[CHLEB] duro159 Players 3 posts 1,490 battles Report post #1 Posted December 26, 2015 Well...fuso has 12 14inch guns that can kill anything..what do you thing about the fuso? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,195 battles Report post #2 Posted December 26, 2015 Fuso is good ship, but I prefer New Mexico for tier 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havoc764 Beta Tester 18 posts 3,400 battles Report post #3 Posted December 26, 2015 New mexico is far better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MATREKUS Players 377 posts 4,311 battles Report post #4 Posted December 26, 2015 Well...fuso has 12 14inch guns that can kill anything..what do you thing about the fuso? Its not OP and I would like you to try it first and then talking like that. Because all you have is Kongo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #5 Posted December 26, 2015 The Fuso is "OP" when you are sitting in a Kongo. If you are sitting in a Tier VI ship, she is ok. And if you are sitting in the NewMex, you know that you are quite secure behind your armor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #6 Posted December 26, 2015 play her stock I suck(ed) in the Fuso maybe I should buy her back to see the OPness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeletedUser Players 0 posts Report post #7 Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) Try to shoot ap ammo @ new mexico or get an nice salvo from new mexico and tell me again "fuso is op". And if you happen to fight vs colorado not even a new mexico is helping much... Edited December 26, 2015 by 3murmeln Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D7v Players 585 posts 13,149 battles Report post #8 Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) fuso is only good against cruisers, it cant pen new mexico, I had 8 hits with 0 damage many times vs New Mexico. Kongo is better than Fuso with a lower tier Edited December 26, 2015 by Vaspurakanian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_XGuN6pHmfiJ9 Players 460 posts Report post #9 Posted December 26, 2015 When do you know when a ship is well balanced? When you find on the forum topics about nerfing and buffing of that ship on that same forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,881 battles Report post #10 Posted December 26, 2015 Well...fuso has 12 14inch guns that can kill anything..what do you thing about the fuso? its not OP and it is much worse than new mexico. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_5ZwIvbNmKOna Players 19 posts Report post #11 Posted December 26, 2015 The gameplay on those 2 ships is different. One would be really simple minded to tell : "hurr it's a battleship, durr it's a tank" Fuso is a beast, if you're not good with it, you're just doing it wrong. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TUD1] Captain_Edwards Beta Tester 1,182 posts Report post #12 Posted December 26, 2015 Fuso is not far from being an XP pinata in some hands. In others is an absolute monster. NM & Warspite fair well against it and visa versa. Its pretty much balanced these days imo. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OhMyDiddlyDais Players 53 posts 20,391 battles Report post #13 Posted December 26, 2015 Fuso is pretty epic imo, I was doing okay in the U.S. battleships but recently started the Jap ones and frankly in the right circumstances the Fuso does feel OP, it can almost dance it's so nimble, with the 6 turrets it's often capable of taking on two targets at the same time and it also makes dispatching a nearly dead ship not so painful as you can normally spare a shot or two. I agree the NM is awesome and I was totally in love with the NY too but my stats in Fuso are obscene compared to the others, perhaps it's just a reflection of knowing how to play now as the U.S. BS line was the first line I was researching......but anyhow, Fuso all day long now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lethalbizzell Beta Tester 306 posts 4,903 battles Report post #14 Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) good, but her citadel is massive and i regularly wipe them out with a good broadside, your talking 12-20k damage on a solid broadside hit. So she isnt invincible. Edited December 26, 2015 by lethalbizzell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JUNK] SomeoneYouKnow2 Beta Tester 301 posts 13,581 battles Report post #15 Posted December 26, 2015 good, but her citadel is massive and i regularly wipe them out with a good broadside, your talking 12-20k damage on a solid broadside hit. So she isnt invincible. Any competent Fuso captain can prevent that in most circumstances however. Fuso is a beast that's for sure. As for which is better Fuso or New Mexico that depends on how the stars are aligned when you play them really. The only time it feels a little lacking is when up against a higher tier battleship because their guns can penetrate your armour even if you're angled properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lethalbizzell Beta Tester 306 posts 4,903 battles Report post #16 Posted December 26, 2015 Any competent Fuso captain can prevent that in most circumstances however. Fuso is a beast that's for sure. As for which is better Fuso or New Mexico that depends on how the stars are aligned when you play them really. The only time it feels a little lacking is when up against a higher tier battleship because their guns can penetrate your armour even if you're angled properly. I rarely see a competent fuso captain haha, i use New mexico Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhal Alpha Tester 5,609 posts 5,569 battles Report post #17 Posted December 26, 2015 Fuso is not far from being an XP pinata in some hands. In others is an absolute monster. NM & Warspite fair well against it and visa versa. Its pretty much balanced these days imo. Exactly. It's one of the better balanced ships in game and quite dependant on the skill, it can be terrible or awesome, depending who plays it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JUNK] SomeoneYouKnow2 Beta Tester 301 posts 13,581 battles Report post #18 Posted December 26, 2015 Exactly. It's one of the better balanced ships in game and quite dependant on the skill, it can be terrible or awesome, depending who plays it. I think the whole tier 6 has the most balanced ships of any tier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doct0rD Players 8 posts 1,257 battles Report post #19 Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) Fuso has weaker armor than New Mex, both in thickness and distribution but it makes that up by having more HP, faster speed, far longer range and better accuracy of its guns. When you figure out its gun characteristics, you can do this: Tier 6 is probably the best balanced tier for BB's, Warspite, New Mexico and Fuso all have unique strengths and weaknesses that you can exploit to your advantage. For me Fuso is the best, closely followed by the Warspite, although all three cannot hold the candle to Nagato, which is my favorite BB's in the game (haven't unlocked the Amagi yet). Edited December 26, 2015 by doct0rD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,195 battles Report post #20 Posted December 26, 2015 Tier 6 is probably the best balanced tier for BB's, Warspite, New Mexico and Fuso all have unique strengths and weaknesses that you can exploit to your advantage. For me Fuso is the best, closely followed by the Warspite, although all three cannot hold the candle to Nagato, which is my favorite BB's in the game (haven't unlocked the Amagi yet). Warspite is actually quite a bit worse than the other two. The damage is only 71% of what New Mexico does with salvo(and dpm), which is very poor. Full stats comparison of those tier 6 battleships in my Warspite review: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhal Alpha Tester 5,609 posts 5,569 battles Report post #21 Posted December 26, 2015 Warspite is actually quite a bit worse than the other two. The damage is only 71% of what New Mexico does with salvo(and dpm), which is very poor. I wonder if that's not remainder of CBT balance. Warspite had worse DPM by then, but not that much. Secondaries made for quite some of the difference. but they were harshly nerfed then and main guns of the Warspite were not buffed. On the other side Warspite maneuverability was not nerfed with other BB's and it can repair better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doct0rD Players 8 posts 1,257 battles Report post #22 Posted December 26, 2015 Warspite is actually quite a bit worse than the other two. The damage is only 71% of what New Mexico does with salvo(and dpm), which is very poor. Full stats comparison of those tier 6 battleships in my Warspite review: DPM is an irrelevant metric, useful only for theoretical calculations. By comparison, if we focus solely on DPM, Montana should be vastly superior to Yamato due to larger number of guns and faster reload with appropriate upgrades. Sadly the reality is different. Warspite compensates its nunerical disadvantage in terms of guns with higher caliber guns (381 vs 356 mm) and better horizontal/vertical dispersion, which awards skillful aim more compared to New Mexico that acts like a shotgun by comparison. Same goes when comparing Nagato and Fuso and why so many people hate the Nagato. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lethalbizzell Beta Tester 306 posts 4,903 battles Report post #23 Posted December 26, 2015 DPM is an irrelevant metric, useful only for theoretical calculations. By comparison, if we focus solely on DPM, Montana should be vastly superior to Yamato due to larger number of guns and faster reload with appropriate upgrades. Sadly the reality is different. Warspite compensates its nunerical disadvantage in terms of guns with higher caliber guns (381 vs 356 mm) and better horizontal/vertical dispersion, which awards skillful aim more compared to New Mexico that acts like a shotgun by comparison. Same goes when comparing Nagato and Fuso and why so many people hate the Nagato. I have to agree, i find playing with skill with Warspite to be much more rewarding than New Mexico or Fuso. This is mainly due to its ability to turn and its grouping, only 1 turret will fire a bad shot, other 3 fire in good grouping. Fuso has a good punch to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,195 battles Report post #24 Posted December 26, 2015 DPM is an irrelevant metric, useful only for theoretical calculations. By comparison, if we focus solely on DPM, Montana should be vastly superior to Yamato due to larger number of guns and faster reload with appropriate upgrades. Sadly the reality is different. Warspite compensates its nunerical disadvantage in terms of guns with higher caliber guns (381 vs 356 mm) and better horizontal/vertical dispersion, which awards skillful aim more compared to New Mexico that acts like a shotgun by comparison. Same goes when comparing Nagato and Fuso and why so many people hate the Nagato. Higher caliber won't compensate much anything against New Mexico, when damage per salvo is still 30k less (90k vs 120k) and New Mexico has stronger citadel armor. Difference between dispersions is not much in 15km and Fuso has way superior accuracy against both of them. Warspite loses in having 4 less guns, bad gun arc and horrible turret traverse. Having good AA and secondaries isn't enough to bring it to same level with the other two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lethalbizzell Beta Tester 306 posts 4,903 battles Report post #25 Posted December 26, 2015 Higher caliber won't compensate much anything against New Mexico, when damage per salvo is still 30k less (90k vs 120k) and New Mexico has stronger citadel armor. Difference between dispersions is not much in 15km and Fuso has way superior accuracy against both of them. Warspite loses in having 4 less guns, bad gun arc and horrible turret traverse. Having good AA and secondaries isn't enough to bring it to same level with the other two. Warspite turret traverse is irrelevant though when good timed, tight turns put all you guns on target. its speed change is also very good, with a higher top speed. I think its based on how to play each ship, and each ship plays differently to different strengths. T6 really is well balanced shame about T7..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites