Tirpitz

[Ebu34]

I already had Murmansk for credit farming but after i started to BB in both JPN and USN line, i no longer play CAs and CLs. Actually i cant use to shell flight time of cruisers. So i was looking for a premium BB for credit farming. I just bought Tirpitz 2 days ago for that purpose.And already started to falling love with it. I just want to explain my experince  with Tirpitz so far. Maybe can help someone who looking for gameplay experience.

 

Pos

1. Good penetration valued hard punch main artillery.

2. If you angled this ship sufficiently enough its invincible.

3.Concealment with proper module is 14,7 km which is fairly enough.

4.Rudder shift time again with proper module is good.

5. Turret rotation time and ROF is awesome.

Cons

1.Shell dispersion rate is sometimes outraged because of  RNGesus.

 

Some screenshots from my limited past matches. I have no flags just premium time.

[homerNEIN]

Another pro is the speed of the ship and the nice trajectory of the shells, they fly in an low angle which mean you can use ap nearly everytime you shoot. But your he are really bad and because of the nice trajectory for ap you can't shoot over islands in many cases.

[VonPletz]

Yes...Tirpitz can be a real cash-flow machine if you have a the right Captain skills, the right modules, playing skill, common sense, and luck. 

Those are great scores!!! KUDOS!

 

[Nechrom]

Yup. The Tirpitz is easily the best credit grinder currently in the game, if you don't factor in what you have to pay for her.

The Murmansk will still win the "biggest bang for your buck"-award, especially if you don't run a premium account.

 

I like both of them because of their survivability, enabling you to stay in battle and continue doing damage. The Tirpitz survives through health, armor and repairs while the Murmansk survives by being the most agile cruiser of her tier and weight class.

Both also being the fastest in their respective class helps.

[DMQ_1]

are there gonna be any other kind of  camoflauge packs so players can the select the one of their choice ?

[homerNEIN]

are there gonna be any other kind of  camoflauge packs so players can the select the one of their choice ?

 

there is only the prem camo pre installed, but looks really owsome imo (its the historical one)

[DMQ_1]

 

there is only the prem camo pre installed, but looks really owsome imo (its the historical one)

 

it looks awsome indeed but the all grey skin " the kriegsmarine '' one is beautiful 

[ollonborre]

Just wanted to add a few pros and cons:

 

Pros:
-Very hard to citadel.

-Tied with the Iowa for the fastest BB ingame.

-Torpedoes. Putting 4 torps into people who don't expect it and then rage in chat, priceless.

 

Cons:

-AA is a bit lackluster, having the shortest range and lowest DPS of the tier 8 BB's.

-Torpedo protection seems weak.

-The armor, while very citadel safe, is still not impenetrable without a bit of angling, and you can take quite a lot of very heavy damage hits if you are not careful.

[Ebu34]

Yes...Tirpitz can be a real cash-flow machine if you have a the right Captain skills, the right modules, playing skill, common sense, and luck. 

Those are great scores!!! KUDOS!

 

Thx 

[Ebu34]

Just wanted to add a few pros and cons:

 

Pros:

-Very hard to citadel.

-Tied with the Iowa for the fastest BB ingame.

-Torpedoes. Putting 4 torps into people who don't expect it and then rage in chat, priceless.

 

Cons:

-AA is a bit lackluster, having the shortest range and lowest DPS of the tier 8 BB's.

-Torpedo protection seems weak.

-The armor, while very citadel safe, is still not impenetrable without a bit of angling, and you can take quite a lot of very heavy damage hits if you are not careful.

 

In my opinion AA is the biggest disadvantage of this ship.  As you said, if you dont angle the ship, nothing can stop the enemy citadel you.This rule even applied for Yamato.

[guffepuffe]

Cheers guys this is my first post here.

I just felt I had to join the cheering about this ship. 

 

I bought her yesterday and oh boy what a magnificent Queen she is! This is my 4th game with her and it wasn't my best in terms of dmg done but it sure was in terms of both EXP and credits. 

The high amount of EXP is most likely due to the amount of shots I recieved aswell as the capture points.

