Colorado dispersion

[OptimusBeard]

Hi,

 

I'm playing the USS Colorado since 3 days or so.. the dispersion is as bad as a blind man playing paintball. Is the it really that bad or do I have bad luck with the dispersion system this far?

 

Greets

[IamTroublemaker]

Well, the dispersion is bad if you are staying at max distance and sniping (almost always bad for a BB). But yeah, overall it has bad dispersion and that is a trait of all US BBs.

[RichardNixon]

If you're using the A hull then the dispersion is exactly the same as most other US BBs (ie. kinda bad), and better than the New Mexico or the Wyomings. It just feels worse because you have fewer guns and the combat ranges are typically longer.

 

The Colorado B & C hulls actually have slightly more accurate guns than any other US BB.

 

[StuntMan0369]

Ahhh, good old Colorado... Yes, it does feel inaccurate, simply because you're firing 8 projectiles a salvo instead of 12 as was the New Mexico. I personally prefer triple turret guns, but that's my superstitiousness getting to me, there shouldn't really be much difference, it just feels it. RichardNixon above me pretty much nailed it. Colorado has enough problems with it's low Health pool, but getting the North Carolina after the grind is worth it. Trust me  

[BabyAdmiral]

Hmh. Strange. I always felt that the Colorado had the most accurate guns of any of my US BBs.

[OptimusBeard]

If you're using the A hull then the dispersion is exactly the same as most other US BBs (ie. kinda bad), and better than the New Mexico or the Wyomings. It just feels worse because you have fewer guns and the combat ranges are typically longer.

 

The Colorado B & C hulls actually have slightly more accurate guns than any other US BB.

 

 

That's great to know, I'm only 5k away grom the B hull 

[gekkehenkie50]

Im at the C hull and cant hit ANYTHING. Broadside Iowa, nope, Lexington, na ah. Nothing, now you might say that my aim is off, but I have no problems in accurate ships (Aoba, Omaha, dds).

[Panzerblitz]

You can't really compare cruiser and DD guns to BB ballistics.

[tomkrist]

Let me ask: What distance are you shooting from? Max distance? 

 

If you get your Colorado inside 10-12 km, the gun works perfectly. Its on that
distance you need to get to have fully use of this ship. It has decent armour and

by angling it you should own a Nagato on that distance. 

 

Go in with some cruisers and voila , its a deadly ship. But because it is slow you need

to plan good. Never go in alone.

 

[Fiery_Kathy]

Colorado dispersion and penetration are a lot better than the Nagato's

[fnord_disc]

Colorado dispersion and penetration are a lot better than the Nagato's

 

No they aren't.

[deadly_if_swallowed]

GenrMcAuliffe1, on 11 July 2016 - 01:35 PM, said:

Colorado dispersion and penetration are a lot better than the Nagato's

No they aren't.

 

I feel the same as McAuliffe. Colorado feels a lot more accurate to me since lots of patches now. I do admit that you have to aim her differently though. I think you have to aim USN guns higher above the enemy waterline than with IJN BBs.

[Fiery_Kathy]

 

No they aren't.

 

Armour: Colorado > Nagato

Gun Pen: Colorado > Nagato

Gun Accuracy:Colorado > Nagato

AA: Colorado > Nagato

Turn Rate: Colorado > Nagato

Speed: Colorado < Nagato
Secondaries: Colorado < Nagato

Range: Colorado < Nagato

[fnord_disc]

 Gun Pen: Colorado > Nagato

Gun Accuracy:Colorado > Nagato

 

No, Nagato's guns are more accurate in both dimensions above 10km and they have (very slightly) more penetration. They also have 25% more normalization.

 

 I think you have to aim USN guns higher abover the enemy waterline than with IJN BBs.

 

Hmm, at long range, yes, because Colorado's shells are lighter and the velocity lower and they fall at a steeper angle onto the hit zones.

[Fiery_Kathy]

I would rather be in a Colorado vs 2 Nagatos instead of a in a Nagato vs 1 Colorado

[fnord_disc]

I would rather be in a Colorado vs 2 Nagatos instead of a in a Nagato vs 1 Colorado

 

If you play the Colorado better, that's fine. It has a lot going for it over the Nagato, but the dispersion isn't part of it.

 

If you don't believe me, go to the port view and divide the listed horizontal dispersion by the range to get dispersion/meter distance and you'll see that Nagato has lower dispersion = better accuracy. The sigma is the same, but it's a scalar for the dispersion, so it's still better.

[Fiery_Kathy]

 

If you play the Colorado better, that's fine. It has a lot going for it over the Nagato, but the dispersion isn't part of it.

 

If you don't believe me, go to the port view and divide the listed horizontal dispersion by the range to get dispersion/meter distance and you'll see that Nagato has lower dispersion = better accuracy. The sigma is the same, but it's a scalar for the dispersion, so it's still better.

 

If you look at stats, yes, if you play it, it's a completely different story. I've played both the nagato and the Colorado and the CO's dispersion feels a lot better.

[BruceForce]

I always thought the Colorado dispersion was a huge improvement over what previous US BBs had. Here's an example of shooting some small ships on mid and low range with pretty low dispersion (full disclosure, it's my video, don't click if you don't want to):

 

[robihr]

colorado has great accuracy. it either hits citadel or it doesnt hit

 

[GrumpyWorm]

Moved

[DinkyToy_AW]

My colorado is able to miss a broadside not moving kongo +/- 10km of the dispersion...
To say it simple have seen it manny times my back guns salvo drops infront and front salvo drops behind the enemy ship believe me, you will look at your screen and look like this  for a wile.
Yes it can hit hard but lately i feel i have to much dispersion and rng against me, really anoying...

 

[makhot]

i feel i have to much dispersion and rng against me

So just a another usual day piloting a battleship.. Luckily there are those days too when each shell seems to reach citadel and you get over 150k damage rounds.

 

I'm almost done with my Colorado grind and she seems to be performing well as usual. The thing with BBs is that you land so few shells per match, that your subjective feeling of the misses often greatly exaggerates the unlucky shots.

[BabyAdmiral]

I'm almost done with my Colorado grind

 

Then you're pretty much done with the enjoyable part of the US battleship tree The North Carolina is an awful ship, and a disappointment if you think that entering the WW2 era of US battleships will be a better experience. The North Carolina shoots like a sawed-off shotgun. Impossible to reliably hit anything. I hope you have enjoyed your time with the Colorado, because alongside New Mexico, it's by far the best ship in the US line (not that I ever got to try out Iowa and Montanta, but rumours has it that they play similarly to North Carolina).

[SV_Kompresor]

 

Then you're pretty much done with the enjoyable part of the US battleship tree The North Carolina is an awful ship, and a disappointment if you think that entering the WW2 era of US battleships will be a better experience. The North Carolina shoots like a sawed-off shotgun. Impossible to reliably hit anything. I hope you have enjoyed your time with the Colorado, because alongside New Mexico, it's by far the best ship in the US line (not that I ever got to try out Iowa and Montanta, but rumours has it that they play similarly to North Carolina).

 

Guess your NC was made in china....because my NC is the best US battleship by far (with colorado being the second)....it has a decent dispersion and OP anti air

[deadly_if_swallowed]

NC is a decent ship after the accuracy "buff". Still a huge dispersion on paper but it when using all 3 turrets something will hit eventually. AP shells pack a punch. Before the accuracy buff I considered stopping the grind and focus on other ships instead. NC just felt unplayable for me back then.

Now I enjoy Iowa but she is very situational due to her length. I dislike excessive bowtanking but use her speed to push up. Unfortunately, pushing towards the enemy will quickly isolate you from your fleet as cruisers will kite the other direction, showing only their stern to the enemy.