ShipComrade Players 131 posts 31 battles Report post #1 Posted December 9, 2015 Mikhail Kutuzov : Russian Cruiser VIII : Wargaming API Stats click image 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PANEU] kfa Beta Tester 1,975 posts 13,875 battles Report post #2 Posted December 10, 2015 Looks pretty horrible to me, it is basicly a 155mm Mogami with 20% less firepower, worse range and worse torpedos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #3 Posted December 10, 2015 Could it be that they've made a mistake and it's actually a T7? I think it would fit much better there... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #4 Posted December 10, 2015 Could it be that they've made a mistake and it's actually a T7? I think it would fit much better there... if even that... looks like a Cleveland with worse AA but 2x5 torpedoes (and probably better shell arcs admittedly...) to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #5 Posted December 10, 2015 if even that... looks like a Cleveland with worse AA but 2x5 torpedoes (and probably better shell arcs admittedly...) to me Don't think the AA is weaker than on Cleve, the DPS is quite strong and the range is good. As for arcs, I strongly believe they will be much much better on this ship than on Cleve and the torps seems relatively good, 8 km is fine for a CA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #6 Posted December 10, 2015 Like I posted in the other thread: Nope.png Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurbain Players 1,976 posts 2,773 battles Report post #7 Posted December 10, 2015 This ship definitely has its issues, but I wouldn't say its the main armament.Range will be fine with AFT (unless they actually decide to change it) and due to the higher fire rate and much better turret traverse speed its primary guns can be considered equal to the Mogami. That's the only thing it got going for it, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #8 Posted December 10, 2015 Another thing is: tier 8 premium cruiser... when high tier games are dominated by BBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Takru Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster, Privateer 3,851 posts 23,972 battles Report post #9 Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) Apparently we may see this ship in action after tonight's patch. Once the advanced tech tree mod is available, we'll be able to better understand what this ship is about. And if it really isn't good at all, WG might fix it in time before it's being sold. Torp firing angle could be decend as well. May be 120° to each side? Edited December 10, 2015 by Takru Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #10 Posted December 10, 2015 Apparently we may see this ship in action after tonight's patch. Once the advanced tech tree mod is available, we'll be able to better understand what this ship is about. And if it really isn't good at all, WG might fix it in time before it's being sold. Torp firing angle could be decend as well. May be 120° to each side? Sadly it's ~80° to each side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Pekoe_Darjeeling Weekend Tester 2,385 posts 10,008 battles Report post #11 Posted December 10, 2015 Another premium floating citadel... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurbain Players 1,976 posts 2,773 battles Report post #12 Posted December 10, 2015 Another thing is: tier 8 premium cruiser... when high tier games are dominated by BBs. Well, the Atago is doing pretty good these days from what I've heard since the recent buffs.Maybe the Kutuzov will have the regeneration ability as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Takru Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster, Privateer 3,851 posts 23,972 battles Report post #13 Posted December 10, 2015 The few T8+ games I played were pretty mixed with all ship classes ... Anyway, looking forward to a new ship in the game. The more the better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4R4Z Players 151 posts Report post #14 Posted December 10, 2015 Looks pretty horrible to me, it is basicly a 155mm Mogami with 20% less firepower, worse range and worse torpedos. No. Product of Sacred Mother Russia simply cannot be horrible ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AXS] sovergein Players 60 posts 14,484 battles Report post #15 Posted December 10, 2015 Hmm this ship launch in 1954. Nice WG its time launch new modern era ship. Absolute terrible balanced game. Yees. I have idea. Take USS Zumwalt to game. Its time to removed torpedos and launch many missiles. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #16 Posted December 10, 2015 Hmm this ship launch in 1954. Nice WG its time launch new modern era ship. Absolute terrible balanced game. Of course, all Russian ships must be stronk! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Takru Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster, Privateer 3,851 posts 23,972 battles Report post #17 Posted December 10, 2015 It's a guncruiser, what are you complaining about? It'll have comparable guns while not being able to use any tech advantages it might have had IRL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] C4PT41N_0BV10US Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 4,583 posts 15,668 battles Report post #18 Posted December 10, 2015 Considering Kutuzow with it's technology is, well, WW II level of technology, I think it doesn't matter. Stats reflect that kinda nice. Will see how it fares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #19 Posted December 10, 2015 Another thing is: tier 8 premium cruiser... when high tier games are dominated by BBs. Ahhh, the "CA mafia" again. If the high tier games were dominated by BBs only, don't you think that adding a T8 premium cruiser would reduce that since a lot of people will by and play that cruiser? And just so you know, they are dominated by DDs now, but I understand, even if WG removes BBs, people would still say "BB mafia", "too much BBs in high tiers"! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HNS] Sonic_157 Players 727 posts 18,147 battles Report post #20 Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) Hmm this ship launch in 1954. Nice WG its time launch new modern era ship. Absolute terrible balanced game. Yees. I have idea. Take USS Zumwalt to game. Its time to removed torpedos and launch many missiles. You can also check this thread: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/37437-new-tier-8-premium-ship-soviet-cruiser-sverdlov/page__hl__%20sverdlov#topmost Most things have already been discussed. It is a pre-WW2 design gun cruiser. Personally i don't have any problem with its inclusion in the game. ...unless they plan to make the ship below the Russian tier X... Edited December 10, 2015 by Sonic_157 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShipComrade Players 131 posts 31 battles Report post #21 Posted December 10, 2015 Hmm this ship launch in 1954. Nice WG its time launch new modern era ship. Absolute terrible balanced game. Yees. I have idea. Take USS Zumwalt to game. Its time to removed torpedos and launch many missiles. Actually, not the first time a 1950's ship was put into game. The Murmansk was finished in 1955. But when you look at where the Russian ship tech was during this era, It's not really anymore advanced than the other Nations. As long as the ship doesn't have missles or a nuclear reactor, still kind of fits Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #22 Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) Actually, not the first time a 1950's ship was put into game. The Murmansk was finished in 1955. But when you look at where the Russian ship tech was during this era, It's not really anymore advanced than the other Nations. As long as the ship doesn't have missles or a nuclear reactor, still kind of fits The "Murmansk" in the game is this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Milwaukee_%28CL-5%29 Edited December 10, 2015 by Admiral_H_Nelson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AWF-] von_Boeg Players 1,207 posts 6,812 battles Report post #23 Posted December 10, 2015 The "Murmansk" in the game is this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Milwaukee_%28CL-5%29 Quite so, I have seen the later Murmansk in Norway, and that is not a Omaha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44smok Players 4,367 posts 16,858 battles Report post #24 Posted December 10, 2015 Are they also going to add the most famous signal in the history of the so called Russian Navy - XGE? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AWF-] von_Boeg Players 1,207 posts 6,812 battles Report post #25 Posted December 10, 2015 Are they also going to add the most famous signal in the history of the so called Russian Navy - XGE? No you did not... Besides, they were not that bad. they beat the British fishing fleet after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
