Ask for immediate resolution to illegal Free EXP income from ARS mission BUG

[diannao]

 

As you guys may heard that there was a BUG in Step 2 of ARS Kongo Mission. The reward is not 5,000 Free EXP but 5,000 times of Free EXP you got in the last game you finished the mission. This BUG was fixed silently, probably at 17:00 pm GMT+8 yesterday, without any official statement on the webpage. Yet it is obviously that someone have already benefited from this ridiculous issue. I have a screenshot here in the attach files. The player ID is hided for personal privacy and I have no comment on the source of the picture. But I'm sure it is unprocessed.

This BUG also happened in NA server(may be EU server too) and it is said that "Anyone who received more Free XP than was intended will get to keep it. We will not be removing any Free XP from anyone's account. It's not nearly that simple. This bug affected people in all regions, and it was a global decision as to what we would do about it. We had to make a hard choice about what to do, and I know that not everyone will agree with it."

True. I will not agree because I have to say this resolution is unreasonable and unacceptable. If WG take this as a bonus, then just keep it to everyone who still working on this mission. How come that there was a "time limited" bonus even without any statement on the webpage? If WG take this as a BUG, then just roll back and remove the Free EXP or ships which do not belong to them(But return credits spent on anything involved). I don't think it's something impossible because WG can even trace the premium ship you sold a long time ago.

This is not a simple question to just deal with the Free EXP but also a question about WG's attitude. Apparently it is a completely challenge to the game EULA. I suppose that any kind of benefit from game's BUG is considered illegal, isn't it? If WG don't treat this issue seriously, it will become a terrible precedent. Then everyone will make use of any BUG next time without hesitation because you choose to compromise today. This is not fair for most people who even don't know about the BUG and those who know it but didn't do anything for fear of possible punishment.

Nothing is for granted. I spent 5 months on this game, 2,557 games played, earned 3,496,251 exp in total. I spent at leat 90$ to exchange Free EXP. Can you believe that someone earn 2,264,750 Free EXP in one battle and even don't need to pay any doubloons to exchange it? I suppose the rule of this game is quite simple——What you get depend on how much you'd like to pay, whatever time or money. Am I wrong？Please at least show some basic respect to those honest players, who spent huge time and money in this game, but find it not worth a damn overnight.

Let's just make it clear. The amount of illegal Free EXP is unacceptable and unfair. Those who get it is minority, it's unwise to make most of the players unhappy and lose your clients. Most of all, it's something about principle. Your attitude matters.

 

[IamTroublemaker]

Nothing is for granted. I spent 5 months on this game, 2,557 games played, earned 3,496,251 exp in total. I spent at leat 90$ to exchange Free EXP. Can you believe that someone earn 2,264,750 Free EXP in one battle and even don't need to pay any doubloons to exchange it? I suppose the rule of this game is quite simple——What you get depend on how much you'd like to pay, whatever time or money. Am I wrong？Please at least show some basic respect to those honest players, who spent huge time and money in this game, but find it not worth a damn overnight.

 

That is what bothers me the most as well. But I guess we will just have to live with it. Life isn't fair anyway

 

Also, there is already another topic about this:

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/40837-how-wg-sanctions-glitch-abusers-they-do-not-at-all/

[Andreevson]

2 million free xp that is ridiculous.

[Ecotech]

Aren't you over-reacting a little bit?

 

Lets take a look at what you say: "Ask for immediate resolution to illegal Free EXP income".

 

Ask: yes, you may ask. The answer was already given - the ones that were lucky enough get to keep the XP.

 

Immediate resolution: sure Sir, right away Sir. Need your slippers as well while WG goes and immediately resolves your demands?

 

Illegal: there was nothing illegal about it, as the players who received the greatly inflated XP DID NOT KNOW that it was going to happen. So in essence, they got lucky. And now you're green with envy that you had to spend cash and others just got lucky. To be honest, so am I - that XP would have been so goood. Would have saved me a lot of pain. Eh, what can you do, its all a big lottery.

 

You say that the EULA specifies the exploitation of bugs. And there is the all-important nuance: you have to know it to exploit it. Otherwise, you just happened to be there when luck wanted you. End of story.

[Tyrendian89]

Aren't you over-reacting a little bit?

 

Lets take a look at what you say: "Ask for immediate resolution to illegal Free EXP income".

 

Ask: yes, you may ask. The answer was already given - the ones that were lucky enough get to keep the XP.

 

Immediate resolution: sure Sir, right away Sir. Need your slippers as well while WG goes and immediately resolves your demands?

 

Illegal: there was nothing illegal about it, as the players who received the greatly inflated XP DID NOT KNOW that it was going to happen. So in essence, they got lucky. And now you're green with envy that you had to spend cash and others just got lucky. To be honest, so am I - that XP would have been so goood. Would have saved me a lot of pain. Eh, what can you do, its all a big lottery.

 

You say that the EULA specifies the exploitation of bugs. And there is the all-important nuance: you have to know it to exploit it. Otherwise, you just happened to be there when luck wanted you. End of story.

 

exactly. Had this been a deliberate act on the part of those who profited, I'd immediately join in crying murder and bloody havoc. But as it stands, they had no idea that bug was there until it took effect, and all they did until that point was play the game a little bit too much imho

I don't think they could've complained too much had the free XP been taken away after the fact, but I won't condemn them because, as you said it so well, they won the lottery. If we start doing that, we might as well start calling everyone who hits a citadel in the RNGsus lottery a hacker and aimbot user... oh wait.

[LetsRockAndRoll]

So it's butt hurt time because some players got a ton of free xp because of a bug?

I say good luck to them, spend it wisely.

