[KABAN] IgorK Beta Tester 68 posts 1,501 battles Report post #51 Posted November 16, 2015 Hmm I honestly cant remember your name wich isn't a suprise as im bad with names XD. but it could be true as I have been playing alot today enjoying my new ship. So i still want my faster torpedoes. So its the allrounder its trying to be. I meant Judith_ who posted above not you Of course, i wouldn`t mind having faster torpedoes either but to be honest i can live with current ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOWAR] Fear_Naught3 Beta Tester 46 posts 12,239 battles Report post #52 Posted November 16, 2015 Błyskawica sucks big time mine don't work it says camo 7.7km I put paint on like any other ship but it stays at 7.7km as soon as I can see a plane im spoted by it that's 9 or 10km as soon as I fire guns at max range 12km im spoted not like any other dd, and ships spot me at 8.5 almost 9km so where is the camo ffs, yes I have sunk 2 ships each time I played it, but that just been bad play by them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KABAN] IgorK Beta Tester 68 posts 1,501 battles Report post #53 Posted November 16, 2015 Błyskawica sucks big time mine don't work it says camo 7.7km I put paint on like any other ship but it stays at 7.7km as soon as I can see a plane im spoted by it that's 9 or 10km as soon as I fire guns at max range 12km im spoted not like any other dd, and ships spot me at 8.5 almost 9km so where is the camo ffs, yes I have sunk 2 ships each time I played it, but that just been bad play by them Let me guess: and invisible IJN DD spotting you? Camo in my "Błyskawica" works just as it`s supposed to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,184 battles Report post #54 Posted November 16, 2015 Błyskawica sucks big time mine don't work it says camo 7.7km I put paint on like any other ship but it stays at 7.7km as soon as I can see a plane im spoted by it that's 9 or 10km as soon as I fire guns at max range 12km im spoted not like any other dd, and ships spot me at 8.5 almost 9km so where is the camo ffs, yes I have sunk 2 ships each time I played it, but that just been bad play by them I recommend you go one page back in this thread, and check the video that I made of Blyskawica. It explains everything about what you just asked and wondered. Camo is very well explained there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WIND] Elenortirion Players 1,890 posts 2,549 battles Report post #55 Posted November 17, 2015 btw recently I've took a closer look to the model of Błyskawica and I think I've found part of reason why some of ppl playing her may find out rudder knocked out more often than it should be (while fired upon from faar away) you see that structure just behind front guns? take a closer look at its top... yeah you see well its totally unprotected steering wheel ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lankylad11_lankylad Players 765 posts 8,230 battles Report post #56 Posted November 17, 2015 forgive me for saying this, but with the 9.2km torps that the Mahan can now equip, what is the point of this ship. The Mahan will have better guns, which have a much higher RoF that counteracts there being less of them. The Mahn has more torps in a broad side and the extra quad launcher on the other side, and can stealth torp much more easily than this thing can. Before patch 0.5.1, this ship made sense. now, i am not so sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MATREKUS Players 377 posts 4,311 battles Report post #57 Posted November 17, 2015 forgive me for saying this, but with the 9.2km torps that the Mahan can now equip, what is the point of this ship. The Mahan will have better guns, which have a much higher RoF that counteracts there being less of them. The Mahn has more torps in a broad side and the extra quad launcher on the other side, and can stealth torp much more easily than this thing can. Before patch 0.5.1, this ship made sense. now, i am not so sure I think Blyska has better concealment even without any perk crap on and better range of the guns plus I think more guns counts more than slightly less ROF...And those guns deal a great damage, wouldnt say less than Mahan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KABAN] IgorK Beta Tester 68 posts 1,501 battles Report post #58 Posted November 17, 2015 (...) what is the point of this ship. (...) Before patch 0.5.1, this ship made sense. now, i am not so sure It earns more credits as it`s a premium ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lankylad11_lankylad Players 765 posts 8,230 battles Report post #59 Posted November 17, 2015 point taken about it being a premium ship, but it simply doesn't do anything the Mahan can't do. Its not "slightly less RoF", its 9.2 rounds a minute v 15 rounds a minute so 63 shells every minute v 75 shells a minute, and Mahan wins on turret rotation. The Mahan also has broadly similar range, and its very possible for a US DD player to have or be near AFT when getting in the Mahan anyway. So the Mahan wins on both guns and torps, and is more maneuvrable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,184 battles Report post #60 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) forgive me for saying this, but with the 9.2km torps that the Mahan can now equip, what is the point of this ship. The Mahan will have better guns, which have a much higher RoF that counteracts there being less of them. The Mahn has more torps in a broad side and the extra quad launcher on the other side, and can stealth torp much more easily than this thing can. Before patch 0.5.1, this ship made sense. now, i am not so sure Here I have comprehensive comparison between Kiev, Blyskawica, Sims and also Mahan(and Hatsuharu). The stats favor Blyskawica quite heavily in comparison to Mahan. Looking at the video and the stats introduced there, yes Mahan has better DPM, but Blyskawica sets fires much much faster. Mahan definately does not have better guns. Edited November 17, 2015 by Kenliero 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44smok Players 4,367 posts 16,858 battles Report post #61 Posted November 17, 2015 Not afraid of Mahan as it loses on the most important stat - shell velocity. Błyskawica can outmanoeuvre most Mahan shots while still landing hers. Mahan would need to close distance in order to nullify this disadvantage but it is slower so Błyskawica can dictate engagement terms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PMSL] Mr_Whippy_ Beta Tester 64 posts 29,317 battles Report post #62 Posted November 17, 2015 Outstanding little ship, well pleased with my purchase its so much fun 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foushad Players 1 post 1,259 battles Report post #63 Posted November 24, 2015 About 30 games with it, 78.5% win rate. Coming from US DD's, this thing fits my play style much better. It absolutely shreds any DD I come across, including Mahan's and Kiev's. The previous comment about shell velocity is the reason why. I keep engagements at about 10k and they cannot hit me. All the while I'm hammering them. Because it has more health than similar DD's I also get away with firing from smoke close up, 7-8k. If I get spotted on the way out I can usually avoid the damage and separate, if not I can usually survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samphilconlor Beta Tester 112 posts 3,970 battles Report post #64 Posted November 28, 2015 Love this thing actually enjoy knife fights with other destroyers and actively target them. Only DD's I pay any real attention to are Soviet DD's you outgun everything else massively, target the engines release a spread of torps and back to guns again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MATREKUS Players 377 posts 4,311 battles Report post #65 Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) It absolutely shreds any DD I come across, including Mahan's and Kiev's. Kievs? You must be playing vs really average or even bad Kiev captains....Kiev is better in any aspect except concealment.... Edited November 28, 2015 by Tvrdi1976 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackSamBellamy Alpha Tester 839 posts 21,368 battles Report post #66 Posted December 6, 2015 Anybody knows when this fabulous ship will be for sale again? Unfortunately I was on holidays the week it was sold........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #67 Posted December 20, 2015 I would enjoy this ship way more if the guns weren't so anemic. They do even worse HE damage than the US machinegun-cannons. For obvious reasons AP is unusable as well since you'll barely be able to penetrate CL/CAs and you'll overpenetrate DDs (for roughly 200 dmg). What was okay torps on the Gremy at tier 5 is almost useless at tier 7. Too slow and few for ambush tactics and too short range for anything else. It also sucks as a capper for once again obvious reasons. Easily spotted, big and low maneuverability. If this ship had just one unique good quality I'd be fine with it. But nothing stands out on the positive side. With these stats I'd say it's roughly tier 5 material. It's basically a Gremy with different flavor guns, volume of fire instead of single shot punch, much worse maneuverability and worse concealment. How this ship ended up at tier 7 I can't fathom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MATREKUS Players 377 posts 4,311 battles Report post #68 Posted December 20, 2015 I would enjoy this ship way more if the guns weren't so anemic. They do even worse HE damage than the US machinegun-cannons. For obvious reasons AP is unusable as well since you'll barely be able to penetrate CL/CAs and you'll overpenetrate DDs (for roughly 200 dmg). What was okay torps on the Gremy at tier 5 is almost useless at tier 7. Too slow and few for ambush tactics and too short range for anything else. It also sucks as a capper for once again obvious reasons. Easily spotted, big and low maneuverability. If this ship had just one unique good quality I'd be fine with it. But nothing stands out on the positive side. With these stats I'd say it's roughly tier 5 material. It's basically a Gremy with different flavor guns, volume of fire instead of single shot punch, much worse maneuverability and worse concealment. How this ship ended up at tier 7 I can't fathom. You are talking about Blyska or Kiev?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #69 Posted December 20, 2015 You are talking about Blyska or Kiev?? Błyskawica, the topic of the thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #70 Posted December 20, 2015 Here I have comprehensive comparison between Kiev, Blyskawica, Sims and also Mahan(and Hatsuharu). The stats favor Blyskawica quite heavily in comparison to Mahan. Looking at the video and the stats introduced there, yes Mahan has better DPM, but Blyskawica sets fires much much faster. Mahan definately does not have better guns. Excellent video! Great comparison of Tier 7 DD rivals. I studied this video and the other one dedicated to Blyskawica. It gave me all the info that I needed to help me with my decision. Then I bought the Blyskawica from the shop (the ship/port slot/upgrades offer) and played a couple of games. Great fun, and a fine ship! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creamgravy Players 2,780 posts 17,292 battles Report post #71 Posted December 20, 2015 I just bought one too. Great ship! Both HE and AP are very reliable. Lost the first game But did 75k damage and got almost 300k credits. Now where's that Isle of Wight map? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #72 Posted December 20, 2015 Is it possible somehow to buy this ship without the bundle? 500 SEK is a bit rough just before Christmas. Thinking off buying this ship since all seems to be very pleased with it and in the next patch they seem to totally nerf my favorite ship Kiev, so maybe this would be a nice next favorit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vogel Alpha Tester 2,062 posts 4,171 battles Report post #73 Posted December 20, 2015 they've (finally) added a non-bundled option: https://eu.wargaming.net/shop/wows/specials/2873/ So buy this one instead of the other offer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #74 Posted December 20, 2015 Thanks man ! It kind off sucks that you dont have an option to buy 3 captainskillpoint from the start, not easy playing without detection notice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vogel Alpha Tester 2,062 posts 4,171 battles Report post #75 Posted December 21, 2015 Well, I think you can retrain for silver to get 3 points. Just do it like you would retrain a captain from another ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites