luggy62 Players 29 posts 11,092 battles Report post #1 Posted November 16, 2015 when will the german ships be made of ruhr steel and not of glass ?? i can not remember germany being so advanced that they could build ships of glass , so why are they in this game ?? is this another wt scared of the truth system of is it just a mistake ?? thanks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,155 battles Report post #2 Posted November 16, 2015 Must be armored glass, otherwise I would not survive battleships hits in my Königsberg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #3 Posted November 16, 2015 Yes, some other cruisers maybe have thicker armor, but german cruisers have more range and really strong AP to compensate for it. Not all ships are the same and I think the more variety and different playstyles we have, the better. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #4 Posted November 16, 2015 German cruisers armor is good against AP but terrible against HE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #5 Posted November 16, 2015 German cruisers armor is good against AP but terrible against HE. This. If you angle just a little, enemy cruisers basically can't citadel you and you still have high-velocity guns with great penetration and DPM. You can wriggle all day and still keep the guns on target. They do well against destroyers too due to the amazing sonar and flat arcs. German cruisers are the best cruiser hunters in the game, but they suck against battleships. When the battle starts, find a place with few battleships and a lot of enemy cruisers and go to town. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Mistery Alpha Tester 658 posts 2,515 battles Report post #6 Posted November 16, 2015 This. If you angle just a little, enemy cruisers basically can't citadel you and you still have high-velocity guns with great penetration and DPM. You can wriggle all day and still keep the guns on target. They do well against destroyers too due to the amazing sonar and flat arcs. German cruisers are the best cruiser hunters in the game, but they suck against battleships. When the battle starts, find a place with few battleships and a lot of enemy cruisers and go to town. suck againts BBs dude you drunking my königsberg has demolite BBs with AP not matter then BB how turn always make damage 5-8k per salvo or bad angle is make 3-4k and that very good for a cruiser. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EsaTuunanen Beta Tester 3,552 posts 8,863 battles Report post #7 Posted November 16, 2015 If you angle just a little, enemy cruisers basically can't citadel you Sloped citadel armor makes that anyway hard on T4 and below without having some bigger caliber gun. Also Nürnberg has second sloped internal armor around citadel besides (outward angled) armor belt. http://gamemodels3d.com/worldofwarships/vehicles/pgsc106 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #8 Posted November 16, 2015 Nürnberg is a little high in the water just like the Hipper was they heve to fix that thats why everyone thinks it has no armor cus the citadel is to over the waterline cus of that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #9 Posted November 16, 2015 suck againts BBs dude you drunking my königsberg has demolite BBs with AP not matter then BB how turn always make damage 5-8k per salvo or bad angle is make 3-4k and that very good for a cruiser. That only works with Kberg against some battleships. It doesn't work with all German cruisers against all targets. Sometimes you have to use HE against BBs and it stinks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andreevson Players 580 posts 1,135 battles Report post #10 Posted November 16, 2015 German cruisers armor is good against AP but terrible against HE. What, the tier 5 and 6 are basically allergic to BB AP rounds. Every hit is a Citadel hit. Or if not, it does at least 6k damage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger_Happy_Dad Beta Tester 6,753 posts 7,907 battles Report post #11 Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) What, the tier 5 and 6 are basically allergic to BB AP rounds. Every hit is a Citadel hit. Or if not, it does at least 6k damage. Also funny to use russian DDs against them - crit the sh*t out of them with HE until they are on fire and their engine is dead (just a few hits needed) and then citadel them to death with AP..... Edited November 16, 2015 by Trigger_Happy_Dad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bug Beta Tester 467 posts 13,407 battles Report post #12 Posted November 16, 2015 Its hard until you get to tier 5. Suddenly you are the meanest and most dangerous cruiser on the map. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger_Happy_Dad Beta Tester 6,753 posts 7,907 battles Report post #13 Posted November 16, 2015 Its hard until you get to tier 5. Suddenly you are the meanest and most dangerous cruiser on the map. Until you run into an enemy Omaha / Murmansk player who knows how to angle and wrecks you. ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Mistery Alpha Tester 658 posts 2,515 battles Report post #14 Posted November 16, 2015 That only works with Kberg against some battleships. It doesn't work with all German cruisers against all targets. Sometimes you have to use HE against BBs and it stinks. no any situation need HE(expect want kill DD short time) and that can i say all cruiser in game only many player cant accept that the cruiser IS NOT BB cant do the same damage becouse of the cruiser guns are half in BB main guns.and 1 advice if you see a BB dont shoot her main armor belt shoot her supertructer that part the AP make big damage even a cruiser guns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #15 Posted November 16, 2015 no any situation need HE(expect want kill DD short time) and that can i say all cruiser in game only many player cant accept that the cruiser IS NOT BB cant do the same damage becouse of the cruiser guns are half in BB main guns.and 1 advice if you see a BB dont shoot her main armor belt shoot her supertructer that part the AP make big damage even a cruiser guns I have twice as much average damage in my Königsberg as you. I think I'll stick to what I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMoon51 Beta Tester 951 posts Report post #16 Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) The worst issue is the module damage if you get through a game without losing your steering or engine its only because you have been detonated before you lost them!!! Edited November 16, 2015 by BlueMoon51 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogDodgeUK Alpha Tester 2,070 posts 1,152 battles Report post #17 Posted November 16, 2015 moved to in-game ships / Cruisers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
praetor_jax Beta Tester 1,266 posts 4,216 battles Report post #18 Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Havent played german cruisers since the Königsberg was available as a trial, but from a battleships perspective german cruisers are among my favourite targets - they seem to take a lot more citadel hits than other cruisers and are less agile. Edited November 16, 2015 by praetor_jax Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Mistery Alpha Tester 658 posts 2,515 battles Report post #19 Posted November 20, 2015 I have twice as much average damage in my Königsberg as you. I think I'll stick to what I think. but only because HE use it, you do not really want to experience how to get out of the AP do good shots. this much for such as you spoil the game interesting I can not replace live ammunition when I see the cruiser armor-piercing bullet does not do damage, but I look to hit and correct as long as I do not see the point where good, oh excuse me but I supposed to sense that you do not really have all HE stupid either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sindrift Players 71 posts 1,328 battles Report post #20 Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) German cruisers made of glass? My little Emden and Coalburger are great little ships compared with the St Louis for instance which has 20knts short range guns compared with German ships turns like a truck on ice. Should I go on? I thought that the Karl was bad until I tried the St Louis, now give me the Karl over this old tub any day of the week. Edited December 3, 2015 by Sindrift Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #21 Posted December 3, 2015 German cruisers made of glass? My little Emden and Coalburger are great little ships compared with the St Louis for instance which has 20knts short range guns compared with German ships turns like a truck on ice. Should I go on? I thought that the Karl was bad until I tried the St Louis, now give me the Karl over this old tub any day of the week. st louis a bad ship right.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #22 Posted December 3, 2015 I am the first one to say that sometimes a player can't seem to "gel" with a ship. (I've posted many times about certain ships myself). However, you can't just claim that a ship is "bad" just because you, personally, don't get on with it. The St. Louis is a good ship - look at the data. EU Server stats, todayFrom http://www.warshipstats.com/analytics/ Tier Ship Win Rate Av. Damage 3 St Louis 54.0 25,812 3 Tenryu 50.5 20,972 3 Kolberg 51.7 19,262 4 Karlsruhe 48.8 16,668 4 Phoenix 49.5 24,168 4 Kuma 51.8 27,790 4 Yubari 51.1 25,060 4 Iwaki Alpha 58.0 35,175 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ROGUE] LeeQuid Players 111 posts 21,702 battles Report post #23 Posted December 4, 2015 Hilarious stats on karlsruhe 16k average damage, thats tier 2 level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEAM_] Alteisen Beta Tester 151 posts 16,189 battles Report post #24 Posted December 8, 2015 Hilarious stats on karlsruhe 16k average damage, thats tier 2 level. Or when ship wn rating is out, the seal clubbers padding ship... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BabyAdmiral Beta Tester 473 posts 3,725 battles Report post #25 Posted December 9, 2015 Until you run into an enemy Omaha / Murmansk player who knows how to angle and wrecks you. ;) Which fortunately is really rare. Thus for the most part you wreck your enemies in a Königsberg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites