IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #1 Posted December 28, 2015 How about WG makes the RU server for eastern/southern/central Europe countries as well? Since all those countries have similar GDP to Russia. Why should those countries pay the same prices as some western Europe countries while RU server has smaller prices? We are not able to purchase most of stuff due to bundle inflated prices like coutries like Germany and UK can, therefor, whike the Russian prices are more suitable, therefor I think it would be fair if the split happens. My idea is that RU server should add more languages to their client and once the split happens enable us to choose the server (League of legends players will know what I'm talking about). 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #2 Posted December 28, 2015 How about WG makes the RU server for eastern/southern/central Europe countries as well? Since all those countries have similar GDP to Russia. Why should those countries pay the same prices as some western Europe countries while RU server has smaller prices? We are not able to purchase most of stuff due to bundle inflated prices like coutries like Germany and UK can, therefor, whike the Russian prices are more suitable, therefor I think it would be fair if the split happens. My idea is that RU server should add more languages to their client and once the split happens enable us to choose the server (League of legends players will know what I'm talking about). All I want to say is that I dread a smaller player base ( since I am Dutch and will remain on this 'EU' cluster ) but economics wise I agree it makes more sense than currently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #3 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) [edited] Edited December 30, 2015 by BigBadVuk This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jadefalken Beta Tester, Players 751 posts 10,893 battles Report post #4 Posted December 28, 2015 Count me in, as you know I live in Russia but not keen to start a new account and invest more money away from my family to get the ships I already have. This way I can live and play within my means and support might actually move my account to an area where it more financially variable. Monthly wage for me is 250 euros.... So feed the family or have a pixel ship... Hmm tough decision. I have money yes... Not short at all but that is saved for my children... WG won't pay for their future if I invest in this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #5 Posted December 28, 2015 All I want to say is that I dread a smaller player base ( since I am Dutch and will remain on this 'EU' cluster ) but economics wise I agree it makes more sense than currently. Well, since RU is the only stable server that is actually getting new players and EU has less and less players that will eventually happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jadefalken Beta Tester, Players 751 posts 10,893 battles Report post #6 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) [edited] Love that video... Edited December 30, 2015 by BigBadVuk 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #7 Posted December 28, 2015 Jasper_Carrot, on 28 December 2015 - 04:10 PM, said: Love that video... Yeah, pity they aren't talking about Russia but of the USSR., in a rose colored way to boot. Double post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jadefalken Beta Tester, Players 751 posts 10,893 battles Report post #8 Posted December 28, 2015 Tell what part is false in the video... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YUMS] cpt_gandy Beta Tester 168 posts Report post #9 Posted December 28, 2015 How about WG makes the RU server for eastern/southern/central Europe countries as well? Since all those countries have similar GDP to Russia. Why should those countries pay the same prices as some western Europe countries while RU server has smaller prices? We are not able to purchase most of stuff due to bundle inflated prices like coutries like Germany and UK can, therefor, whike the Russian prices are more suitable, therefor I think it would be fair if the split happens. My idea is that RU server should add more languages to their client and once the split happens enable us to choose the server (League of legends players will know what I'm talking about). it use to be like that in world of tanks but the russian players complained that eastern europe players should not be playing on ru servers as they are in europe so they all got moved over to the eu servers so asking for them to be moved back is pointless as it will never happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #10 Posted December 28, 2015 Tell what part is false in the video... The implication that any of those nations wouldn't have risen to achieve economic development without Velikaya Rus existing. We could talk all day too about the awesome contributions the colonial powers did to their colonies too and say that they would be better off if they were still under our boots as that video suggests about the relationship bettwen Russians and the ex sovietic republics/eastern block. And once again, that video is about the USSR, not Russia nowadays. They are as different as Venus is from Mars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jadefalken Beta Tester, Players 751 posts 10,893 battles Report post #11 Posted December 28, 2015 OVanBruce, on 28 December 2015 - 06:34 PM, said: The implication that any of those nations wouldn't have risen to achieve economic development without Velikaya Rus existing. We could talk all day too about the awesome contributions the colonial powers did to their colonies too and say that they would be better off if they were still under our boots as that video suggests about the relationship bettwen Russians and the ex sovietic republics/eastern