Teamkillers - to team kill or not to kill?(or maybe go afk)

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

Hello forum

 

First off I believe this section is appropriate since teamkillers have big impact on the gameplay

It's been like 3 weeks now since the first time I wanted to write this but every time I was like not today. After losing few battles in a row and having nothing else to do now I'm in a mood to start this

 

If a teamkiller starts shooting at you and you do not do anything(that what most people think you should do with wg itself) you 1) lose the fun of that game. 2) You letting your team down because your team has now -1 ship and a teamkiller who starts shooting another player. 3) If you try to fight back a teamkiller you get pink colour too... Are you for real bro? Seriously if someone gets pink then it's he's own fault if he gets teamkilled next battle Nobody gets pink for one accidental torpedo teamkill or few shells. And if you kill 2 or more friendly ships in one battle by an accident then maybe it's time to play co-op duno, not my fault that you do more damage to your own team than to the enemy.

 

 

It's different when teamkiller is not pink yet and I would not mind to get pink too for shooting him back. But when someone is pink already and is still shooting teammates shouldn't be autokick for too too many friendly ship hits? Instead you can be pink teamkill or team damage and still not be kicked and use chat... How is this even possible wg? 

 

The only good thing is that it doesn't happen too often. In more than 1k battles I encountered pink players from time to time but only like  4-5 times when they were shooting directly at me or someone near me.

 

TL DR

 

If a pink player(teamkiller) shoots at you, you should not get pink colour for shooting him back.

[anonym_gCiyicUsNYGl]

a couple of days ago, i got pink name when i asked for AA support because i was playing nagato.

so what happened afterwards? the myoko in my team tried to kill me with torps because he didn't want "orders".

i lost 80% of my hp and i returned 30k back at him and it gave me a pink name (he didn't get it).

 

it took me 15 battles to get rid of the pink name.

now what happened in some of those 15 battles? i got team killed three times by sub 50% winrate players and their average damage per battle is 3 times less than mine.

 

you shoot/torp pink names = you should get a 24 hours ban.

pink name shoots/torps you = he or she should get a 24 hours ban

 

if you want to kill players with a pink name, you're not a better person

[KptStrzyga]

 

if you want to kill players with a pink name, you're not a better person

But he is not part of your team, he is shooting your team, he is threat for your team therefore he is your enemy! 

I think we should get no penalty for killing TKers. Like in tonks. We should be able to defend ourselfs. 

[Seaman_Staines1]

I kill the pink ones on my team right at the start "if I can".  I think the team should open up on them before the scum has a chance do do any damage. Lots of fun for us no fun for them. As punishment make all the pink ones play on the same map for a week.   LET IT BE...

 

[GeneralHorstPital]

Are teamkillers really that much of a problem ? 
I mean, sure it is annoying, but in my 1300 matches I have only seen 3 pink players, and only one of them continued to attack his teammates. Overall, I have been teamkilled only twice, and both were carelessly fired torpedos.

 

That´s an honest question. If you read the forums, you can get the impression that there are teamkillers in every other match. So I´m not sure if I am only extremely lucky or if these reports are just exaggerated.

 

With that said, I agree that pink players should face some harsher punishment, but not by other players. WG could do something like if you turn pink, you stay pink for 10 matches. In those matches you only earn half XP and half silver (or maybe even none at all). If you continue teamkilling while pink, you are banned from the game for 24 hours.

[KptStrzyga]

They are not that common, but they are extremly annoying! 

 

[OldGrandad]

Are teamkillers really that much of a problem ? 

I mean, sure it is annoying, but in my 1300 matches I have only seen 3 pink players, and only one of them continued to attack his teammates. Overall, I have been teamkilled only twice, and both were carelessly fired torpedos.

 

That´s an honest question. If you read the forums, you can get the impression that there are teamkillers in every other match. So I´m not sure if I am only extremely lucky or if these reports are just exaggerated.

 

With that said, I agree that pink players should face some harsher punishment, but not by other players. WG could do something like if you turn pink, you stay pink for 10 matches. In those matches you only earn half XP and half silver (or maybe even none at all). If you continue teamkilling while pink, you are banned from the game for 24 hours.

 

Considering there are only a few of the population that actually post here, and we see quite a few reports of team killing, I would say from that there are more (T/Kers) out there than we imagine. My friend reported a 4x teamkiller in one game yesterday and immediately came across another one in the next battle. But, we have to be careful here, as although we see some players with a minus one, and they are NOT pink, we have to assume stupidity was the cause unless it was witnessed as a deliberate act.

But, in saying that, for me personally in my average amount of battles I would say I have witnessed under 10 so far. Still, too many..............

[OVanBruce]

I'm probably the luckyest player here the: I could count with the fingers of one hand the times I've been attacked by a team killer and the pink guys I've gotten very rarely try something funny.

[EsaTuunanen]

Are teamkillers really that much of a problem ? 

