Story of the SMS Emden

[Talladega_Night]

This was posted to youtube a couple days ago, I think it's fitting sine we have the Emden now. Enjoy

 

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

It's a nice story

 

At first I was like meh just some WWI ship but it turned out to be very interesting.

[T0byJug]

I was a bit Disappointed when it was leaked about the SMS Emden for Xmas. The reason having the WW1 Emden means we cant have the 1925 Emden! which is one of the only ships built by Germany in the 1920s. But I rely like what they have done with this model! making the ship as she looked with the Battle of Penang is inspired

[xCaptainObviousx]

I was a bit Disappointed when it was leaked about the SMS Emden for Xmas. The reason having the WW1 Emden means we cant have the 1925 Emden! which is one of the only ships built by Germany in the 1920s. But I rely like what they have done with this model! making the ship as she looked with the Battle of Penang is inspired

 

Who's to say we can't get the 1925 Emden too? They are different ships entirely, only sharing the name,

[RoyalColor]

 

Who's to say we can't get the 1925 Emden too? They are different ships entirely, only sharing the name,

 

I think what he means is that WG names regular in-game ships after class lead pattern. Releasing a Dresden-class ship named Emden might mean that we won't see Emden-class ship.

 

However, Nuremberg - our German T6, was in reality Leipzig-class, so perhaps we might see Emden-class after all...

[T0byJug]

 

I think what he means is that WG names regular in-game ships after class lead pattern. Releasing a Dresden-class ship named Emden might mean that we won't see Emden-class ship.

 

However, Nuremberg - our German T6, was in reality Leipzig-class, so perhaps we might see Emden-class after all...

 

This is what i mean, and it would not have been an issue for the 1925 Emden if it was not that she was the name sake of the class and it was a class of 1 ship. So would be rather dificult to name her and put her in game. One posibility is to use the German navy Prefix of SMS.  This would enable the use of the 1925 Emden as a name as Nazi Germany did not put Prefix before there ship names like for Example Royal navy with HMS

[xCaptainObviousx]

There only ever was a single E 100 hull build IRL, that didn't prevent WG from introducing no less than 4 different versions in World of Tanks.

 

Trust me when I say that we will get the Emden 1925 at some point (and it will most likely be named just that)

[T0byJug]

There only ever was a single E 100 hull build IRL, that didn't prevent WG from introducing no less than 4 different versions in World of Tanks.

 

Trust me when I say that we will get the Emden 1925 at some point (and it will most likely be named just that)

 

Using the analogy of paper tanks  or paper ships douse not count when we are talking about a real ship. In WOT they are giving us several proposed versions of tank using the Hull of the E100 and they are called different things to reflect this. We are talking about a Ship defined by its name Emden

[Historynerd]

Um... just what does "SAS" in the title stand for? 

 

[xCaptainObviousx]

 

Using the analogy of paper tanks  or paper ships douse not count when we are talking about a real ship. In WOT they are giving us several proposed versions of tank using the Hull of the E100 and they are called different things to reflect this. We are talking about a Ship defined by its name Emden

 

I agree on that it's not the best analogy, but I just wanted to point out that WG likes playing it loose with names and models.

 

I'm pretty sure that sooner or later they will rename the t2 Emden into Emden 1908 and introduce the 1925 version as just Emden or vice-versa (There is a second Pensacola in the game files named Pensacola 1930)

[von_chom]

Um... just what does "SAS" in the title stand for? 

 

His Majestys Ships (Seiner Majestaet Shiff)

[xCaptainObviousx]

 

His Majestys Ships (Seiner Majestaet Shiff)

 

That's SMS, where did the A come from?

[Historynerd]

 

His Majestys Ships (Seiner Majestaet Shiff)

 

 

That's SMS, where did the A come from?

 

That's what I meant... SMS I know what it means, SAS I don't...

[T0byJug]

 

I agree on that it's not the best analogy, but I just wanted to point out that WG likes playing it loose with names and models.

 

I'm pretty sure that sooner or later they will rename the t2 Emden into Emden 1908 and introduce the 1925 version as just Emden or vice-versa (There is a second Pensacola in the game files named Pensacola 1930)

 

we will have to wait and see. I do Hope Wargaming Dont start using the launch year in the name to differentiate between ships

[xCaptainObviousx]

 

we will have to wait and see. I do Hope Wargaming Dont start using the launch year in the name to differentiate between ships

 

How would you differentiate between them?

[von_chom]

 

 

That's what I meant... SMS I know what it means, SAS I don't...

 

oh i see, i am bit blind in the morning,  sorry, no clue then, must be typo

[T0byJug]

 

 

That's what I meant... SMS I know what it means, SAS I don't...

 

I think it was a typo on the Posters. Unfortunately he cant go back and correct it.

T0byJug, on 29 December 2015 - 10:55 AM, said:

 

we will have to wait and see. I do Hope Wargaming Dont start using the launch year in the name to differentiate between ships

How would you differentiate between them?

 

Use the Prefix! As i Said above Imperial German navy used SMS Prefix before the name of all there ships, Nazi Germay had No Prefixes on the there ships Bismark was just Bismark.

[xCaptainObviousx]

 

I think it was a typo on the Posters. Unfortunately he cant go back and correct it.

 

Use the Prefix! As i Said above Imperial German navy used SMS Prefix before the name of all there ships, Nazi Germay had No Prefixes on the there ships Bismark was just Bismark.

 

Derp, I'm blind 

[T0byJug]

 

 

That's what I meant... SMS I know what it means, SAS I don't...

 

HE HE SAS stands for South African Ship! It is infact an official Ship Prefix!!  So maybe the South Africans have secretly rebuilt the Emden

 

May be of interest

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_prefix

[T0byJug]

 

Derp, I'm blind 

 

No worrys shipmate!!! This thread is rather cool Non of us are Bit%hing. Just having a rensable discussion No name calling  or anything its quite refreshing

[xCaptainObviousx]

 

 

That's what I meant... SMS I know what it means, SAS I don't...

 

"Scandinavian AirlineS"

[Adwaenyth]

Um... just what does "SAS" in the title stand for? 

 

Maybe it's the Special Air Service Emden? 

[havaduck]

Hm collect the Emdens and go crazy.

 

Theres Emden 1908 a Dresden 1907 class cruiser.

 

Then theres Emden 1916 a Königsberg 1915 class cruiser. Now that Königsberg 1915 class is what I believe ingame refered as the Karlsruhe 1916 class. Not to be confused with the actual Karlsruhe 1912 class with 10,5 cm.

 

Then comes Emden 1925 - the Versailes treaty patchwork cruiser.

 

 

Afterwards come the post-WWII vehicles ... [sarcasm] normally you would outright disregard them but "weak artillery and OP AA" might work out for a additional german premium. Only problem could be the flag. The Kaiserliche Marine is a defenceless victim, but lets see what happens when WG put THAT flag (even slightly altered as it is) on a Bundeswehr Navy ship. ) [/sarcasm]

[Adwaenyth]

 

Afterwards come the post-WWII vehicles ... [sarcasm] normally you would outright disregard them but "weak artillery and OP AA" might work out for a additional german premium.  

 

Depends on if you count Harpoon cruise missiles as artillery or not. 

[T0byJug]

Hm collect the Emdens and go crazy.

 

Theres Emden 1908 a Dresden 1907 class cruiser.

 

Then theres Emden 1916 a Königsberg 1915 class cruiser. Now that Königsberg 1915 class is what I believe ingame refered as the Karlsruhe 1916 class. Not to be confused with the actual Karlsruhe 1912 class with 10,5 cm.

 

Then comes Emden 1925 - the Versailes treaty patchwork cruiser.

 

 

Afterwards come the post-WWII vehicles ... [sarcasm] normally you would outright disregard them but "weak artillery and OP AA" might work out for a additional german premium. Only problem could be the flag. The Kaiserliche Marine is a defenceless victim, but lets see what happens when WG put THAT flag (even slightly altered as it is) on a Bundeswehr Navy ship. ) [/sarcasm]

Lets get this correct. Ships in game are not named by Class they are named by ship! In many cases in game they are using the lead ship or Class namesake. But not always.