Kurbain Players 1,976 posts 2,773 battles Report post #1 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) It appears your prayers have been answered. Is this the dawn of a new era? Value of the package: 4.800 doubloons (Błyskawica) + 300 (Port Slot) + 83 (Main Battery Modification 1)+ 333 (Gun Fire Control System Modification 1) = 5516 doubloons, which offers a value of 276 doubloons for each Euro spent. Here are the statistics of the Błyskawica: Taken from http://wows-numbers.com/ship/3769513264,B%C5%82yskawica/ Differences to its closest competitor, the Kiev:Pros:- 4 gun configuration- 7,7 KM concealment instead of 9 KM- 4 KM more torpedo range- Better turning circle (610m vs 690m)- Much lower concealment penalty for shooting (around 3,6 KM - 4 KM)Cons:- Lower rate of fire (72 vs 80 shots per minute fully upgraded)- 0,4 KM less range- 120mm caliber- Less torpedoes (6 vs. 10) which are slower (57 vs. 70 knots)- Lower top speed (39 vs. 42,5 knots)- Worse rudder shift time (4,6s vs 3,8s assuming both are fully ugpraded)- Worse AA (30 AA DPS vs. 78)- 300 HP lessA worthy competitor to the Kiev despite its lower speed, caliber, range and AA due to the better concealment and torpedo range. Projectile speed and arc are on par with Russian DDs. At the current point in time I would consider the Kiev superior, but this may change if the planned Kiev nerfs are implemented.Feel free to post a comparison to the Mahan. I have practically no experience playing US DDs myself. Edited December 20, 2015 by Kurbain 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWladCZ Players 200 posts 9,103 battles Report post #2 Posted December 20, 2015 With Tirpitz coming in 5 days we will see WG has been dodging around it with every premium they had even the #&ing Mikasa that somebody sane would buy. Well see then if bundle circus is really over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #3 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) It appears your prayers have been answered. Is this the dawn of a new era? I don t think so. Last time it was offered for 30 euros (if I remember right), so only 10 euros more, and I think it did not sell too well. Basically it is just an attempt to milk the Polish community, because it has no use as a premium ship to train captains, which makes it the most useless premium ship available. A Polish tree is not even planned. Edited December 20, 2015 by 22cm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aldramelech Beta Tester 1,753 posts Report post #4 Posted December 20, 2015 This appears to be a step in the right direction and a possible sign we might have been listened to, time will tell, I await next weeks offer with interest. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Takru Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster, Privateer 3,851 posts 23,963 battles Report post #5 Posted December 20, 2015 I don t think so. Last time it was offered for 30 euros (if I remember right), so only 10 euros more, and I think it did not sell too well. Basically it is just an attempt to milk the Polish community, because it has no use as a premium ship to train captains, which makes it the most useless premium ship available. A Polish tree is not even planned. The training captain aspect really is totally unimportant. On the other hand, she is a decend ship and even the modules in the 20€ package are useful for her. Heck, it's a bundle where you can make use of all it's components. That in itself is basically revolutionary in that premium shop. AND you got to choose between two variants of bundles for the ship, with one being basically the ship only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] ShockPirat Beta Tester 814 posts 27,529 battles Report post #6 Posted December 20, 2015 Blyska was relatively cheap the last time it was sold too, so I doubt this changes anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PKTZS] JapLance Weekend Tester 2,567 posts 18,265 battles Report post #7 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) That's a very reasonable price for a tier 7 vehicle. Tanks and planes of the same tier are sold for around 25€. Only 2 things keep me from pushing the Purchase button.The first is that I haven't played for weeks, and don't really feel the "need for ships". The second is that a Polish ship is not really useful, as there's not going to be a national tree (at least I don't think so). There's even a third one, and it's that I'm not a DD player, even though I think this gunboats could be used like a mini cruiser. Still 4 days to think about it. Bought it in the end. God knows how long will we have to wait for a similar deal from WG. Edited December 20, 2015 by JapLance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #8 Posted December 20, 2015 The second is that a Polish ship is not really useful, as there's not going to be a national tree (at least I don't think so). Totally agreed. First reason being maybe save 20 euros for probably Tone... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #9 Posted December 20, 2015 That's a very reasonable price for a tier 7 vehicle. Tanks and planes of the same tier are sold for around 25€. Only 2 things keep me from pushing the Purchase button.The first is that I haven't played for weeks, and don't really feel the "need for ships". The second is that a Polish ship is not really useful, as there's not going to be a national tree (at least I don't think so). There's even a third one, and it's that I'm not a DD player, even though I think this gunboats could be used like a mini cruiser. Still 4 days to think about it. It IS small cruiser with solid stealth firing capabilities and workable torpedoes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] von_chom Alpha Tester 3,465 posts 11,649 battles Report post #10 Posted December 20, 2015 imho its matter of time when it come to ingame shop or someone heard something different from WG? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #11 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) imho its matter of time when it come to ingame shop or someone heard something different from WG? I do not think any more premium ships are coming to ingame shop... Edited December 20, 2015 by 22cm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Takru Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster, Privateer 3,851 posts 23,963 battles Report post #12 Posted December 20, 2015 I do not think any more premium ships are coming to ingame shop... Remember that the days between christmas and New Year are still holidays. When we look at the event calender: http://worldofwarships.eu/en/content/event-calendar/ We see two events: 24 December-07 January: New Year's Gift Secret Holidays Special Event Battle Mission: The Men of Emden STARTS 24 December at 06:10 CET (UTC+1) ENDS 7 January at 06:00 CET (UTC+1) 26 December-02 January: Happy Holiday! x3 XP First Win Bonus Holidays Special Event All kinds of discounts and in-game bonuses - more info to come later! Battle Mission 1: Happy Holiday! Battle Mission 2: I Need More Flags! Battle Mission 3: The Reward for the Effort STARTS 26 December at 06:10 CET (UTC+1) ENDS 2 January at 06:00 CET (UTC+1) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #13 Posted December 20, 2015 Remember that the days between christmas and New Year are still holidays. When we look at the event calender: http://worldofwarships.eu/en/content/event-calendar/ We see two events: 24 December-07 January: New Year's Gift Secret Holidays Special Event Battle Mission: The Men of Emden STARTS 24 December at 06:10 CET (UTC+1) ENDS 7 January at 06:00 CET (UTC+1) 26 December-02 January: Happy Holiday! x3 XP First Win Bonus Holidays Special Event All kinds of discounts and in-game bonuses - more info to come later! Battle Mission 1: Happy Holiday! Battle Mission 2: I Need More Flags! Battle Mission 3: The Reward for the Effort STARTS 26 December at 06:10 CET (UTC+1) ENDS 2 January at 06:00 CET (UTC+1) I think he was referring to new ships that you can buy using doubloons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #14 Posted December 20, 2015 I think he was referring to new ships that you can buy using doubloons. Yes, dubloons are pretty much useless these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #15 Posted December 20, 2015 Yes, dubloons are pretty much useless these days. Port slots and free XP is probably the only valid use of doubloons right now. Buying credits remains horrendously wasteful just like in WoT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #16 Posted December 20, 2015 I don t think so. Last time it was offered for 30 euros (if I remember right), so only 10 euros more, and I think it did not sell too well. Basically it is just an attempt to milk the Polish community, because it has no use as a premium ship to train captains, which makes it the most useless premium ship available. A Polish tree is not even planned. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gizaman Beta Tester 296 posts 3,981 battles Report post #17 Posted December 20, 2015 Not spending a single cent before the aim assist is removed from the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aldramelech Beta Tester 1,753 posts Report post #18 Posted December 20, 2015 It's a solid little ship and lots of fun and that's all the reason you need to buy it. Plays like a small CA and makes you lots of silver. This is possibly the first solid deal we have been offered in a good long time, I recommend it. Liljumpa, we agree again! Give into your hate, join me and we can rule the forum as father and son................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #19 Posted December 20, 2015 Liljumpa, we agree again! Give into your hate, join me and we can rule the forum as father and son................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DPRK] Niaro Beta Tester 298 posts Report post #20 Posted December 20, 2015 Same price as last time.. wich is ok for a T7 i guess.. The only issues i have with it is that you only can polish a polish captain with it. and that the murmansk is prob. still better for making money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Takru Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster, Privateer 3,851 posts 23,963 battles Report post #21 Posted December 20, 2015 Nah, Blys can make equally good money, most likely more unless you end up on Ocean map. Quite astonishing though. People have complained for months that they want at least the choice between buying bundles and just the ship. Now WG does exactly that and they're still hearing complaints. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Why would they ever do what the tiny fraction of their community call for on the forums when that is the kind of reaction they're getting? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #22 Posted December 20, 2015 Same price as last time.. wich is ok for a T7 i guess.. The only issues i have with it is that you only can polish a polish captain with it. and that the murmansk is prob. still better for making money. Murmansk will probably be better for credit grinding than most premiums for the foreseeable future. It's even on par with Atago if you don't run premium account. Only the Torpitz can really outperform it in credit gain. A DD will always be difficult to get a reliable income out of since it relies very much on circumstances to get cap points and damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #23 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) Takru, on 20 December 2015 - 09:33 AM, said: Quite astonishing though. People have complained for months that they want at least the choice between buying bundles and just the ship. Now WG does exactly that and they're still hearing complaints. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Why would they ever do what the tiny fraction of their community call for on the forums when that is the kind of reaction they're getting? Takru, this is the most useless premium ship available. Show me the same kind of deal on Tirpitz and then we re talking. Niaro, on 20 December 2015 - 09:25 AM, said: Same price as last time.. wich is ok for a T7 i guess.. I ll actually check. Edited December 20, 2015 by BigBadVuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DPRK] Niaro Beta Tester 298 posts Report post #24 Posted December 20, 2015 I ll actually check. Damn i was wrong :p 30 last time.. but back then it had 2k gold and 7days prem added to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #25 Posted December 20, 2015 Nah, Blys can make equally good money, most likely more unless you end up on Ocean map. Quite astonishing though. People have complained for months that they want at least the choice between buying bundles and just the ship. Now WG does exactly that and they're still hearing complaints. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Why would they ever do what the tiny fraction of their community call for on the forums when that is the kind of reaction they're getting? Considering Błyskawica can fire unspotted from day one, I don't see issues with Ocean map whatsoever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites