because citadel city.... or disengage because citadel city from every possible angle.

[Tyrendian89]

well, I'll be using 0.5.3 as my excuse to finally upgrade to Ibuki... didn't see any real reason for it before, since there just didn't seem to be enough advantages for me to justify worse matchmaking and repair costs - but that's about to change...

[silence5]

Just save the statistics for the mogami today. And watch the numbers plummet over the next month. 
We can all agree that mogami got hit hard with the nerf hammer... again. Its just that this time, its completely over the top nerfs that will make it a useless ship.

I won't sell mine ... since I have too many credits already invested in her. I will try to find another way to make use of her.

[Marlekin]

Just read the oncoming patchnotes. Still on the Myoko, this might be a good time to switch cruiser lines. 

[TheodorosK]

0.5.3.0 is here.

OMG.

My 13 skills Captain sits idly by the Mogami.

I have no idea how to move on from this stage and quite obvious that 203's is the only way forward for her.

The spread of the skills leads nowhere, and it feels like I be fish food ingame.

And as soon they see Mogami on the MM they will be rubbing their hands.

She will stay docked for now, as is not even worth the bill to play her or the frustration.

[havaduck]

Fun fact: Mogami WITH EM and turns its turrets freaking 3 seconds faster than Colorado WITHOUT. Take a wild guess who wins the clock arms race if both get to use EM?

 

 

 

She will stay docked for now, as is not even worth the bill to play her or the frustration.

 

I finished the grinds so a soon as I need creds or a port slut this pos will have to go.

[Thunderslap91]

0.5.3.0 is here.

OMG.

My 13 skills Captain sits idly by the Mogami.

I have no idea how to move on from this stage and quite obvious that 203's is the only way forward for her.

The spread of the skills leads nowhere, and it feels like I be fish food ingame.

And as soon they see Mogami on the MM they will be rubbing their hands.

She will stay docked for now, as is not even worth the bill to play her or the frustration.

 

Agree mogami its to weak now, she can't fight tier 8+ because lack of range and huge citadel and ur AA its just not there, and can't proper fight t7 that outrange, outguns and ourspeed u and  outAA u.... so its crap now.

Ps: if the realy gonna increse the range on the mogami and reduze on the myoko they will blow 2 ship in 1 nerf...

[Comrad_StaIin]

it isnt too bad to nerf Myoko a it is overperforming

[Taffus]

This is ship is garbage right now. Only meant to go through the grind pain and drive you into exchanging credits. Cant think of any other reason why to nerf this ship so badly, or not compensate it for the ca changes.

[mrak1979]

I will be satisfied if they roll back changes fro 0.5.1 and return traverse speed of 155mm to 40s/180 degree and damge of the turrets. It will be enought to make 155mm viable option and it didnt made Mogami OP. Myoko is maybe still too strong for tier 7. The range help you burn out BBs pretty easily and armor is still strong enought if angled to fight cruisers confortably.

[22cm]

Finished the Ibuki grind on 17th,  before the patch,  and sold it.  It will be crap unless they rebalance it. 

[mrak1979]

I have to try the unplayable Mogami and I have got 2 nice battles first is with 155mm setup at lower tiers from 6 to 8. Quit good game:-) nad second battle among tier 10 with 203mm guns again very good result:-)

 

Cheers:-)

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

I have to try the unplayable Mogami and I have got 2 nice battles first is with 155mm setup at lower tiers from 6 to 8. Quit good game:-) nad second battle among tier 10 with 203mm guns again very good result:-)

 

Cheers:-)

 

Yes - and well played!

 

However, you are a good player, and you know your Japanese cruisers. You have every one up to Zao, and play well in all of them

And you have good experience in Mogami (170 battles) and obtain higher than average damage with it.   (Yes, another salute, but you deserve it)

 

Good players such as yourself can cope much better with  these 0.5.3 nerfs. Average players, especially those just starting the grind, are going to be hit hard.

[22cm]

I have to try the unplayable Mogami and I have got 2 nice battles first is with 155mm setup at lower tiers from 6 to 8. Quit good game:-) nad second battle among tier 10 with 203mm guns again very good result:-)

 

Cheers:-)

 

Nobody said it s unplayable, but right now firing HE Atago with the 20 cm and Kutuzov with the 15 cm  are both better than Mogami, so why keep an occupied slot?.

[Thunderslap91]

I just give up, from my best ship to worse one. u always get t9/10 matches, 15.1km its nothing, and every hit citadel u, this is realy to make player buy the mikhail or the atago, right now mogami its unplayble, realy bad shell speed and low pene with 203, for my expirience the 203 from myoko are faster shell speed and alot better penetration.

 

i will come back for him, if there buff her or making her a proper heavy cruiser and not a damm light cruiser /citadel magnet.

