Gremyashchy: Will it ever be on sale again?

[Cor3y]

as written in the title, does enyone know if the Grem will ever be on sale or if it was an exclusive like the Arkansas or the Iwaki?

[th3freakie]

God no. My pretty exclusive little beauty of a killing-machine. It's mine, just mine, you can't have it.

 

Now, if the Imperator Nikolai I would get back on sale, that would be precious. 

[LilJumpa]

Sims, Gremy and Yubari are supposed to be exclusive for 1 Year after release (or start of the OBT?)

 

So look for them being sold again in summer earliest.

[Tyrendian89]

Now, if the Imperator Nikolai I would get back on sale, that would be precious. 

 

ummm... it is? right now?

[Verdius]

God no. My pretty exclusive little beauty of a killing-machine. It's mine, just mine, you can't have it.

 

Now, if the Imperator Nikolai I would get back on sale, that would be precious. 

 

Tier 4 BB Impregnator Nikolai is for sale right now, in a bundle with premium time and doubloons and for the same price as tier 7 Blyskawica ofc because WG.

[Cor3y]

Sims, Gremy and Yubari are supposed to be exclusive for 1 Year after release (or start of the OBT?)

 

So look for them being sold again in summer earliest.

 

Thank you all for the answer... i'm really interested in the Gremy, and maybe even the Sims... but i heard the sims is pretty trash!

 

and yep, the Imperator is back on sale, and is a pretty interesting ship!

[mtm78]

I can recommend both Gremmy when she is back in store and the Imperator, both are very stronk ships which will bring you many moments off awesomesaus!

[th3freakie]

Ah, goshdarnit, looked at ships, forgot about the bundles. Thank you, guys.

 

*checks store*

 

...and it's a silly price for the ship. I shan't buy it in these conditions. Poor show, WG.

[th3freakie]

And yes, on a more serious tone, the Gremyashchy is my absolute favorite ship in this game.

 

• It looks sexy like a Victoria's secret model.
• It moves like a Bolshoi Ballerina.
• It shoots like a Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture (it citadels cruisers!).
• It looks beautiful like a painting at the Tretyakovskaya Gallery.
• It accelerates like inflation in 90's Russia.
• It has torpedos with the range of an FSB polonium injection .
• It looks glorious like Sweet Victorious Mother Russia.
• Did I mention it looks great?

 

My stats with it are terrible, but that's entirely my fault. I get so exited sailing it I become overly aggressive and get myself into impossible situations - and it still survives those occasionally! 

[xCaptainObviousx]

If you're gonna go for one of the pre-order ships, the Gremy is the best option. The other two ships are bad to mediocre at best.

 

The Sims is a Benson with less hp, no AA and completely useless torpedoes.

 

The Yubari is a bit unique by having the AA barrage consumable (1 charge) and strong AA over all, but it's stuck with only 4 140 mm guns with the lowest RoF of any 140 mm version and the Mutsuki's stock torps with an EXTREMELY narrow launch arch (think the Aoba, but cut it in half). It's also got the durability of a DD, both in terms of module durability and raw HP. If you're looking for something to tag along with your buddy's t4-5 BB for air cover, the Yubari's your ship.

[Cor3y]

Imperator is good, i can confirm. For what regards the yubari i'll probably pass. got the BB for tier4 games.

 

thx for the info on the sims, but i really miss an US premium for captain retraining! The 500 gold toll is pretty high,  and the Atlanta has a too narrow use for my taste!

Th3freaky sure the grem is sexy, it is an italian design :-)

[XTHD]

They should at least bring Gremyaschy down to Gnevny level, as right now it would be straight up pay to win, having received none of the nerfs that the entire VMF line got hit by.

[xCaptainObviousx]

They should at least bring Gremyaschy down to Gnevny level, as right now it would be straight up pay to win, having received none of the nerfs that the entire VMF line got hit by.

 

The Gremy's average damage is lower than the Minekaze's DESPITE only being used by experienced players. I don't think it's particularly overpowered but that the Gnevney and Nicholas are slightly underpowered for their tier.