I mean, sure it is annoying, but in my 1300 matches I have only seen 3 pink players, and only one of them continued to attack his teammates.

I've yet to directly see pink player attacking own team.

Last such player in New Mexico actually came clearly second in score playing well.

 

But I've seen half dozen players deliberately launching torps into friendlies (including me) from point blank range usually at start of the match or starting shoot others with guns and maybe only once remember them turning pink.

[T0rad]

I also didnt meet a whole lot of em. none was hostile (or maybe once i got murmans, some aoba hit me for not believing in premium ships i think). I did accidentaly kill some of my teammates, especially other destros. I also think some of them flew in my torps deliberately. Never went pink though. And a harsher punishment is in place. much harsher than you wrote. The pink teamkiller should pay reparations of twice the repair cost of friendly ship and xp that would come out of doing such damage in the match. The XP to be subdued from pinks free, than ship XP. 

 

But noone should be unpunished for attacking a pink. Law is for justice, not revenge. better get hurt and then compensated. 

[Zathras_Grimm]

I kill the pink ones on my team right at the start "if I can".  I think the team should open up on them before the scum has a chance do do any damage. Lots of fun for us no fun for them. As punishment make all the pink ones play on the same map for a week.   LET IT BE...

But when you finally get pink for shooting the 'evil' pink player, how will people know you're a 'good' pink player. Won't the team think you are scum too?

If there isn't a form of ban that removes such a player I'm not sure how to handle a team killer. Do any other games handle team killers in a positive way?

[Risalan]

Are people who deserves being killed by a teammate. A IJN tier VIII+ who launch torps with 15K+ range and stops in max torp range and launches torps only from static position, don't deserves being killed by teammate?

 

Some people must learn the hard way. If they are smart will ask why I being killed by a teammate.

 

Another example BB IV Wyoming top tier makes division with a CV and both hiding behind an island in domination mode, I kill the wyoming after hard battle with enemy without support and he kill me both pink. The CV has no fault so wasn't fired.

 

If people don't want team play don't play team games otherwise will be shoting be me when I found them.

 

PD. I hope the report system in 0.5.2 will do this job for me.

 

PD. I don't shot pink players for being just pink, I asume they are like me.

[ilhilh]

I kill the pink ones on my team right at the start "if I can".  I think the team should open up on them before the scum has a chance do do any damage. Lots of fun for us no fun for them. As punishment make all the pink ones play on the same map for a week.   LET IT BE...

 

That is a stupid attitude.  If a pink player on my team is going play nice then I'll let him live.  I'll probably have my guns trained on him until I'm sure but there is no point wasting time killing someone who could easily help your team.  In my time play WoWs I have perhaps seen 10 pink players and only 1 was deliberately attacking team members - and he was an idiot who told everyone it was his plan when the countdown was still going so he lasted about 30 seconds.

[GrumpyWorm]

Actually i dont see reasons for any doubt here. EULA is clear:

 

4. Inappropriate conduct in-game/Fair play principles

The following actions are prohibited in game:

4.01. Intentionally damaging allied ships (team damage).

4.02. Intentionally destroying allied ships (team kill).

 

 

Please take note that it doesnt says it is ok to shoot back at ally who attacked you first.

 

 

[Zathras_Grimm]

Actually i dont see reasons for any doubt here. EULA is clear:

 

4. Inappropriate conduct in-game/Fair play principles

The following actions are prohibited in game:

4.01. Intentionally damaging allied ships (team damage).

4.02. Intentionally destroying allied ships (team kill).

 

 

Please take note that it doesnt says it is ok to shoot back at ally who attacked you first.

 

 

 

? Not sure anyone is disputing this. The main thrust is it still happens, so when the instructions/rules issued are not adhered to what should or is being done? Could you possibly comment on this aspect please? 

 

Edit: It's great having rules as long as they're inforced by consequences should they be broken. I dont even want to see a 'pink' player, the player should just be suspended for a number of days. The hope that the shame of being pink will punish a player is not working.

[IamTroublemaker]

Just kill him.

 

 

I have a guy on my blacklist (not allowed to say his nick unfortunately) who teamkilled me on purpose like a month or two ago (and thats how he got on my blacklist). Then we exchanged a few words in next few battles, so, last night I was in a division, we saw the guy with us in the team, he was in Gearing. As soon as the game started he pointed his guns at me (Montana) and said some words to me (tbh cannot remember what exactly) and I just ignored him, and as soon as I got into action, he got on my side and fired 1 salvo of torps at me, I didn't pay too much attention since I thought those were opponent torps, but a few seconds before they hit me I saw those were his torps and 4 torps from the salvo hit me. I kept ignoring him. Then he fired another one that hit me, and almost finished me and so I was dead in a few seconds with a huge repair bill to pay. He didn't even turn pink. Therefor, from now on, every time I see him in battle I will kill him. Since he can do so much damage to me, in a few instances and not get banned, I guess so can I to him

 

 

Message of this story? Kill those damn goldfish IQ players.