[bloodynicknames]

just moved on to the mogami from the myoko and at first i thought the range was some kinda joke...then i saw the pitiful increase with mods ... wtf is this ? if i approach a tirpitz head on he can get 2 full salvos in before i even can return fire ... if he kites a whole lot more than that...not even talking about geting citaled left and right.

i really do get the feeling that they're trying to push the Atago here ... and like it or not having the only 2 viable ships in a tier(no the New Orleans is not viable...ive been through that) being store ships, thats P2W

[mrak1979]

I just give up, from my best ship to worse one. u always get t9/10 matches, 15.1km its nothing, and every hit citadel u, this is realy to make player buy the mikhail or the atago, right now mogami its unplayble, realy bad shell speed and low pene with 203, for my expirience the 203 from myoko are faster shell speed and alot better penetration.

 

i will come back for him, if there buff her or making her a proper heavy cruiser and not a damm light cruiser /citadel magnet.

 

They have absolutely same guns but in Mogami you meet higher tiers more often thats the change. Mogami has realy bad times on high tiers. You have to stick with team and try be sneaky as much as you can! Direct engagment is hopeless!

[Ton0kki]

I have to try the unplayable Mogami and I have got 2 nice battles first is with 155mm setup at lower tiers from 6 to 8. Quit good game:-) nad second battle among tier 10 with 203mm guns again very good result:-)

 

Cheers:-)

 

Yeah, I also played few games with new Mogami and had nice results. However, it doesn't make it a good ship. I'm quite experienced with IJN cruisers and I have 15 point captain so I can abuse it's only strength, 9.3km detection range. Still, range of both guns is poor for t8, turret rotation of 155mm guns is abysmal (it was nerfed due to captain skill but funnily enough, it was not changed back) and somehow the rate of fire of Mogami's 203mm guns is worse than Myoko's.

 

Mogami will be huge pain for new players to grind. It would be fine if they increased it's range a bit (of both guns), changed turret rotation of 155mm to 30s (as well) and increased rate of fire of 203mm guns to same level as Myoko's. It would not make it OP in any way and both guns would be a real choice.

[mrak1979]

 

Yeah, I also played few games with new Mogami and had nice results. However, it doesn't make it a good ship. I'm quite experienced with IJN cruisers and I have 15 point captain so I can abuse it's only strength, 9.3km detection range. Still, range of both guns is poor for t8, turret rotation of 155mm guns is abysmal (it was nerfed due to captain skill but funnily enough, it was not changed back) and somehow the rate of fire of Mogami's 203mm guns is worse than Myoko's.

 

Mogami will be huge pain for new players to grind. It would be fine if they increased it's range a bit (of both guns), changed turret rotation of 155mm to 30s (as well) and increased rate of fire of 203mm guns to same level as Myoko's. It would not make it OP in any way and both guns would be a real choice.

 

Yes you are right for most players will be grind! It will be fair if they return the ship to the level before all those nerfs because they followed buff provided by AFT. As I told before WG messed it when swap Mogmi with Myoko and dont made appropriate adjustment and then made AFT and BFT suitable for primary guns up to 155mm (before was only for secondary and AA)

[KPblCOB]

is the Mogami really that bad compared to the Atago?

She seems to have only 700m less (15,1 vs 15,8 km)  range and +5 sec turret turning (30 vs 25 sec)

but equiped with 203mm she still can fire a potential 49500 damage/salvo with HE which is 50% more than the Atago, no?

I agree that the range isnt enough for higher tiers, but if strictly compared to the Atago, how is the Mogami worse?

(real question guys)

[Ton0kki]

is the Mogami really that bad compared to the Atago?

She seems to have only 700m less (15,1 vs 15,8 km)  range and +5 sec turret turning (30 vs 25 sec)

but equiped with 203mm she still can fire a potential 49500 damage/salvo with HE which is 50% more than the Atago, no?

I agree that the range isnt enough for higher tiers, but if strictly compared to the Atago, how is the Mogami worse?

(real question guys)

 

What? Atago also has 203mm guns. It also has better torpedo arcs, more hp and same heal ability as t9-10 cruisers.

[Thunderslap91]

 

What? Atago also has 203mm guns. It also has better torpedo arcs, more hp and same heal ability as t9-10 cruisers.

 

let me complete if u don't mind,

Atago still got better concealment and speed, and i think a bit better  AA.

[Poster_2015]

No Atago actually has the worst AA of all t8 cruisers, its far worse then Mogami. It has slightly better concealment (0.2 km range - but if using A hull it can actually invisifire pretty well - 13.2 km or so range) . Also Im not sure why people dismiss 155mm guns suddenly. They have worse turret turn rate, but they still perform better. 90 shells/min vs roughly 40 203mm Shells, gives both better HE and AP damage. Yes 155mm Mogami guns at close distance can easily citadel other cruisers with AP. I played Mogami with 155mm guns before the patch and NO range (when i used Atago captain), and I never really missed it. Atago of course wins due to better torps and repair, but the guns actually STILL go in Mogamis favor.