Anyone else hate [edited] [edited]Battleship drivers?!

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

Im not trying to Troll here im just so [edited] frustrated! I been grinding Ranged battles for ages now and i take one step forward and two steps backward. Why you ask? Cowardly Battleships captains that dont seem to get that cruising around the mapborders and snipe from afar like they are used to in Random battles doesnt really work in Ranked where you have to play aggresive and follow youre team and cap the caps. 

But NOOOOO, we have all this HP and these big guns so we can hide easy or maybe just take the scenic route around the map while the rest off the team get totally nuked by the other team whos Battleship drivers actually goes for the objective and sail WITH their fleet and they actually survive ..... and WIN !?

 

Seriously, how many Ranked battles have you played wich ended with whole team gone and 2 BBs are still alive at full health mind you, 80% off the enemy team are still alive and they have both caps!

 

Im wondering. Why do BB players play like this? Dont they wanna win? Dont they wanna rank up (or down actually)? Dont they get how Ranked work? Why is the ships with the most armour and most HP most afraid off taking damage? 

 

Last battle i lost right now me and a Kongo was facing 2 DDs a Furutaka and a N.W. I killed the 2 DDs in my Cleveland for our Battleship, both their CA and BB focused on me offcourse. I manage to Citidell Furutaka to death so now we are 2 vs 1. So i think we got this so i turn around and start to machinegun the BB, during this my BB friend thinks its a good idea to run away instead off helping me with the enemy. So i fight for my life alone and manage to start a few fires on the N.M but after a while he killes me and they win by points.

 

My point is Ranked would be so much easier if BBs didnt qualify, then you actually got a team that sailed together like a fleet ..... or ....like a team! And you would win!

 

I never play BBs myself, but can someone that does please tell my why you are afraid with all that HP?

 

 

[Seaman_Staines1]

It might be the high cost of repair or the very high cost if you are sunk.

I agree it is so frustrating when you have a good chance of wining only to be left alone and defenseless in a DD or CA. Had games I have sung 3 ships in my CA just me and the BBs left on our side. Thw BBs have no damage and have not fired a shot in the game.

Come on BB captains pull your weight. 

[txtspeak]

when I play BB. I dont play ranked. but yeah I am not an aggressive tanky soak-up-all-the-damage battleship because the second I am spotted I see over 9000 shells flying through the air towards me, I get shot a million times and die very quickly

[Xevious_Red]

I love BB that sit at the back. Because I mostly play BB, and love going forward, so seeing an enemy border hugger makes my life easy - I can proceed to murder their team while they float around ineffectively. 

 

Main reason I took BB for ranked is because I didn't want to be dependent on someone else to provide heavy support. Works both ways though: you'd be amazed how much capping I need to do to secure victory because the teams DD fancies having a firefight with a Cleveland........

[Seaman_Staines1]

I love BB that sit at the back. Because I mostly play BB, and love going forward, so seeing an enemy border hugger makes my life easy - I can proceed to murder their team while they float around ineffectively. 

 

Main reason I took BB for ranked is because I didn't want to be dependent on someone else to provide heavy support. Works both ways though: you'd be amazed how much capping I need to do to secure victory because the teams DD fancies having a firefight with a ........

 

Are you as a BB driver not happy that the DD keeps that nasty Cleveland away from you with all the nasty HE it has?

[Xevious_Red]

 

Are you as a BB driver not happy that the DD keeps that nasty Cleveland away from you with all the nasty HE it has?

 

Never really understood the HE fuss. At long range the Cleveland mostly misses because I have a rudder too. At medium range he can hit me, but I can hit it. It can't repair, I can. I have a ton more health than it, can put out fires, and with 4 heals he's dead before I have needed to move onto the second heal. At close range it's simply dead.

[Kurbain]

 

Are you as a BB driver not happy that the DD keeps that nasty Cleveland away from you with all the nasty HE it has?

 

I never had any problems with Clevelands in my Fuso or Nagato.

 

1.) Their 155 mm often does 0 damage when it hits you.

2.) If they show their broadside to get all guns locked on you can punish them heavily for it.

3.) Their shots can be dodged even in a BB because of the bad arc.

 

Whenever I tank I always move left and right all the time, making a lot of shots from cruisers miss. I never have much of a problem with them.

Either the cruisers stay at long range in order to be able to dodge shots, but then they have a hard time hitting me and do barely any damage, or they move in close, can do decent damage, but I will give them a citadel hit in return in most cases. Sometimes I only get overpenetrations unfortunately.

[praetor_jax]

Since this playstyle is possible with battleships there are neccessarily going to be people playing like this... because onlinegaming and stuff :/

Just look at people with sniperrifles in shooter-games... 90% of them just sit somewhere and camp because "thats how its supposed to be played, hurrdurr".

 

Edit:

And yes, i hate those people with a passion - and i play mostly BBs. I try to stay close to the battle but more often than not i die together with the smaller ships because the other BBs are just derping around in the back.

[Azalgor]

Then again, repair cost is one thing, but going first to tank, only to find out noone folowed you to provide support is more of a reason why a lot of BB stay behind and try to snipe instead of sacrificing themselves.

But dont worry, with the BB nerf next patch, you probably wont see losts of them anyway, and those you will, probably will be even more afraid and unwilling to dive into the frame of battle, because of invisible torps and another DD number increase in games due to their buff.

 

[Seaman_Staines1]

 

Never really understood the HE fuss. At long range the Cleveland mostly misses because I have a rudder too. At medium range he can hit me, but I can hit it. It can't repair, I can. I have a ton more health than it, can put out fires, and with 4 heals he's dead before I have needed to move onto the second heal. At close range it's simply dead.

 

I have never understood the fuss the BB drivers make about HE, but BB drivers are the ones throwing the teddy in the corner over CAs and HE.

[Gunship14]

When you see the enemy team with 4 shimas, naturally, you aren't gonna push. 

[Stugga]

Note: If they allow for in-game stats to show like XVM stats in World of Tanks this will get even 10 times more worse.

[EsaTuunanen]

My point is Ranked would be so much easier if BBs didnt qualify, then you actually got a team that sailed together like a fleet

Getting star from victory should need earning it with certain amount of damage or then with XP from capping. (or maybe some "spotting damage" mechanism)

Basically almost all the problems in ranked come from AFKs/bots/comatose potatoes being able to fail they way up by parasitizing those who know how to play.

Like that New York getting totally undeserved star:

 

 

Main reason I took BB for ranked is because I didn't want to be dependent on someone else to provide heavy support. Works both ways though: you'd be amazed how much capping I need to do to secure victory because the teams DD fancies having a firefight with a Cleveland........

Well driven BB can definitely dish out heavy damage but if enemy has semi-competent DDs and your team is incompetent in "anti-DD" you'll be eventually hurried in dodging torps.

 

Capping should be first priority for DDs when ever game mode involves that to just stay even with enemy.

But beyond that hurting any enemy is plus for the team... if you can do it reasonably safely.

Trust me, you wouldn't want to face my Gremy in Cleveland one on one.

[Seaman_Staines1]

When you see the enemy team with 4 shimas, naturally, you aren't gonna push. 

 

Do I read from this that if the enemy team has 4 or more DDs the BBs should go back to port. If the CAs do there job right we will have BBs and CAs all at the back doing nothing and the DDs going forward with no support. That sort of game would be no fun and over rather fast.

[_Lawine_]

real problem is high repair costs, nobody wants to damaged or sunk

[AwesomeChicken]

Do you really want to rank up?

Because it gets just worse there

[Kirasa]

real problem is high repair costs, nobody wants to damaged or sunk

 

This is just a lame excuse.

 

If you are afraid of repair costs you shouldn't play high tiers.

[EsaTuunanen]

real problem is high repair costs, nobody wants to damaged or sunk

At tier 5 and 6 those are totally insignificant for everyone even remotely half decent at shooting enemy.

[Gunship14]

 

This is just a lame excuse.

 

If you are afraid of repair costs you shouldn't play high tiers.

"Oh I paid for premium subscription/free exp to make the grind to high tiers easier. Think I'll just take Kirasa's advice and, I don't know, stop playing half of the game! Yeah..."

[Seaman_Staines1]

 

This is just a lame excuse.

 

If you are afraid of repair costs you shouldn't play high tiers.

 

It's only "a lame excuse" if you can afford it, if not then it is a reasonable thing to think about.

[Kirasa]

"Oh I paid for premium subscription/free exp to make the grind to high tiers easier. Think I'll just take Kirasa's advice and, I don't know, stop playing half of the game! Yeah..."

 

I haven't had one day of prem time that I didn't got for free from WG.

 

 

It IS a lame excuse.

If you want to play high Tiers you either get a creds-farm ship, that can be a mid Tier ship or a prem, or you get a prem account. Who cares. Just get your creds there so that you can play High Tiers not as a chicken afraid of getting a dent in the paint but without a thought on the costs the match will bring you.

 

 

Apart from the fact that WG is upping the creds you get in high Tiers in a way it's more or less borderline impossible to get out of the match with a minus...

[Gunship14]

 

I haven't had one day of prem time that I didn't got for free from WG.

 

 

It IS a lame excuse.

If you want to play high Tiers you either get a creds-farm ship, that can be a mid Tier ship or a prem, or you get a prem account. Who cares. Just get your creds there so that you can play High Tiers not as a chicken afraid of getting a dent in the paint but without a thought on the costs the match will bring you.

 

 

Apart from the fact that WG is upping the creds you get in high Tiers in a way it's more or less borderline impossible to get out of the match with a minus...

I'm not speaking for myself here. I have no problem losing 100-300k for spending a few hours playing high tiers. I even earn credits sometimes. But the repair costs are something which affect your decision making and your risk taking in the battle. Unless you have 10m and you really don't need it for anything/don't care what happens to it, you'll be making sure to minimise any unnecessary repair costs. I get this is how the system works, and I've accepted it, but we all have to also accept that players will react differently.

 

Telling someone who finally reached that Iowa he's been eyeing since July or something to just stop playing it is a ridiculous suggestion, no matter how you try to justify it.

[IamTroublemaker]

I hate people who never properly played BBs and then call out other BB players, telling them how they should play...

[Adwaenyth]

I never play BBs myself, but can someone that does please tell my why you are afraid with all that HP?

 

Well the Kongo is a rather fragile BB being a battlecruiser. In a 4 vs 2 it is usually the right idea to keep your distance. The New Mexico you rather don't want to engage at point blank in a Kongo also...

 

He should have tried to stay at 13-14 km though and angled his hull once the CA was also dead. If the BB continues to focus you and he can't put in enough damage he still has the option to turn and run at that distance.

[LetsRockAndRoll]

Getting star from victory should need earning it with certain amount of damage or then with XP from capping. (or maybe some "spotting damage" mechanism)

Basically almost all the problems in ranked come from AFKs/bots/comatose potatoes being able to fail they way up by parasitizing those who know how to play.

Like that New York getting totally undeserved star:

 

 

I agree with this. It's clear from the start of a battle that some players have no intention of getting there shiny cammo scratched and expect to be carried by the rest of the team.

There is a way to solve this. Only award stars to those who earn for example 1000 xp or above. Then only those who have made an effort are being rewarded.