 

EDIT: The teamkiller punishment system is as broken as it is anyway

[OldGrandad]

Just kill him.

 

I have a guy on my blacklist (not allowed to say his nick unfortunately) who teamkilled me on purpose like a month or two ago (and thats how he got on my blacklist). Then we exchanged a few words in next few battles, so, last night I was in a division, we saw the guy with us in the team, he was in Gearing. As soon as the game started he pointed his guns at me (Montana) and said some words to me (tbh cannot remember what exactly) and I just ignored him, and as soon as I got into action, he got on my side and fired 1 salvo of torps at me, I didn't pay too much attention since I thought those were opponent torps, but a few seconds before they hit me I saw those were his torps and 4 torps from the salvo hit me. I kept ignoring him. Then he fired another one that hit me, and almost finished me and so I was dead in a few seconds with a huge repair bill to pay. He didn't even turn pink. Therefor, from now on, every time I see him in battle I will kill him. Since he can do so much damage to me, in a few instances and not get banned, I guess so can I to him

 

Message of this story? Kill those damn goldfish IQ players.

 

EDIT: The teamkiller punishment system is as broken as it is anyway

 

Troublemaker, if I could I would pass over a few thousand credits to you to help with your credit bill. You behaved impeccably, as ignoring a troll often inflames them more than any retort you would/could have given. If he is like that with you I am sure no doubt he is with others so ultimately he will pay the price.

[IamTroublemaker]

 

Troublemaker, if I could I would pass over a few thousand credits to you to help with your credit bill. You behaved impeccably, as ignoring a troll often inflames them more than any retort you would/could have given. If he is like that with you I am sure no doubt he is with others so ultimately he will pay the price.

 

It is not a problem that I got teamkilled, but the fact that if one teamkills, has a good game afterwards he ends up with a positive amount of credits while me, who got teamkilled really quickly into game loses 150-250k credits. Since he didn't turn pink nor got a ban, he basically got out of it without a scratch. This just proves that the punishment system is bad and bypassable as some people with more than a few hundred teamkills are still playing.

 

EDIT: If ignoring him wont help, so won't arguing with him because then other players will be affected as well. The only thing I can do is being sarcastic towards him, which I haven't tested out yet

[SDGsteve]

 

It is not a problem that I got teamkilled, but the fact that if one teamkills, has a good game afterwards he ends up with a positive amount of credits while me, who got teamkilled really quickly into game loses 150-250k credits. Since he didn't turn pink nor got a ban, he basically got out of it without a scratch. This just proves that the punishment system is bad and bypassable as some people with more than a few hundred teamkills are still playing.

 

EDIT: If ignoring him wont help, so won't arguing with him because then other players will be affected as well. The only thing I can do is being sarcastic towards him, which I haven't tested out yet

 

Its a shame that anyone has to put up with this type of player surly there is something that can be done, i have got a couple of team kills (by accident)

and have never turmed pink (wouldent want too) so accidents do happen but surly WG can sort out the good form the bad and see anyone who has alot of team kills is ruining there GAME and alot of peoples enjoyment I beleive there sohuld be 0 TOLERANCE for deliberate team killing / team damage

 

There are some weird persons about now days

 

 

 

 

 

[tw53]

I thought it was bad here but you should try the OTHER( that shall not be mentioned) game to see TKrs, every other game the is at least 1 blue player...I play just for a laugh( and subs)

[MaxxyNL]

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Keyboard broken? 

[Finnka]

I have been 1 time teamkilled on purpose - in EU server. Thousands of games played. (1600 NA + 600 Eu). Accidentaly 2 - 4 times. Teamkill is not a issue. Gamecrashes kill me more than teamkills.

[IamTroublemaker]

I have been 1 time teamkilled on purpose - in EU server. Thousands of games played. (1600 NA + 600 Eu). Accidentaly 2 - 4 times. Teamkill is not a issue. Gamecrashes kill me more than teamkills.

 

Consider yourself lucky then. I have been teamkilled  deliberately quite a few times.Twice by one same guy that has a special place on my blacklist . Can't even count how many times accidentally.

[robertsrevenge]

getting fed up with these players the best option is turn on friendly fire then no one on your team can hurt you its a no brainer period about time wg done something but as usual they ???? then we get pissed off then leave come back or not  a few months time , revenue lost for wg perhaps they should have gone specsavers

[EsaTuunanen]

Can't even count how many times accidentally.

Because of playing DD since start of open for everyone WoWs I've been team killed less than ten times.

But once twice in a same day.

First by that second line torping cruiser and then one salvo shot from full health by cruiser (player named by game was on cruiser) aiming who knows what when closest enemy (BB) was fair 2km away... and I just had perfectly avoided one turret salvo of it whiel closing for sure kill.