JDredbull Players 193 posts 460 battles Report post #1 Posted November 21, 2015 Been up all night literally almost 36hours straight playing now, reached Tier five and suddenly its all become very clear what the major problems are with the game. it went from a mixture of epic failures and epic ship battles to being amazed by how the vets have simply done nothing more than systematically work out points on the maps where you can hide behind the island and not be hit from the other side whilst wiping out 3quarters of the other side before having the balls to come out of their safe zone and fight. Now it was kinda kewl to see it happen too me the first time, but what followed over a few battles just made me want so desperately to go back to playing bots on T1, after T5 the vets dont fight what they do is send a destroyed straight at you in a snake path format which is so fast boats such as BBs hardly have a chance, no big deal right, destroyers are made for that. but they don't move in the fashion some people are moving them trust me. The most amazing thing about all this is, that you lose all the quality of the game itself, it turns into a sort of COD deal, you know how the kids play COD they like move a step and then spam grenades over the walls and stuff. its that after T5 !!! but, people say Good Game, after sitting behind a island for twenty minutes LMFAO... Now i could learn all this stuff, its not hard is it, anyone can, and many more will, i have no doubt about it, because it will become the only way to play at this stage. but seriously wheres the fun in it, please somebody explain that... Yes the thread is a little whiney, but there's a point in it if you listen well enough. it will only continue too boil down to this if i continue playing more higher tiers, which side of the map you spawn on will pre determine your results more than your ability to hit the magazine spots on boats during dog fights, and there lies my real issue, i dont want too play like that, i want to have that 1in3 game that results in a sorta cops and robbers chase,not find the fastest possible method of memorizing the maps vulnerabilities and constantly exploiting them. which leads me onto a sorta new question... Q. how many hacks are out for this game, because i believe, i have seen a speed hack, AA hack (you wont believe how many tracers were going up in the air, even when no planes around) and last but not least some of the shots and how often they are made shall we say highly suspect. anyway yea thoughts, is this a good description of the game that lies in front of me now... a childs, kinda COD affair with no more joy but just systematic procedures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COUGH] Gugulugalaga Players 86 posts 11,372 battles Report post #2 Posted November 21, 2015 That is contrary to my experience. If they can hit you, you can hit them, so basically no point in hiding. That is in general, of course you have to consider trajectory. But I've killed not a few ships hiding some place, thinking they're safe and suddenly plunging fire from above.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDredbull Players 193 posts 460 battles Report post #3 Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Well i play some more tomorrow, I only just got the tier5 boat a hour ago or so, but i dont even like it, I know BBs dont turn well, but the New York (i think thats it) dam it dont turn at all, Everything i enjoyed the most is vanishing for me now to be honest. My only option really is bots, but that will just make me quit quicker i think with the slower XP, i dunno wait for tommorow for now, but im not enjoying it now. Not going to be a great and glorious title for me this im afriad Edited November 21, 2015 by JDredbull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rUhavinFun Beta Tester 37 posts 2,057 battles Report post #4 Posted November 22, 2015 Go to bed. Tomorrow it will be all fun again. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDredbull Players 193 posts 460 battles Report post #5 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) hopefully someone knows a proper war ship game as in depth as silent hunter series and wants to tell me about it, coz this aint it... LOL i been playing so long now i just stopped, my head is still rotating with ship movements Edited November 22, 2015 by JDredbull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COUGH] Gugulugalaga Players 86 posts 11,372 battles Report post #6 Posted November 22, 2015 New York isn't so easy. You have to commit, because it's so slow. It wasn't fun for me either. All I can tell you is, don't show your broadside to the enemy. Not only with the New York, but with all ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDredbull Players 193 posts 460 battles Report post #7 Posted November 22, 2015 and broadside is which side again ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COUGH] Gugulugalaga Players 86 posts 11,372 battles Report post #8 Posted November 22, 2015 and broadside is which side again ? Really? (^0^) Both sides. Angle your ship, to make it harder for them to penetrate your ship and get citadel hits. On the other hand, if you see somebody sailing broadside on to you and a 90 degree angle, shoot him at waterlevel. Your damage output seems still a bit low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDredbull Players 193 posts 460 battles Report post #9 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) i dont worry about all that crap man, i aint interested in being a super hero, i just wanna play with boats. dam you dont lose anything, all i care about is more XP and FASTER, to the point the game is all done in less than a day would be nice, got everything then i just log on and play when i feel like a bit of wasted meaningless (i dunno) just pointless click and fire crap that it is... Tried to make a career mode by making you wait a decade for everything, all it does for me is make me cocky i wont be playing next month !! In all honesty i think the player base here wants a smash it type game, rather than a sim type thing, not for me man, i soon be bored with it... christmas MAX, no longer im betting Edited November 22, 2015 by JDredbull 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COUGH] Gugulugalaga Players 86 posts 11,372 battles Report post #10 Posted November 22, 2015 Well, then you don't need any help. Just a hint: More damage = more XP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDredbull Players 193 posts 460 battles Report post #11 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) next boat is 40K XP (i been sat here for 3days to get tier 5) 40 bloody K - get a life ( i feel like a right tosser sat here repeating the same crap ) 40K wow anyway its like 12:26am im knackered after staying up all night so i dont waste any free 24hr premium time, and about 3hrs ago i ranked up and unlocked another 24hr thingy irony lmao (piece of crapgame) if this wasnt free, and i purchased it, dam i would drive the copy back to wargaming office and lob it back at em saying "its not finished mate" Edited November 22, 2015 by JDredbull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,195 battles Report post #12 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) next boat is 40K XP (i been sat here for 3days to get tier 5) 40 bloody K - get a life ( i feel like a right tosser sat here repeating the same crap ) 40K wow anyway its like 12:26am im knackered after staying up all night so i dont waste any free 24hr premium time, and about 3hrs ago i ranked up and unlocked another 24hr thingy irony lmao (piece of crapgame) if this wasnt free, and i purchased it, dam i would drive the copy back to wargaming office and lob it back at em saying "its not finished mate" Yeah, New Mexico is one of the best Battleships per tier. You are going to like that one. I personally don't like New York at all... it is just too slow in everything... You have obviously played so much that you have worked up on it. That is when the games go bad... it is a grind, and you should not rush to tier 10... the most fun is at tiers 4-7 at the moment... You just play difficult ship now... sleep over it Edited November 22, 2015 by Kenliero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #13 Posted November 22, 2015 People who sit somewhere motionless, are sitting ducks, at least to me. If you cannot take care of them, you need to practice more. And I suggest to not play that much at once. Your concentration suffers and you play badly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eternus_Damnatio Players 866 posts 8,891 battles Report post #14 Posted November 22, 2015 i dont worry about all that crap man, i aint interested in being a super hero, i just wanna play with boats. dam you dont lose anything, all i care about is more XP and FASTER, to the point the game is all done in less than a day would be nice, got everything then i just log on and play when i feel like a bit of wasted meaningless (i dunno) just pointless click and fire crap that it is... Tried to make a career mode by making you wait a decade for everything, all it does for me is make me cocky i wont be playing next month !! In all honesty i think the player base here wants a smash it type game, rather than a sim type thing, not for me man, i soon be bored with it... christmas MAX, no longer im betting If you are not bothered about all that why even post on the forum. You want more exp do more damage cap more points etc. You say every game people sit behind islands and shoot. Well firstly it is a valid tactic in the right ship. Secondly you can return fire you know. Thirdly you have 81 games on record hardly a vast amount of experience to draw from. And lastly it is not a tactic I come across too often and I have 2.5k games. This game is not a simulation it is an arcade game pretty obvious to anyone. Why would you want to be done in a day. The point of games is competition with others and having a laugh with friends and clans etc. You talk about cheats when as stated you have next to no experience in game to draw on. Get sick of the amount of people that can't play or shoot well. So then jump to the conclusion that it must be others hacking. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HatsuzukiKaiNi Beta Tester 215 posts 6,656 battles Report post #15 Posted November 22, 2015 You could also just try playing the ships you like, you don't have to grind. Sure it's a goal but it's not the only thing, I still have plenty of ships from the early tiers in my port. Also tier five is probably one of the more action packed tiers to be honest, it's about when everyone usually starts realising their role and has had a bit of practice, sure you get some people sitting at max range sniping but it's not a very effective way to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDredbull Players 193 posts 460 battles Report post #16 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) If you are not bothered about all that why even post on the forum. You want more exp do more damage cap more points etc. You say every game people sit behind islands and shoot. Well firstly it is a valid tactic in the right ship. Secondly you can return fire you know. Thirdly you have 81 games on record hardly a vast amount of experience to draw from. And lastly it is not a tactic I come across too often and I have 2.5k games. This game is not a simulation it is an arcade game pretty obvious to anyone. Why would you want to be done in a day. The point of games is competition with others and having a laugh with friends and clans etc. You talk about cheats when as stated you have next to no experience in game to draw on. Get sick of the amount of people that can't play or shoot well. So then jump to the conclusion that it must be others hacking. I dont really like you to be honest, okay here we go just because i cant leave it alone... If i want to post on the forums i will post on the fcking forums it has nothing too do with you how i choice to conduct myself, if i want to go to the pacman forums and start saying stuff about that game (even though i dont own it) then mother hen i will go do it. its not a valid tactic sitting behind a island, its a boring way to sniper people and it proper sux monkey nuts, its not even interesting it amounts to nothing more than spawn camping in reality and if you like doing it then you should be ashamed and walk around with your head down. And you cant always return fire.... a BB takes a long time too reload, also if you camp the more serve slope side of a mountain the camera angle will allow trajectory, but not from the other side, your shells impact the ground in that second example so stfu... I really dont care about your 2.5K games, and even if you went out your way to check my profile i certainly dont even consider you important enough to waste my fcking time checking see if your lying or not, i simply dont give a crap, I want to be done in a day so that i can play the boat i wish when i wish instead of having too save up for it. You dont need experience to see a cheater, thats something cheaters invented to try and cover themselves. in fact i be honest i play with cheaters and you prettyy much starting to sound like one. google hacks for the game you moronic man, its clever wording trolls like you why i get banned from forums, and i do like some aspects of the game, when its finished and has something more too offer i will like it more. Edited November 22, 2015 by JDredbull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] OldGrandad Supertester 3,404 posts 35,711 battles Report post #17 Posted November 22, 2015 I dont really like you to be honest, okay here we go just because i cant leave it alone... If i want to post on the forums i will post on the fcking forums it has nothing too do with you how i choice to conduct myself, if i want to go to the pacman forums and start saying stuff about that game (even though i dont own it) then mother hen i will go do it. its not a valid tactic sitting behind a island, its a boring way to sniper people and it proper sux monkey nuts, its not even interesting it amounts to nothing more than spawn camping in reality and if you like doing it then you should be ashamed and walk around with your head down. And you cant always return fire.... a BB takes a long time too reload, also if you camp the more serve slope side of a mountain the camera angle will allow trajectory, but not from the other side, your shells impact the ground in that second example so stfu... I really dont care about your 2.5K games, and even if you went out your way to check my profile i certainly dont even consider you important enough to waste my fcking time checking see if your lying or not, i simply dont give a crap, I want to be done in a day so that i can play the boat i wish when i wish instead of having too save up for it. You dont need experience to see a cheater, thats something cheaters invented to try and cover themselves. in fact i be honest i play with cheaters and you prettyy much starting to sound like one. google hacks for the game you moronic man, its clever wording trolls like you why i get banned from forums, and i do like some aspects of the game, when its finished and has something more too offer i will like it more. Yet again you choose to be vile and offensive when people are trying to be helpful and giving you critique. No hacks here, only Mk.1 eyeballs, use them and you will do better than you currently are. The way you describe accurate players is to cast them as cheats and hackers, I am glad you have not played against me today as no doubt you would have cast me as a cheat. Try being a little more pleasant and accept criticism in the way it is meant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #18 Posted November 22, 2015 Yet again you choose to be vile and offensive when people are trying to be helpful and giving you critique. No hacks here, only Mk.1 eyeballs, use them and you will do better than you currently are. The way you describe accurate players is to cast them as cheats and hackers, I am glad you have not played against me today as no doubt you would have cast me as a cheat. Try being a little more pleasant and accept criticism in the way it is meant. You are trying to educate the thick and stubborn Ducat, not the easiest of mixtures to be dealing with. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDredbull Players 193 posts 460 battles Report post #19 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Yet again you choose to be vile and offensive when people are trying to be helpful and giving you critique. No hacks here, only Mk.1 eyeballs, use them and you will do better than you currently are. The way you describe accurate players is to cast them as cheats and hackers, I am glad you have not played against me today as no doubt you would have cast me as a cheat. Try being a little more pleasant and accept criticism in the way it is meant. this is what he said you muppet.... whats helpful here, lets take another look with more than eyeballs If you are not bothered about all that why even post on the forum. (NONE OF YOUR FCKING BUSINESS) You want more exp do more damage cap more points etc. You say every game people sit behind islands and shoot. (YES WORSE ON SOME MAPS) Well firstly it is a valid tactic in the right ship. (ITS BEING A COWARD) Secondly you can return fire you know. (NO crapSERLOCK) Thirdly you have 81 games on record hardly a vast amount of experience to draw from. (NOT EVEN RELATED TO ANYTHING) And lastly it is not a tactic I come across too often and I have 2.5k games. (ARE YOU BRAGGING OR SOMETHING) This game is not a simulation it is an arcade game pretty obvious to anyone. (YOU DON'T SAY, WOW I NEVER WORKED THAT OUT) Why would you want to be done in a day. The point of games is competition with others and having a laugh with friends and clans etc. (BECAUSE THATS ME) You talk about cheats when as stated you have next to no experience in game to draw on. (YOU DONT HAVE TO PLAY IN ORDER TO SEE CHEATS YOU CAN VISIT YOUTUBE) Get sick of the amount of people that can't play or shoot well. So then jump to the conclusion that it must be others hacking. (I DONT) so using eyeballs we can see the man is just a troll, but doesnt swear coz hes scared of moderators, you lot can kiss his backside if you wish, me no chance!! 99.9% of what the man said is not even related or required or has any bearing on anything. If a new player walked into forums and read that now, what would he leave with.... he just couldnt wait to type something, theres no help in that lot of bull maybe this one at best You want more exp do more damage cap more points etc. Edited November 22, 2015 by JDredbull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
praetor_jax Beta Tester 1,266 posts 4,216 battles Report post #20 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) You rush through the game without even caring to catch a little knowledge about how it works. Its an online pvp game - why do you play it? You "just want to play boats". Its an onlinepvp game - why do you play it? You stuggle with higher tiers (or rather mid-tiers) gameplay, dont know the game mechanics and complain about "hacks" - this is the result of not learning how things work. You "just want to play boats", yet wish for a more realistic simulation. Oh boy, this isnt going to work. You ask for more realism in a free-to-play online pvp game. You re not going to get that in WoWS, there has to be balance and "simplistc" gameplay. I have no clue why you even picked up this game. Edited November 22, 2015 by praetor_jax Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDredbull Players 193 posts 460 battles Report post #21 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Of course i want too rush through the game, Everyone does, thats why people end up spending money on these things, to advance in them. I would rather ask why wouldnt anyone wish to advance quicker, but hey... I didnt complain about hacks, i said this... Q. how many hacks are out for this game, because i believe, i have seen a speed hack, AA hack (you wont believe how many tracers were going up in the air, even when no planes around) and last but not least some of the shots and how often they are made shall we say highly suspect. thats a question not a complaint, i play with cheats all the time, i dont mind the fact they do it, its not something i do, but i do have friends that enjoy using them etc. however its nice to know about them but dont worry if you cant answer the question im sure i will find the answer soon enough. thx for trying mind you. I didnt pick up the game, its FREE, who is going to flat out say no if its FREE, it i offer you a brand new car for FREE and you didnt like skoda would you say NO ? you would complain about the fact its a skoda but would be happy to drive it until you got better, well im happy to play this crap until i find better. Edited November 22, 2015 by JDredbull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #22 Posted November 22, 2015 :facepalm: (We could use a facepalm emote for posts like these) This post is pointless. JDredbull clearly doesnt want to learn or improve, and if anything is a troll. Lets just wait for this to get Vukked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JDredbull Players 193 posts 460 battles Report post #23 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) I think im doing quite well actually, you lot just dont like my point of view about it is what i think Edited November 22, 2015 by JDredbull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
praetor_jax Beta Tester 1,266 posts 4,216 battles Report post #24 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Of course i want too rush through the game, Everyone does, thats why people end up spending money on these things, to advance in them. I would rather ask why wouldnt anyone wish to advance quicker, but hey... Well thats one way to approach it, but going to the highest tiers will only increase difficulty as higher tiers allow less mistakes. If a players do not master the basics in earlier tier they re in for a bad time. Also gameplay changes as you ve already found out - there is nothing forcing you to play higher tiers though - playing only the tiers you enjoy is perfectly viable (i am myself in no rush to get higher). I didnt complain about hacks, i said this... Q. how many hacks are out for this game, because i believe, i have seen a speed hack, AA hack (you wont believe how many tracers were going up in the air, even when no planes around) and last but not least some of the shots and how often they are made shall we say highly suspect. Well the whole "hack" issue is can be read up on this forum - it has to do with the game being server sided and not allowing for "classic" hacking. You suspecting some AA hack simply goes by knowing how AA works - the guns dont actually shoot, it is just a bubble around your ship that damages planes. The shooting is just visuals. Shooting over obastacles has to do with how high a firing arc a given ship has and if someone else is spotting the target - again game mechanics. thats a question not a complaint, i play with cheats all the time, i dont mind the fact they do it, its not something i do, but i do have friends that enjoy using them etc. however its nice to know about them but dont worry if you cant answer the question im sure i will find the answer soon enough. thx for trying mind you. I didnt pick up the game, its FREE, who is going to flat out say no if its FREE, it i offer you a brand new car for FREE and you didnt like skoda would you say NO ? There are millions of free games out there, but time is limited. So yes, you ve spend time on this game ;) And no i would not take a Skoda. That being said - there are two kinds of people hiding behind islands yet they may both appear to be "vets" to you: Some dont have a clue what they re supposed to do and some do have a clue and use their ships ability to shoot in a high arc - to shoot someone from behind an obstacle there needs to be someone else to actually spot the target so theres some "passive" teamwork involved. Edited November 22, 2015 by praetor_jax Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #25 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) I didnt complain about hacks, i said this... Q. how many hacks are out for this game, because i believe, i have seen a speed hack, AA hack (you wont believe how many tracers were going up in the air, even when no planes around) and last but not least some of the shots and how often they are made shall we say highly suspect. None of these "hacks" can be implemented into the game, so good on you for spotting non-existent "features", I guess? You can say that aim assist (aim lead indicator) is a hack that can be implemented, but the shots will not look any different, and I doubt you would know what to look for in any case. Why don't those hacks you listed work? Because contrary to other games, the main source of information (except for user interface) is handled server-side, meaning that you would need to hack the server in order to make your ship go faster/pour out more AA-fire. Not only would this be impossible, but it would also affect every other ship of that type. A special mention should be made for AA-guns, as the animation (visually observable) does not in any way, shape or form represent how effective you are at shooting down planes. EDIT; ninja'd :<. Edited November 22, 2015 by Kartoffelmos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites