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[CountOfTuscany]

 

Just AP them broadsides, HE angled sheeps and derpstroyers.

 

Tried to shoot AP a bit at kruzers. got like 1-2 on Kirov. But I've mostly been pinging away at battleboats with HE. Shell arcs are great.

I hadn't really played much grem before, but got to say that the ship is really potent (but most people knew this already anyway)

[piritskenyer]

Yay, I'm an instructor nao :3

 

*goes off to definitely not play the game but break up floorboards  *

[Panocek]

 

Tried to shoot AP a bit at kruzers. got like 1-2 on Kirov. But I've mostly been pinging away at battleboats with HE. Shell arcs are great.

I hadn't really played much grem before, but got to say that the ship is really potent (but most people knew this already anyway)

 

RU DD (and light cruisers as well) source of damage comes from regular AP penetration (0.3 max damage) on superstructures. It doesn't looks as intimidating as multiple citadel from BB, but 2-3k damage every 5s can get serious quickly on anything broadside.

[CountOfTuscany]

 

RU DD (and light cruisers as well) source of damage comes from regular AP penetration (0.3 max damage) on superstructures. It doesn't looks as intimidating as multiple citadel from BB, but 2-3k damage every 5s can get serious quickly on anything broadside.

 

Ok, so I'm better off firing AP, even at BBs? Also, how about fire damage? Without firing HE you won't really set stuff on fire?

 

And what would you pick as a tier 4 skill? DE or AFT?

[Panocek]

 

Ok, so I'm better off firing AP, even at BBs? Also, how about fire damage? Without firing HE you won't really set stuff on fire?

 

And what would you pick as a tier 4 skill? DE or AFT?

 

Yep. Just avoid hitting main armor belt with those small caliber guns, low penetration is actually a good feature in game, as you can reliably deal damage to superstructure/bow/stern as long as shells don't glance off due to angling. Russian HE isn't exactly the best choice IMO, sure you can launch 3-4 salvos for few fires but as long as you have nice broadsides, just use AP. If enemy angles himself, then HE all the way.

 

And AFT is a must for RU DDs, even if you intend to only own Grem. She should have decent margin of invisifiring with AFT.

 

Aaand Kirisiema secured

[CountOfTuscany]

 

Yep. Just avoid hitting main armor belt with those small caliber guns, low penetration is actually a good feature in game, as you can reliably deal damage to superstructure/bow/stern as long as shells don't glance off due to angling. Russian HE isn't exactly the best choice IMO, sure you can launch 3-4 salvos for few fires but as long as you have nice broadsides, just use AP. If enemy angles himself, then HE all the way.

 

And AFT is a must for RU DDs, even if you intend to only own Grem. She should have decent margin of invisifiring with AFT.

 

Aaand Kirisiema secured

 

 

Ok, thanks for pointing out Pano!

Tried some AP on BBs but couldn't get consistent shots. probably due to my aiming, but I'll work on that and use HE in the meanwhile.

 

I guess AFT gives the most benefit, since you can send those 130mm shells further away and pick your targets more easily (while still invisifiring).

 

Atm I do 25k damage on average per battle. Note that I barely use torps. I mostly stay at 11km, to fire my guns and I don't really bother to sneak up to torp range and try to invisifire those 55kn snails. I'm still looking for ways to up my damage, but I think I'll just have to play and learn...

 

also congrats on the Kirisiemka. I think I'm only at 10% of the first mission

 

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

DEAR WG(HEHE) AS YOU LOYAL CUSTOMRE I PAY FOR PRIMUM AND I ALSO WANT YUO TO DO THINKS IN GAME AND NOT JUST LAZING AROND. THEIR IS NO CLANS IN THE GAMES AND MM IS TOTAL CR4P!!11 FIX YOURE GAEM WG OR I WILL STOP BUIYNG PREMUM!1!

[KptStrzyga]

And send me some beer. 

[Panocek]

Yep, because WGEU is totally going to learn anything from GMB...

[KptStrzyga]

Another ARP sheep in port. Now I have 2 months to deal 2 million dmg and 3k hits from main guns. 

 

[Yuzral]

...piece of cake^​1, right?  Not if you suddenly start playing the way I have today.  First battle: Fubuki explodes on the second hit from a Mahan.  Second battle: I manage to torp an Ibuki in Atago, starting to feel a bit better.  Third: Fubuki again - I get stupid, sit broadside in smoke and eat a torpedo. You'd think I'd know better than to do that since I shotgun torpedoes into smoke fairly regularly myself.  Fourth (Atago) - I...I...don't...wanna remember this one.  Fifth (ARP Myoko) - blind corner torps from a Furutaka C and I'd used all my torpedobeat cooldowns 10 seconds earlier.  And that's when I decided I was better off giving the game a miss for a bit.

 

And what's with the editor on this board suddenly typing right to left egnahc gnittamrof a ekam uoy  reveneh​w ​?

 

 

_{​1: Guaranteed authentic non-lying cake.  Honest.}

[AntTiger666]

Another ARP sheep in port. Now I have 2 months to deal 2 million dmg and 3k hits from main guns. 

 

unless you have the Atlanta, getting 3k hits will take a while*.... (if your a BB player... oh dear...)

 

*depending on what ship you are using.

 

Edit: Derp mode activated *facepalm*

[HectorBarbossa]

 

unless you have the Atlanta, getting 3k hits will take a while.... (if your a BB player... oh dear...)

 

Russian DD like Chabarowsk, and i have like over 250 hits per battle, or sme hamuricans DD,spamming every 2.3sec

[Panocek]

#justUmikazethings

[NuclearNoob]

Whoa. You dirty sealclubber. 

[Panocek]

Whoa. You dirty sealclubber. 

 

Go be banned somewhere else

 

Also expecting another AA OP ragetopic in 3... 2... 1...

Because Hiryu with fighter setup totally should sink 1v1 tier higher North Carolina with dedicated AA setup... Not mentioning said NC had cruiser and fighter support

 

[WolfGewehr]

^ Why I never meet people who try to send planes for my AA built BBs

 

 Though once I shot down 48 planes with Tirpitz against Lexi and Indy, thanks to muh manual AA

 

[Panocek]

^ Why I never meet people who try to send planes for my AA built BBs

 

 Though once I shot down 48 planes with Tirpitz against Lexi and Indy, thanks to muh manual AA

 

 

Most "CV stronk" people are in Hiryus and to an extent, Rangers. So I guess AA statpadded Amagi should do the trick? Or Nagato for that matter. Usually Essex/Taiho and higher players tend to evade my AA escort battleships until I'm battered or going all out at me.

[Toivia]

Well, this nicely sums up my misery since GNB started. Particularly my inability to do well in DDs since over a month ago:

[KptStrzyga]

Teams today were... Idk how to describe it. I was playing on my highest level: 108k average dmg. And I barely made it to 50% WR. 

Need to sealclub more. Clearly. 

[Yuzral]

 

^ Why I never meet people who try to send planes for my AA built BBs

 

One of the funnier things about dusting off Atlanta for the second ARP mission was watching Bogues and Ryujos trying to attack her or the CV she was escorting.  I'd like to think I educated a few carrier drivers...

 

Rest of the month wasn't too bad for me, but Sunday was just a disaster, mostly of my own making - had a couple of games where I slipped up and got murdered before I could do any damage.  Ended with a couple of good games and got a decent video out of it though:

 

 

 

[Panocek]

Teams today were... Idk how to describe it. I was playing on my highest level: 108k average dmg. And I barely made it to 50% WR. 

Need to sealclub more. Clearly. 

 

I haven't played sheeps yesterday and focused more on non pvp games like Skyrim or ESO, where you can swing sharpened metal bits in peace

[Sonic_157]

 

Here is an interesting piece of news i came across today.

 

Japan now has it's first female warship captain. Link here.

 

I will also post the text for future reference.

 

"Fair winds and calm seas" from me captain.
 

 This will inevitably be target for ARP-Kancolle-waifu memes ofc. Be polite!

 

 

 

Meet Japan's first female warship captain

 

 

It is no easy task being captain of a Japanese warship.

There are China’s rising maritime ambitions, North Korea’s sanction-flouting missile antics and the shifting parameters of a pacifist constitution to deal with.

And for Commander Miho Otani, there is one more challenge to add to the list: the responsibility that goes hand in hand with being the nation’s first female captain of a Japanese destroyer.

Commander Otani, 45, made Japanese maritime history earlier this year when she was promoted to the senior-ranking position of captain of the Yamagiri destroyer, overseeing a crew of 220, only ten of whom are women.

 

The Yamagiri, a destroyer, moored at Yokosuka army base near Tokyo - Credit: Androniki Christodoulou

 

The Maritime Self-Defence Force (MSDF) appointment marked a major step forward for Japanese women in the armed forces, long renowned as a male dominated world mirroring the nation’s sharp gender imbalance across the professional spectrum.

Today, there are 2,530 female MSDF personnel out of 41,774, with defence officials having set the fairly modest goal of raising the percentage of women service members from 6 per cent to 10 per cent within 15 years.

Commander Otani, however, has long been blazing a trail for women within the MSDF, with a growing list of “firsts” under her belt: she was one of the first female graduates at the National Defence Academy and more recently, she become the first female skipper of a training destroyer in 2013.

Her latest promotion carries even greater significance, with Commander Otani, who is also a married mother, facing a myriad of sensitive geo-political challenges, ranging from increasingly heated territorial tensions to tempering the rising maritime power of China.

It’s also a timely appointment for the prime minister Shinzo Abe, neatly complementing his policies of womenomics which aim to help revitalise the world’s third largest economy by supporting more women in the workplace.

However, speaking to the Telegraph on board the destroyer Yamagiri, docked in a picturesque green bay at the Funakoshi base in Yokosuka, 28 miles south of Tokyo, Commander Otani conceded her path had not always been smooth sailing.

After marrying at the age of 29, she was immediately asked by a male colleague when she was going to leave her job – a common assumption still facing many working Japanese women today.

 

Miho Ootani takes the captain's chair - Credit: Androniki Christodoulou

 

She also admitted that male attitudes still needed to change today, in order to make policies supporting working women effective, while admitting her own personal “dilemma” of attempting to balance her career with being the mother of a now 12-year-old daughter.

Poised, polite and cautiously friendly, Commander Otani, dressed in immaculate top-to-toe whites with a neat black bow tying back her hair, talked from the head of a table in a meeting room with military-style clocks, photographs of Japan’s most senior politicians (all men) and reproduction Impressionist paintings on the walls.

Describing the inspiration behind the start of her maritime career more than 20 yeas ago, she said: “I was living life as a regular university student and I saw the Gulf War on the news.

“I was shocked to see what was going on in the world and how different it was from my life in Japan. I felt a sort of patriotism when I saw the news. That’s when I saw a newspaper ad for the National Defence Academy (NAD) recruiting female officers and I decided to join.”

She smiles recalling how she first encountered opposition e not from her male classmates, but closer to home: “My family was opposed to the idea. My father felt that the NDA was not a place for a woman to study, it was more a man’s thing.”

This, however, failed to curtail her ambitions in carving a new path for female officers:  “I wasn’t really thinking in terms of going up the ranks. I felt more compelled to fulfill my duties as one of the first female students of the NDA and to pave the way for future female students who would follow in my footsteps and open doors for them. I feel responsible as a female to open up doors for other female officers.”

During the interview, Commander Otani was cautious in providing specific examples of the gender discrimination that she and her female colleagues might have experienced in the MSDF.

However, after describing the moment as a junior lieutenant officer when she was asked when she was quitting her job after marrying, she said: “Back then, people were just not used to working with women so they did not know how females would work. So I felt responsible as a female officer to show everyone - with my own work ethics and attitude – that I could do the same jobs that my male colleagues could do too.”

As the mother of a daughter, plus having been married twice (her current husband is a fellow destroyer captain), Commander Otani is acutely aware of the modern day struggles facing working women trying to balance family with careers.

“My work is on a ship, so I have to be away from my family for many months at a time,” she said. “So I might have to ask my parents to help take care of my children. I feel the dilemma of not being there to raise my child.”

Among the biggest challenges facing women in the armed forces was not the task of creating gender-balanced policies – but the challenges of implementing them in a famously hard working culture, according to Commander Otani.

“Women can actually take three years leave after a child is born,” she said. “That’s longer than in the US. But the problem is that the policies are there, but no one is able to actually take advantage of them. It’s really about the mentality of people – especially male officers – together they have to come up with ideas to change this, so they can actually utilise these policies.”

The pursuit of a new generation of young recruits has prompted the MSDF to position itself increasingly as a modern and attractive work prospect – as reflected in initiatives such as so-called Sailor Idol, a nationwide contest to find the most popular male and female sailors.

The ten female crew members who work on board the Yamagiri most likely count themselves as particularly lucky to be working for the nation’s first female captain – with Commander Otani even hosting regular “joshikai” (female gatherings).

Among them was Mayu Kanzaki, 28, Japan’s first female gunnery officer, who spoke with warm appreciation of her captain: “She is very friendly and very fair.  She takes care of the officers and their families. She thinks it’s important for us to have a private life and feels responsible for everyone on board.”

And the main topic of conversation during her “joshikai”? “Gossiping,” said Officer Kanzaki with a laugh.

Commander Otani’s appointment was “highly significant”, marking new levels of support for female officers in the MSDF, according to Garren Mulloy, a British associate professor at the faculty of International Relations at Daito Bunka University in Saitama prefecture.

“The Japan Self-Defence Forces have generally been considered to be far behind the UK, US, Denmark, Australia and other armed forces in their consideration of women,” said Professor Mulloy. “This is not just a clear statement that there has been a sea change in policies and attitudes, but that the Japanese have caught up very rapidly and successfully.”

He added: “The socialisation factors within Japanese society make for a very much male dominated culture, and women who can learn to navigate and manage that environment will do well, but that will probably be a minority of women,” he said.

“The biggest challenge is possibly too much attention on her gender and not enough on her capabilities as a naval commander. Also as the trail blazer, any issue, error, or fault could be highlighted and used as an example of how 'women react', but this is what every officer in every force in the world has faced.”

Perhaps unsurprisingly, however, Commander Otani insisted that she ultimately felt unhindered by her gender:“I feel that male and females are very much equal in terms of careers. I get the same salary. […]There are some duties I can’t assume, such as going on submarines, but other than that, there are not many jobs that I cannot do. I feel it’s equal.”

 

 

 

 

[CountOfTuscany]

On the TS server of SGTA/SGWA.

 

One of the instructors wasn't sure if he had server rights. So this happenes:

 

I was talking to another SGWA member. Then the instructor joined the channel: "Hey can anybody of you help me?" So the fellow SGWA member replied: "Sure I can help you". The next moment there were two people left in the channel. Me: "What happened?". Instructor: "I didn't  knew if I had server rights, so I kicked him."

 

 

P.S. Yes the instructor explained the situation to the unlucky fellow after he rejoined the server.

[KptStrzyga]

Mission completed. 

Dat was fast