 

Warships.today stats

 

 

[th3freakie]

They should at least bring Gremyaschy down to Gnevny level, as right now it would be straight up pay to win, having received none of the nerfs that the entire VMF line got hit by.

 

How about we don't do that at all, ever, jamais, никогда?

 

The Gnevny (I also have one) is ok as it is, but it's not the same, and shouldn't be. Besides, major-nerfing premiums is a big no-no. They already got burned doing it to the Sims and 'Tlanta, let's not go down that hellish path again.

[EsaTuunanen]

Sims, Gremy and Yubari are supposed to be exclusive for 1 Year after release (or start of the OBT?)

That was guaranteed exclusivity period, not guaranteed return to shop time.

With very high "destruction&mayhem" ceiling of Gremlin I wouldn't wonder if WG doesn't want it to become widespread.

Though full mastering is very demanding. I rarely see other Gremy of the match doing excellent.

 

 

God no. My pretty exclusive little beauty of a killing-machine. It's mine, just mine, you can't have it.

You have yet no idea about its capabilities...

 

 

The Yubari is a bit unique...

It's also got the durability of a DD

I disagree about Yubari being DD flimsy.

It actually has some armor: 130mm AP doesn't overpen it...

Unless you aim/hit standard thickness/"tinfoil" armored parts.

[Vanhal]

And yes, on a more serious tone, the Gremyashchy is my absolute favorite ship in this game.

 

• It looks sexy like a Victoria's secret model.
• It moves like a Bolshoi Ballerina.
• It shoots like a Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture (it citadels cruisers!).
• It looks beautiful like a painting at the Tretyakovskaya Gallery.
• It accelerates like inflation in 90's Russia.
• It has torpedos with the range of an FSB polonium injection .
• It looks glorious like Sweet Victorious Mother Russia.
• Did I mention it looks great?

 

My stats with it are terrible, but that's entirely my fault. I get so exited sailing it I become overly aggressive and get myself into impossible situations - and it still survives those occasionally! 

 

Seven references to Russia and not one about vodka. Good job. It's like the 3rd Reich skit without the gas joke

[xCaptainObviousx]

I disagree about Yubari being DD flimsy.

It actually has some armor: 130mm AP doesn't overpen it...

Unless you aim/hit standard thickness/"tinfoil" armored parts.

 

Veeeery funny.

I said it had the durability of a DD, not the armor of one... It's actually got worse durability than a DD since it's blessed with a citadel.

[th3freakie]

You have yet no idea about its capabilities...

 

*checks EsaTuunanen's profile - it can't be that good*

 

 

Teach me, Sensei. Tell me there is a replay file of that Highest Score. Christ man I don't ever wanna see your name in red in a match.

[th3freakie]

Seven references to Russia and not one about vodka. Good job. It's like the 3rd Reich skit without the gas joke

 

Vodka's boring, comrade. Kvass for breakfast, sweet Abkhazian wine after lunch and some Ararat brandy for the night, that's the good life.

[IamTroublemaker]

Hopefully not since in WoT veta tanks remained exclusive, and it said the same in the package when I was buying it.

 

 

Although it would be nice for others to try it, but there is Gnevny anyway...

[XTHD]

The Gremy's average damage is lower than the Minekaze's DESPITE only being used by experienced players. I don't think it's particularly overpowered but that the Gnevney and Nicholas are slightly underpowered for their tier.

 

Avg damage doesn't matter as much, especially on DDs, and comparing stats like that is pointless anyway. But if I had to speculate, I'd say Minekaze still has leftover stats from the time when it had 10km torps. Also player experience doesn't matter, because torpedo DDs don't actually require any significant skill, beside a basic understanding of concealment mechanics.

 

Gremyaschy is better than its free counterpart Gnevny and is therefore pay to win because:

 

Higher damage output with 1900 HE damage and 9% fire chance vs 1600 and 7% on Gnevny  (very significant)

Faster rudder shift, 2.7s vs 4.4s (very significant)

Workable torpedoes, 8km range vs 4km garbage only usable in emergencies on Gnevny (do I need to rate this too?)

Possibly the ability to stealth fire, because I've read it uses normal detection rules for main battery guns. Not entire sure about that one though, but if true, it is also significant.

 

And downsides:

800 HP less, not important compared to the much higher damage output (6% less HP for 19% more damage, not counting fires, I'll take that)

1 knot less speed, not important compared to the much faster rudder shift, do we even need to discuss this?

[Myrmix]

You can be sure that WG will always want you money, so yes, it will be back.

[xCaptainObviousx]

Hopefully not since in WoT veta tanks remained exclusive, and it said the same in the package when I was buying it.

 

 

Although it would be nice for others to try it, but there is Gnevny anyway...

 

Actually, in our packages it just said that the ships would be exclusive for 1 year after release. WG explained that making the WoT pre-order tanks exclusive for ever was a mistake and I, as a player agree. 

 

Before you start rattling those pitchforks, hear me out:

If WG can't sell a vehicle, there is no reason to keep it interesting or competitive. I don't want my Gremy or Yubari becoming obsolete like the Pz V/IV, Mutant 6 and A-32.

 

EDIT:

 

Avg damage doesn't matter as much, especially on DDs, and comparing stats like that is pointless anyway. But if I had to speculate, I'd say Minekaze still has leftover stats from the time when it had 10km torps. Also player experience doesn't matter, because torpedo DDs don't actually require any significant skill, beside a basic understanding of concealment mechanics.

 

Gremyaschy is better than its free counterpart Gnevny and is therefore pay to win because:

 

Higher damage output with 1900 HE damage and 9% fire chance vs 1600 and 7% on Gnevny  (very significant)

Faster rudder shift, 2.7s vs 4.4s (very significant)

Workable torpedoes, 8km range vs 4km garbage only usable in emergencies on Gnevny (do I need to rate this too?)

Possibly the ability to stealth fire, because I've read it uses normal detection rules for main battery guns. Not entire sure about that one though, but if true, it is also significant.

 

And downsides:

800 HP less, not important compared to the much higher damage output (6% less HP for 19% more damage, not counting fires, I'll take that)

1 knot less speed, not important compared to the much faster rudder shift, do we even need to discuss this?

 

I guess the Fujin also have leftover stats from before it was nerf... oh wait, it always was the same as the post-nerf Minekaze

 

No, I don't want to make it a huge discussion but I don't think the Gremy overpreforms for it's tier, I just think that the other gun-based DDs underpreform at that tier. Compare any t5 DD with any of the t5 CL/CA, BB or CV. Don't scream for nerfs for the ships that preform on par with the rest of it's tier, ask for buffs for those that underpreform.

[IamTroublemaker]

 

Actually, in our packages it just said that the ships would be exclusive for 1 year after release. WG explained that making the WoT pre-order tanks exclusive for ever was a mistake and I, as a player agree. 

 

Before you start rattling those pitchforks, hear me out:

If WG can't sell a vehicle, there is no reason to keep it interesting or competitive. I don't want my Gremy or Yubari becoming obsolete like the Pz V/IV, Mutant 6 and A-32.

 

I wouldnt mind them being on sale. But I recall a similar thread some time ago where WG was changing their status with every new post and where some had proofs where WG said they will be exclusive.

 

But then again, I remember how much I wanted those tanks, like the Mutant when I was starting WoT and was never able to get them. I guess people here deserve better, but, WG being WG, they will probably milk the crap out of people with exclusive 50-60€ Gremy bundles

[xCaptainObviousx]

 

I wouldnt mind them being on sale. But I recall a similar thread some time ago where WG was changing their status with every new post and where some had proofs where WG said they will be exclusive.

 

But then again, I remember how much I wanted those tanks, like the Mutant when I was starting WoT and was never able to get them. I guess people here deserve better, but, WG being WG, they will probably milk the crap out of people with exclusive 50-60€ Gremy bundles

 

I'm ok with inflated bundles, as long as they provide WG with a reason to keep the ships relevant.