I was using the credit flag and premium account during this game. 

 

And compared to Amagi (which I love) this beast is just enormous in terms of armor and penentration. There's so many bounces on her when propered angle that it looks like they're throwing rocks at me. Citadels are just as rares as on other battleships but the amount of 3-7k hits seems better, especially on cruisers. And with the increased rate of fire it makes her deadly vs DDs aswell. I've still got to learn proper use of the torpedo armament but it's been working out quite decent so far. 

 

Yes the AA is not the best but it's still decent and I successfully shot down 9 planes one game. And with the correct module she's agile like a cougar which makes angling o torpedo dodging quite enjoyable. 

 

And 1,1million credits from one game (with premium account etc) just makes me drowl cause that's what I want premium ships to do.

 

Biggest con I've experienced so far is as mentioned the big dispersion of the shots. Sometimes I even start laughing when I see 2 shells from the same turret going into 2 diffrent directions pretty much. 

 

[sinky1975]

I bought this ship couple of battles. It is excellent ship easily handle Iowa,NC or Amgi. Also is great credit maker. I like BB and it is my favorite BB ship

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

A view from the other side of the fence..... (puts on body armour and combat helmet)

 

1) Quality of the ship

  I think that the Tirpitz is an extremely good ship in skilled hands, and a good one even when piloted by the average captain. 

   As such it contributes to the popularity of playing BBs at higher tiers.  I totally understand why people would want to buy this superb premium ship, even though the bundle price is a bit steep (IMHO).

 

2) Counter to cruisers

As a cruiser captain, the Tirpitz always seems to be the most difficult battleship to play against, because I find its shells the most difficult to avoid by dodging around.  

They also seem to be very difficult to hurt in return. My Mogami might just as well be firing marshmallows at a Tirpitz.

 

3) Unintended Consequences on game balance

Having such an excellent ship as Tirpitz available is helping to feed the bias towards greater numbers of BBs in games at the higher tiers.  I'm finding them increasingly when playing my Tier 7 ships, along with a higher proportion of BBs in general. (In a game yesterday for example, there were three Tirpitz on each side!)

 

There are significantly fewer cruisers playing at higher tiers than at mid tiers. Long term this won't help BB drivers because there will be more DDs to hunt them and generally make life miserable with Torpedo spam.

 

I'll say again, it's only human nature for people to want to buy such an excellent ship, so I am not blaming the Tirpitz captains, but I worry about the long-term balance here.

 

Data sources: 

 A snapshot from http://www.warshipstats.com/analytics/ which I just took

Tirpitz   4371 players, 294348 battles
NC 3319 players,  221009 battles
Amagi 2417 players, 158852 battles

 

Ship type data:

(Check out data in post #117 in thread http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/39339-will-bbs-ever-get-justice/page__st__100__p__737464#entry737464)

 

OK. Putting the rudder hard over to attempt to avoid incoming fire ....... 

 

 

[Admiral_noodle]

Tirpitz for me is just a big Kongo. It's a battle cruiser but without brittle armour. The armour is in fact "squishy". Hard to citadel but every salvo is 3-4K minimum usually. This is in contrast to North Carolina who angled, bounces everything mostly.

 

Guns aren't as powerful as NC but you can actually follow your cruisers in with tirpitz without the fear of accidentally being broadside to another bb. Surprise torpedoes as well make the tirpitz a very forgiving ship.

 

And therefore it's hard to be "good" in her as she won't punish your mistakes. It's best to learn with unforgiving ships like amagi and NC - then relax in tirpitz

[FaceFisted]

Great ship, too bad more people don't have it

 

[Ebu34]

Great ship, too bad more people don't have it

 

 

What a lucky shot.

[VonPletz]

Has any one noticed that the Tirpitz shells seem to be more inaccurate after the 5.2.1 patch than before?  I have noticed that I am missing more shots than before when I was hitting spot on before the patch.  From the same turret firing the shell are now splitting the ships so no chance of both turret shells hitting the same target.  I have to angle my shots differently working to get just one shell hit not two from the same turret.

Most concerning for a Premium high tier ship Tirpitz pre 5.2 patch release.

 

[44smok]

Haven't noticed any difference except for income buff after 5.2

[ollonborre]

 A snapshot from http://www.warshipstats.com/analytics/ which I just took

Tirpitz   4371 players, 294348 battles
NC 3319 players,  221009 battles
Amagi 2417 players, 158852 battles

 

Ship type data:

(Check out data in post #117 in thread http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/39339-will-bbs-ever-get-justice/page__st__100__p__737464#entry737464)

 

I would not be to worried. If there is anything positive with tier 8 premiums is that they keep the higher tiers populated, and that is a good thing since high tier MM can be really iffy.  Also if you look here:http://warships.today/vehicle/4292818736/eu/Tirpitz you will see that while the Tirpitz has the same winrate as the North Carolina, it has the lowest average damage of the tier 8 BB's, and the lowest amount of kills and planes shot down.

 

Has any one noticed that the Tirpitz shells seem to be more inaccurate after the 5.2.1 patch than before?  I have noticed that I am missing more shots than before when I was hitting spot on before the patch.  From the same turret firing the shell are now splitting the ships so no chance of both turret shells hitting the same target.  I have to angle my shots differently working to get just one shell hit not two from the same turret.

 

Most concerning for a Premium high tier ship Tirpitz pre 5.2 patch release.

 

 

Have not noticed anything out of the ordinary. Hitratio sitting at around 34% and a steady average damage.

[Exozen]

Yesterday's Top games with the Tirpitz, i really didnt like the ship when i bought it a couple of months ago , but it has really grown on me to the point were i play it more then any of my normal ships. 10/10 would buy again .

 

 

Album link : http://imgur.com/a/p9k3W

 

These are with premium account and credit flags, but check out the damage, highest was 171k. 

[__Katniss__]

Same as Atago is the best tier 8 cruiser, Tirpitz is the best tier 8 BB. That 60 € was painful a bit, but im glad i bought that ship. Im still learning and trying to find out the best way how to play with Tirpitz, but damm i love that ship. After Yamato is the second best ship in the game for me. 

[Exozen]

Same as Atago is the best tier 8 cruiser, Tirpitz is the best tier 8 BB. That 60 € was painful a bit, but im glad i bought that ship. Im still learning and trying to find out the best way how to play with Tirpitz, but damm i love that ship. After Yamato is the second best ship in the game for me. 

 

You do know that the Atago is the same ship as the Myioko right ? the tier 7 , its actually slighty worse..  And the Mogami is miles ahead of it in performance. 

[__Katniss__]

 

You do know that the Atago is the same ship as the Myioko right ? the tier 7 , its actually slighty worse..  And the Mogami is miles ahead of it in performance. 

 

Now tell me, which cruiser at tier 8 has 4x HP boost. 

[Spithas]

 

You do know that the Atago is the same ship as the Myioko right ? the tier 7 , its actually slighty worse..  And the Mogami is miles ahead of it in performance. 

 

Atago has nothing in common with the Myoko (i am not talking historically). Slower Rof. Totally Different Detection. Totally Different Torp Angles. Heal ability.

 

And compared to the Mogami (as it is after 0.4.1) the Atago is 2x the better ship. Mogami 155mm is a joke and the 203mm is simply subpar to all other IJN Cruisers.

 

The Mogami is in need of a buff.

 

On Topic: I like the Tirpitz a lot... still trying to get used to it's gun shell travel time and ballistics but it's a good BB. I do rank the Amagi above it though.

[Ebu34]

Just look at one of my match results. What could i do more to win this match? Apereantly it wasnt enough. There is no flag just premium time again.

 

I have a question for you guys. I love the Tirpitz but what mostly irradiate me with this ship wildy inconsistent shell spread. One match i was putting 4 citadel hit to Yamato just with one salvo (yeah you are reading right  ). Next time i cant hit any damn thing or just overpen. Inconsistency is killing my fun. I'm getting noob yelling from my team. How is your experience?