block. And once again, that video is about the USSR, not Russia nowadays. They are as different as Venus is from Mars. Funny America, Australia, New Zealand, Canada to name a few have done well since colonial times... Never mind... Better argument in the future hey mate ;-) Back on topic.. I think trouble has a good argument and I think WG should consider this idea. Europe does not have a set minimum wage throughout all member countries so WG setting a one price tag is not at advantage for other European countries basing the euro rate as whole OVanBruce, on 28 December 2015 - 06:34 PM, said: The implication that any of those nations wouldn't have risen to achieve economic development without Velikaya Rus existing. We could talk all day too about the awesome contributions the colonial powers did to their colonies too and say that they would be better off if they were still under our boots as that video suggests about the relationship bettwen Russians and the ex sovietic republics/eastern block. And once again, that video is about the USSR, not Russia nowadays. They are as different as Venus is from Mars. Funny America, Australia, New Zealand, Canada to name a few have done well since colonial times... Never mind... Better argument in the future hey mate ;-) Back on topic.. I think trouble has a good argument and I think WG should consider this idea. Europe does not have a set minimum wage throughout all member countries so WG setting a one price tag is not at advantage for other European countries basing the euro rate as whole Erm triple post.... Wtf... Gremlins in the server... Triple post sorry chaps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #12 Posted December 28, 2015 Except the colonized in those countries you mention aren't actually the majority of its inhabitants right now, they were and in some cases keep being the indigenous peoples. Just look up about the history of the Sioux, the Cherokees, the Aborigins, the blacks in South Africa, etc. Also, you only mention states that were born from just one of the colonial powers: UK. There is a lot more to be said about the topic of the colonization by the european powers but this doesn't change the point I made about how russians view thenselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DAD] Whatever08152 Players 228 posts 7,081 battles Report post #13 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) [edited] As a german citizen id like to say THAT THIS VIDEO IS FKN AWESOME! Love it! xD ...and somehow I suppose you dont understand the underlying message at all. Imo they dont look down on anyone ...its a direct comparsion between the "quality" of several countries while they where part of USSR and now that they are part of our "oh so great western culture" after beeing democratised...at least thats what I got from it. Edited December 30, 2015 by BigBadVuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CLADS] olmedreca Players 226 posts 5,719 battles Report post #14 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Tell what part is false in the video... Whole part about Baltics is basically Stalinist propaganda, I didn't bother looking any further. If you wonder what Baltics could be without USSR then just look at Finland, before WW II they were at comparable level. And thats before we start talking about mass repressions... Also Japanese industrialized Korea and Manchuria pretty heavily, Koreans and Chinese are still extremely "grateful". Edited December 28, 2015 by olmedreca Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #15 Posted December 28, 2015 Whole part about Baltics is basically Stalinist propaganda, I didn't bother looking any further. If you wonder what Baltics could be without USSR then just look at Finland, before WW II they were at comparable level. And thats before we start talking about mass repressions... Also Japanese industrialized Korea and Manchuria pretty heavily, Koreans and Chinese are still extremely "grateful". Wasn't the whole video propaganda? A funny kind though, entertaining to say the least until you think of what leis beneath. Btw, RU propaganda stronk, I hear many RU watch Russia today and believe everything they say I'm sorry but Imperialism is wrong, no matter if the political system involved is democratic or totalitarian ( or in between ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jadefalken Beta Tester, Players 751 posts 10,893 battles Report post #16 Posted December 28, 2015 What is the point on raising false Hope with my country is better than yours.. Everyone is patriotic to something or somewhere... I can sit here arguing all night long about that video and compare countries... but what would it achieve? Respect everyone.. No one should or has the right to tell you your country is bad or rubbish... Someone will disagree no matter what you say see or read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jadefalken Beta Tester, Players 751 posts 10,893 battles Report post #17 Posted December 28, 2015 Whole part about Baltics is basically Stalinist propaganda, I didn't bother looking any further. If you wonder what Baltics could be without USSR then just look at Finland, before WW II they were at comparable level. And thats before we start talking about mass repressions... Also Japanese industrialized Korea and Manchuria pretty heavily, Koreans and Chinese are still extremely "grateful". Not all Russians like Stalin anymore than other countries. BTW Finland is in Scandinavia no? Never knew it was the Baltics. I know the Baltics hate Russia.. But if we look at history the Baltics were not exactly angels towards Russia either... Let by gone be by gone and move on... This is wows not political forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rafparis Beta Tester 872 posts 4,381 battles Report post #18 Posted December 28, 2015 For the prices, it would be good... But language will be a big barrier, not many people in EU speak Russian. Can't they make the purchases locked to a region? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jadefalken Beta Tester, Players 751 posts 10,893 battles Report post #19 Posted December 28, 2015 For the prices, it would be good... But language will be a big barrier, not many people in EU speak Russian. Can't they make the purchases locked to a region? They could have the server as one but the shop split by countries and the prices marked by what country your are playing from with items priced according to the euro value to that country. No need to play on RU server even though I beg Devs to transfer my account :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CLADS] olmedreca Players 226 posts 5,719 battles Report post #20 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) BTW Finland is in Scandinavia no? Never knew it was the Baltics. Modern Baltics/Scandinavia division settled with Iron Curtain, during interwar period Finland was sometimes also regarded as a Baltic state as it was quite comparable in many senses. Edited December 28, 2015 by olmedreca Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jadefalken Beta Tester, Players 751 posts 10,893 battles Report post #21 Posted December 28, 2015 Modern Baltics/Scandinavia division settled with Iron Curtain, during interwar period Finland was sometimes also regarded as a Baltic state as it was quite comparable in many senses. Nice concept :-) always read it was Scandinavia since independence from Russia. Was the news correct in stating a Norwegian is campaigning to give them a mountain on the border as a present? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #22 Posted December 28, 2015 As a german citizen id like to say THAT THIS VIDEO IS FKN AWESOME! Love it! xD ...and somehow I suppose you dont understand the underlying message at all. Imo they dont look down on anyone ...its a direct comparsion between the "quality" of several countries while they where part of USSR and now that they are part of our "oh so great western culture" after beeing democratised...at least thats what I got from it. German citizien here, too, and I think You should get some more informations from something called "the free press", which is something Russia has not at the moment. One of the largest exports from russia to all those countries mentioned in that video was... russians. And to say that all these countries would now have build up their economies if russia had not invaded them is a bit... fairy-taleish. To OP: You can't put most eastern countries onto the russian server, because the verbal abuse would be too much for any community manager to handle... Teamkills would be the rule, not the exception... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cosworth1977 Players 51 posts 9,383 battles Report post #23 Posted December 28, 2015 well it works in a other tank game who can roam on EU or NA or RU. So why not for Wargaming ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jadefalken Beta Tester, Players 751 posts 10,893 battles Report post #24 Posted December 28, 2015 German citizien here, too, and I think You should get some more informations from something called "the free press", which is something Russia has not at the moment. One of the largest exports from russia to all those countries mentioned in that video was... russians. And to say that all these countries would now have build up their economies if russia had not invaded them is a bit... fairy-taleish. To OP: You can't put most eastern countries onto the russian server, because the verbal abuse would be too much for any community manager to handle... Teamkills would be the rule, not the exception... Narrow minded you are.. Team killing happens on all servers not just RU. Toxic chat happens on all servers not just RU. You seem to like generalising by country as well so that makes you no better than the Russians you are speaking off in a negative view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DAD] Whatever08152 Players 228 posts 7,081 battles Report post #25 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) German citizien here, too, and I think You should get some more informations from something called "the free press", which is something Russia has not at the moment. One of the largest exports from russia to all those countries mentioned in that video was... russians. And to say that all these countries would now have build up their economies if russia had not invaded them is a bit... fairy-taleish. To OP: You can't put most eastern countries onto the russian server, because the verbal abuse would be too much for any community manager to handle... Teamkills would be the rule, not the exception... I hope I dont get another warning point if I answer this in german (just tell me mods and I will translate it) ...die Sache ist die ...meiner Ansicht nach haben wir bei uns die Illusion einer freien Presse und unsere "gesteuerte Presse" fährt Russland in jeder Art und Weise an den Karren. Ich schaue seit über 10 Jahren kein Fernsehn und bekomme alle meine Informationen nur aus der "alternativen Presse" und wenn ich mich entscheiden müsste wäre ich mehr auf Seiten Russlands als auf der Seite der USA. Das Informationsmonopol ist auf jeden Fall "Pro USA" und "Contra Russland". Und wie oben schon gesagt, das Video vergleicht doch nur die Zustände von vor UDSSR mit nach UDSSR (was letztendlich dann pro USA ist) miteinander ... im Video selber wird zB im Bezug auf die Ukraine davon gesprochen, dass "mit der Ukraine zusammen" Raketen entwickelt wurden. Und dass heute wieder das "Russiche Feindbild" bei uns etabliert werden soll kannst du doch wohl nicht bestreiten, oder wohl? Edited December 28, 2015 by Whatever08152 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