 

 

[JapLance]

How does it affect you that other people got free XP? Do you complain in the same way every time WG gives a few premium ships away?

[LilJumpa]

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Nothing is for granted. I spent 5 months on this game, 2,557 games played, earned 3,496,251 exp in total. I spent at leat 90$ to exchange Free EXP. Can you believe that someone earn 2,264,750 Free EXP in one battle and even don't need to pay any doubloons to exchange it? I suppose the rule of this game is quite simple——What you get depend on how much you'd like to pay, whatever time or money. Am I wrong？Please at least show some basic respect to those honest players, who spent huge time and money in this game, but find it not worth a damn overnight.

Let's just make it clear. The amount of illegal Free EXP is unacceptable and unfair. Those who get it is minority, it's unwise to make most of the players unhappy and lose your clients. Most of all, it's something about principle. Your attitude matters.

 

Just a guess: You where one of the frontrunners and main crybabies....... sorry, vocal leaders........... when Murmansk was given out basically for free on NA and you probably got one.

Now you are not one of those who got lucky to profit from a bug so you have to spread your anger and your attitude over all servers.

 

 

This is not a simple question to just deal with the Free EXP but also a question about WG's attitude. Apparently it is a completely challenge to the game EULA. I suppose that any kind of benefit from game's BUG is considered illegal, isn't it? If WG don't treat this issue seriously, it will become a terrible precedent. Then everyone will make use of any BUG next time without hesitation because you choose to compromise today. This is not fair for most people who even don't know about the BUG and those who know it but didn't do anything for fear of possible punishment.

 

 

Not fair for people not knowing about the bug? 

Your attitude is actually......... I cannot put this politely........

 

 

This Bug was something that shouldn't have happened and it's bad for the game itself that those bugs can and will happen. The decision made by WG, who btw are the only ones losing money due to this bug, is one I don't necessarily like either, because it shows some sort of carelessness.

But the reaction of some parts of the playerbase, that includes you, is outright disgusting.

[Mucker]

Gazillion tons of free xp without the corresponding gazillion tons of silver is pretty much useless for the most part. 

If I was so lucky to get this kind of "gift", I could unlock all ships up to T10, however, at the moment i could buy 1 tier 8 ship + some modules and thats all, no more silver left.

I'm sure most of the people that got these insane free xp amounts will face the same problem.

 

So calm down guys, no one is getting handed free Yamatos and Monatnas out of this bug.    

[ShuggieHamster]

Think is more about envy and jealousy. It happened. its hard to un happen. Some people got lucky ... Good luck to them.

So why suddenly break out the pitchforks and flaming torches? Lets reserve the mob mentality for real issues otherwise WG is simply going to ignore the whiny community even more.

[bushwacker001]

Am I right in thinking that the free xp is on that particular ship?

If so the only way to use it, apart from getting the next ship quicker, is to spend real cash so not really that big of a gift and WG can only gain from it in the end. 

 

[mtm78]

Fixed your -1 OP.

 

This not about envy, it is about equality. I spend money yesterday to buy doubloons to convert some of my XP on elited ships ( I played clicker yesterday, yes carriers.... for the air kill missions with a bogue with 2 fighters being almost useless to my team.. sorry for that team, blame WG for the mission requirements  ). 

 

I does not feel right some 'lucky' people are getting 200 euro worth of free xp, because trust me there are people who gotten it because they knew about the bug. Those people getting away with it would leave me with a VERY sour taste. 

 

 

Am I right in thinking that the free xp is on that particular ship?

If so the only way to use it, apart from getting the next ship quicker, is to spend real cash so not really that big of a gift and WG can only gain from it in the end. 

 

 

No it is free XP which you do not need to convert, check the SS with the 2.5m free xp and 9xxx ship XP. 

[Pastaiolo]

There is already a topic about this going on, with WG staff in it also replying. I would suggest you to post there, if you want to repeat things like a parrot at least.

[bushwacker001]

No it is free XP which you do not need to convert, check the SS with the 2.5m free xp and 9xxx ship XP. 

 

well in that case.....bugger!

 

Just read the other thread! A bit of a shocker to be honest. 

[Aotearas]

Kneejerk overreaction.

 

Not to say that I can't empathize, but still a kneejerk overreaction.

 

However, I'm not entirely fine with how WG handled this. If it were a couple thousand more free XP than intended, I'd say good for those lucky fellows, let them keep it. But hundredthousands, if not millions of free XP is plain ruining the ingame economy for the people that won it. Where's the feeling of accomplishment for grinding through enough XP to get a new ship? Where's the (often much needed) learning curve that comes with playing the previous ship so they don't just skip an entire line and just save up enough credits to get the tier X ship without having accumulated the experience needed to play well in high tier games? I doubt every single of those lucky ones already have that experience.

 

As lucky as those fellows are, this is a poisened gift at best.

 

Imho, WG should really contact those players who were able to trigger the bug before it was fixed (I'm pretty sure the statistics engine should be quite capable of finding such abnormal free XP rewards) and substract the free XP with compensation if they spent credits, etc.. Not just a plain rollback if possible (because who'd like to grind through the missions again, plus lose any other progress made in that timeframe?!), but rectify the excessive free XP jackpot.

 

Yes, I know this isn't easy. But then again, if they had coded the mission rewards correctly, this wouldn't be an issue. On principle alone such an instance of careless programming shouldn't be swept under the rug, because it absolutely IS a major bug.

 

[FaceFisted]

If i got 2M free exp, I would probably stop playing since there was nothing else to do than grind for credits. I would skip most of the ships and would never learned how fun were they to play.

 

As someone wise said - it's not about the end, it's about the journey.

[MrConway]

Lets please keep the discussion in the topic that was already started yesterday

 

 

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