Murmansk farm

[FlaSher102]

Hi all,

 

Just bought Murmansk because I need credits and a lot of people (phly daily , in forums) said that its best credit farming ship . 

My average profit is 120k credits , without premium . I can easily get more with my Colorado or Mutsuki for example . I think that was a waste to get it for credits , right ??

[Smeggo]

No 

 

[FlaSher102]

Then why its not farming more than my average ships ? Its a premium ship after all .

[Tyrendian89]

how about "because you're very inexperienced with cruisers"? You've got one single Phoenix game as your highest tiered cruiser match - and while your average Murmansk stats are far from bad, you also haven't had an extremely good game with her yet. So play a lot more cruisers to get better with them and your profits will increase accordingly.

[Ferry_25]

hmmm I know only one way to gain more credits with my Colorado: selling it... I have the Murmansk as well and I think it's a hell of a ship! some advice from my experience: don't rush in like a bull but rather stay in the back of the attacking force. Focus on waterrats (DD's): the Murmanks will devour them. The rate of fire is awesome on the vessel. I really do like the sound of the guns blazing. Against BB's it's a beast as well: make sure you have room to manouver: keep tunnelivisioning the BB and swirl with full power like your drunk. Upgrade all the turret rotatingspeed you can get. Just keep your mouse button clicked the whole time. in whatever angle: she will at least fire 4 shots! Making circles at random drives the BB's insane. Check the minimap often though: you don't want to get beached, never of course but especially not in this ship! They can't follow you and you're treating them a free BBQ! This tactic works excellent when you have a good team: you draw its fire and they finisch the BB. Against other cruisers is a different story: sometimes the BB tactic is best, sometime sail her like a DD and sometimes like a BB: angling and take your best AP shot. That's trial and error.

Her weak points: speed of course. Her AA is mediocore at best and a hit to the side = a citadel. But she can take a hell of a beating though. Unless magazined (which no ship can survive I think) I have never ever been taken out in 1 shot. Even survided full hits from a New Mexico a couple of times!

Oh, about the cast/ Xp harvesting... I have no idea. I just love this ship! Have it now for 3 weeks and my captain is already Kapitan 2 Ranka!!

 

[Admiral_noodle]

Shameless plug (not really I'm not looking for subscribers) - this video is my answer.

 

it farms more credits anyway because for its tier show me a better ship

[FlaSher102]

Of course Iam not the best in playing cruisers because i play BB's and i will try to get better at playing cruisers. And didn't blame the ship but its farm . Like i had one match somewhere 60+k damage and then i went with Colorado and made somewhere about that damage to test how much i will get credits and i got more credits with Colorado . 

So eventually if i will get real good with Murmansk , i will be making noticeably more credits than with Colorado ?

[True_Winterfeld]

Yes, you are not bad currently, on the other hand my average damage with the Murmansk is 12 k higher then yours. When I put the +20% income flag on my Murmansk I made around 3-400 k per battle. But lets not forget, they are always bad battles where you die early for nothing. She is a steady income generator and even if she sinks it doesnt cost much.

 

PS And I like the Omaha/Murmansk cruisers so its not work for me to drive them for credits for my higher tiers.

[Pastaiolo]

You need to improve your damage on it i believe. You might also try some ranked battles

 

I bought the Murmansk yesterday, we have similar number of battles.

You have an average of 39k damage per battle, i have around 50k. And i am not good with it really. So it's really just a matter of practice and spamming those HE shells most of the time :3

[FlaSher102]

Ill see how it goes 

[Fi_8_8_8_8]

Actually I think you have a point. Since the recent patch my average income has also dropped immensely with my Murmansk. No idea if they nerfed her credit farming or if it has to do with the cap reward system they introduced.

 

Did really no one else notice a difference in the Murmansk credit farming skills since the patch?

[Unintentional_submarine]

Murmansk games tend to be high focus on damage, simply because she can. As such it is hardly a surprise if her income generation is lower than before the cap reward change.

[Admiral_noodle]

Murmansk games tend to be high focus on damage, simply because she can. As such it is hardly a surprise if her income generation is lower than before the cap reward change.

 

I believe decapping gets XP too? I mean it must. I was decapping like a fiend in my last game - ranked with Fuso. Still lost and I got 2140 base XP. I was most confused!!

 

murmansk can do everything and has range. You can get >200 hits a game, cap and torpedo. If you have a Phoenix then she is like that. On steroids. 

[Spellfire40]

Dont forget as a new Murmask Captain you dont have AFT yet and that will bost your surviability and as such damage done even further. Also especally in T4-5 chosing the right ammo vs the right target can drastical effect your damage done.

[FlaSher102]

Ok thanks for advices 

[Unintentional_submarine]

 

I believe decapping gets XP too? I mean it must. I was decapping like a fiend in my last game - ranked with Fuso. Still lost and I got 2140 base XP. I was most confused!!

 

murmansk can do everything and has range. You can get >200 hits a game, cap and torpedo. If you have a Phoenix then she is like that. On steroids. 

 

It does indeed provide benefits. But the point is that many, if not most, tend to play the Murmansk quite aggressively. They seek out enemies and then pound them until they or the enemy sinks. Under the present rules that will not net a lot of credits, even if you do well.

Murmansk can certainly cap herself, but she sits between two chairs in this case. She isn't as fast and nimble as a destroyer, so she won't get there fast enough. Conversely she is quite vulnerable herself, so she doesn't have the stayingpower to cap under fire. That doesn't mean she can't of course, only that she is not exactly great at it. Naturally I mean for an average player. So, the natural behaviour of an average player is to focus on firing at stuff, which she does really well. But that part isn't as profitable as before.

[Obokan]

Actually I think you have a point. Since the recent patch my average income has also dropped immensely with my Murmansk. No idea if they nerfed her credit farming or if it has to do with the cap reward system they introduced.

 

Did really no one else notice a difference in the Murmansk credit farming skills since the patch?

 

I noticed it as well and i also read a few posts in the german forum from guys who announced the same.

 

I guess i make ~25% - 35% less credits with that ship in games with nearly the same results. Its still a good ship though but it has seen already better times according to "farming credits"

[LilJumpa]

Just one thing to add:

 

Don't compare the +bling+bling+ Screen where all the ribbons and the gross results are shown.

 

The Mumansk has very low ammunition and repair costs compared to regular ships. Compare the net results. Note that camo is not shown in the battle results but will be subtracted in port.

[JocMeister]

I also struggled with the Murmansk initially. Its a very different ship and I hadn´t played cruisers since I started playing. But a LilJumpa says you have such low repair bills even a bad game will give you 100k+. A good one you can earn you 300k. 

 

Once you get used to it it will be the most fun ship you have in port.

 

 

[Niibler]

The Mursmansk now gives less credits simply because HE does less damage now than before. Still a great ship though.

[Kenliero]

Murmansk is a good one. I haven't played it for a while though, because I can make same credits with other ships too..

[JocMeister]

The Mursmansk now gives less credits simply because HE does less damage now than before. Still a great ship though.

 

Switch to AP against other cruisers. Had 12 Cits last night.

[Fi_8_8_8_8]

 

I noticed it as well and i also read a few posts in the german forum from guys who announced the same.

 

I guess i make ~25% - 35% less credits with that ship in games with nearly the same results. Its still a good ship though but it has seen already better times according to "farming credits"

 

Exactly the same here.

I switched to the Atlanta for farming. She could make me 500k with a god match (if I had prem). She benefits from the capping changes as well..and since % dmg counts towards xp and credits she can make you a fortune if there are enough DDs on the enemy team (given the recent DD hype this happens a lot) 

[Admiral_noodle]

 

It does indeed provide benefits. But the point is that many, if not most, tend to play the Murmansk quite aggressively. They seek out enemies and then pound them until they or the enemy sinks. Under the present rules that will not net a lot of credits, even if you do well.

Murmansk can certainly cap herself, but she sits between two chairs in this case. She isn't as fast and nimble as a destroyer, so she won't get there fast enough. Conversely she is quite vulnerable herself, so she doesn't have the stayingpower to cap under fire. That doesn't mean she can't of course, only that she is not exactly great at it. Naturally I mean for an average player. So, the natural behaviour of an average player is to focus on firing at stuff, which she does really well. But that part isn't as profitable as before.

 

Ah I see. That's kinda not how I Murmansk I use her as long range support initially then kill off anything that is daft enough to get too close. Cap where I can and torpedo carriers!

[CrniVrag]

You need to get your captain to a decent level, then you can pretty much play around with enemy ships while they can't hurt you back. 18,7km gun range FTW!

 

EDIT: Also, I am not sure how much are the repair costs and ammo resuply on other ships. Have you compared them to the ones on Murmansk? You might get more credits on the Colorado, but what is the profit when you take the repair into consideration?

 

EDIT nr. 2: I just took the Murmy for a spin, the repair and ammo resupply was around 16k, then I've taken a look at a recent New Mexico repair cost and resupply, it was 30k in one battle and 40k in another. The Colorado has even higher maintenance costs, so there you go...