Błyskawica

[Tugnut]

Great DD dont let it pass your fingers if you love DD sailing

 

7 main guns 12k range   2x3 8k torps (forgot there speed and closed the game down but some thing like 56K a little slow imho)

 

39 knots  and the camo looks great (yup i get off on how good a ship looks in paint )

 

IMHO a great prem DD and a lesser bundle price tag at the time of posting this makes it not so hard to swallow.... lets face it £21 for a tier 7 prem ship is not that bad

[aquiles7389]

Yeah, I was surprised to see both the usual WG brainded expensive as hell pack and a more reasonable one.
I got the reasonable price one.

Looks great IMHO, also can not wait for the polish players to loose their tits and spam the chat with "siema" every time they see one 

[Getzamatic]

I think I'll be bagging one.  Not only is she a great and historic ship in her own right, she's likely the closest we'll get to a British Destroyer for at least a year.

[MATREKUS]

nahh I love my Kiev I earned fun playing....

[Tugnut]

I think I'll be bagging one.  Not only is she a great and historic ship in her own right, she's likely the closest we'll get to a British Destroyer for at least a year.

 

was my thinking to

[aquiles7389]

I think I'll be bagging one.  Not only is she a great and historic ship in her own right, she's likely the closest we'll get to a British Destroyer for at least a year.

 

It is the HMS Kur wa indeed.

[Cosseria]

I knew she was coming and didn't get neither the Fujin nor the Nikolai in order to have a few quids to get her. After a very few battles, my first impression is quite positive. She's like a Tribal class with 1 less gun and 1 more torp. Good speed, but sluggish on the rudder due to size. Also the size makes her a very big and easy target and that's a major fault for a DD. Good artillery, 8 kms torps.

Having some experience with both the Hatsuharu and the Mahan I can't perceive a definite superiority of the Bliskawica over them. As I said, she's huge and easy to hit and I'm afraid a Kiev could litterally tear her apart (I haven't met one yet). But she's a fine looking ship and, as a Premium, a fine credit earner.

[Schafmeister]

Actually this ship is worse than the Sims in every aspect except some more hitpointz.

[EsaTuunanen]

Actually this ship is worse than the Sims in every aspect except some more hitpointz.

I see you've got such great success with Sims' rainbow trajectory guns and short range torps...

Or did you just get sinked by Blyskawica?

 

Only thing in which Sims scores meaningfull difference is rudder shift time.

Blyskawica has decently powerfull torps with decent range and at least they go clearly faster than ship unlike Sims' alternate Tier 3 level torps.

And mediocre gun/turret traverse speed can be greatly helped by proper strategy and flat trajectory allows consistent hitting up to full range.

 

 

Though I guess plenty of its buyers are far from skill level needed for mastering that ship.

Some hours ago had three of them in enemy team and I sinked two of them in Gremy.

And in last match (T5-7) team had three of them and they did extremely mediocry at beast.

While I seal clubbed two Devastating Strikes, (daily) Confederate and High Caliber for five kills and 2801XP in Gremy and along with 1790XP Confederate and High Caliber Myoko carried team after southern part of team failed quite totally.

[Viper911]

actually i agree with  Schafmeister the sims just feels a better ship in every way, the additional 1km range, faster firing guns, better turret turn speed and better concealment just make the sims, imo a more well rounded destroyer, yes its torpedo's suck, but there good at herding a ship to turn the way you want them too, it small and quick nature in regards to shift and turret traverse for me at least are far more important than a few additional guns, as a dd id rather not be spotted, than stand out like a sore thumb when firing my main armament on something that is defo designed with gunboat characteristics as they both are.

[Tugnut]

I have both simms and of course this ship to and i like both. And tbh both are very strong in the right hands

[Elenortirion]

 

It is the HMS Kur wa indeed.

 

aren't you a guy I've met in battle today that when told that if shipyard of ships building would be enought to categorise ship as HMS, kongo would also be HMS responded with "HMS Burning Love Desu"?

 

at closest it would be "ORP Kur wa" and then I'd ask you to not call her "bit ch"....

 

[and ORP stands for "Okręt Rzeczypospolitej Polskies" which roughtly translates into "Ship of Republic of Poland"]

 

and about discuss of sims vs Błyskawica - well I've never had or seen sims but when I looked at chart someone made [ chart is over here: https://frm-wows-eu.wgcdn.co/wows_forum_eu/monthly_11_2015/post-524428364-0-25818000-1447259570.jpg ] I'd say that in case of artilery fight they are somewhat comparable - with sims having twice the RoF and much better rotation time of his turrets - which is sided down by the fact that Błyskawica has more barrels, and hp [so as 4 guns of sims fires nearly twice as often as 7 guns of błyskawica, sims also have less hp to deal with which can balanse it out in case of 1v1 scenario] also, as having little weaker artilery and noticeable worse agility Błyskawica have considerable stronger torpedo armament which balance it out I think - I'm not sure if we should compare those two ships though - sims is a primarily gunboat while Błyskawica is multipurpose ship that can act as a gunboat - pretty good ship imo

[Schafmeister]

I see you've got such great success with Sims' rainbow trajectory guns and short range torps...

Or did you just get sinked by Blyskawica?

 

Though I guess plenty of its buyers are far from skill level needed for mastering that ship.

Some hours ago had three of them in enemy team and I sinked two of them in Gremy.

And in last match (T5-7) team had three of them and they did extremely mediocry at beast.

While I seal clubbed two Devastating Strikes, (daily) Confederate and High Caliber for five kills and 2801XP in Gremy and along with 1790XP Confederate and High Caliber Myoko carried team after southern part of team failed quite totally.

 

man youre awesome.

 

Doesn't change a fact, that both are bad ships, being a worse choice for every role you bring them into a battle .... except the Sims is at least easily capable of stealth firing, the Bfsdfsdfasdfsd is not.

[Viper911]

yup agree, i'm a 54%er on sims, not great butt ok, with the Blyska i have won 1 game from 10, yes its guns are ok, its torps are ok,  but that its issue, a dd is a bad choice to have a jack of all trades with, DD's like the sims are designed to be stealth boats, the japs, stealth torper's, and that what makes them great, the fact it is jack of all trades means it dosent actualy excel in anything, which is kinda what a dd needs to do.

Simply put if ya team is playing bad it can not turn a game around and help carry like US and IJN ships. a real problem. 

[Cosseria]

 

With today's x3 (and premium...)

Even if the exp is almost useless as it only goes into Capt training, it sort of made my day.

[Kenliero]

 

With today's x3 (and premium...)

Even if the exp is almost useless as it only goes into Capt training, it sort of made my day.

 

Yeah, then again, captain training is kind of important for THIS ship in particular. This is my favourite ship now ;)

[Viper911]

everyone to there own i guess, but i just find it has to many issues for me, i prefer the sims in almost every way except torps ofc.

[Kurbain]

Since I've recently fallen in love with the Russian DDs I'm definitely interested in acquiring the Blyskawica.

 

Could somebody that already bought it tell me more about its statistics? Fire Rate, HE/AP Damage, Firing Trajectory, Torp Speed etc.?

 

Is it really worth getting the Blyskawica considering the Kiev is also T7 and is the best ship of the Russian DD line?

[Elenortirion]

Doesn't change a fact, that both are bad ships, being a worse choice for every role you bring them into a battle .... except the Sims is at least easily capable of stealth firing, the Bfsdfsdfasdfsd is not.

 

what where you smoking dude?

 

whenever I liek I have easy time of stealth firing with Błyskawica [btw "Bfsdfsdasdfsd" is not even remotely close you just randomly smaszeh keyboard around asdf buttons....] whenever I feel like it - but then I mostly does not care.....

 

Since I've recently fallen in love with the Russian DDs I'm definitely interested in acquiring the Blyskawica.

 

Could somebody that already bought it tell me more about its statistics? Fire Rate, HE/AP Damage, Firing Trajectory, Torp Speed etc.?

 

Is it really worth getting the Blyskawica considering the Kiev is also T7 and is the best ship of the Russian DD line?

 

as for my knowledge Kiev still outguns Błyskawica, if you won't get any answers for that till tomorow send me a PM and I'll get soem screenshots for you

[firing trajectory up to 10km is really good but when you go areound 10-12km shots it gets a littel rainbowish...]

[EsaTuunanen]

except the Sims is at least easily capable of stealth firing, the Bfsdfsdfasdfsd is not.

I thought Sims would be really fun gunship when buying it as pre-order.

But orbital high shell trajectory really puts serious dent into ability to dish out damage from that advertised long range.

Even hitting BBs from max range needs work. And against cruisers it just doesn't really work, unless they're basically AFK.

 

 

How much do you think Sims could outgun Atlanta, Cleveland or Omaha/Murmansk?

Done all of them (Cleve twice) in Gremy because 10s trajectory to 14,2km allows me hitting them consistently from farther than they can hit me.

That's not counting weak spot hit detonated ones. (one Atlanta and two Königsbergs)

 

 

yup agree, i'm a 54%er on sims, not great butt ok, with the Blyska i have won 1 game from 10, yes its guns are ok, its torps are ok,  but that its issue, a dd is a bad choice to have a jack of all trades with, DD's like the sims are designed to be stealth boats, the japs, stealth torper's, and that what makes them great, the fact it is jack of all trades means it dosent actualy excel in anything, which is kinda what a dd needs to do.

Simply put if ya team is playing bad it can not turn a game around and help carry like US and IJN ships. a real problem. 

Consistent carrying needs ability to engage any target with OK good efficiency to cover different MM situations and team's deficiencies/failures in some area against all around competent enemy.

 

Sure torps are devastating.

But only when hitting and skilled BB player can basically avoid dozens of torps, unless you can use island as cover for close range run.

Against maneuvering cruiser it's even harder, so torps can't be trusted to work reliably against skilled enemy team.

Even if you force enemy to maneuver bad team mates might not use those moments when enemies show their side.

Also torpedo effectiveness against DDs isn't great. (though I quite regularly torp DDs in Gremy)

And if you can't fight back with guns any OK good gunship DD player can sink you or keep you running.

 

Again while lacking in "alpha damage" guns can be used to do more consistent and hard to evade long term damage.

But against heavier ships you need the ability to hit from far away, so that you can more easily evade return fire by being smaller and faster target.

And while having rapid firing and fastest turning guns USN DDs have problems in that long range hitting, because of that slow speed very high trajectory.

Which also limits ability to surprise low HP non heavily armored cruisers with citadel hits.

With very high speed (good for kinetic energy) and flat trajectory giving straighter hitting angle I would expect that 120mm Bofors to at least match USN 127mm in side armor penetration.

And while high trajectory would help for penetrating deck armor (always lot weaker than side) with plunging fire also that needs long range accuracy.

 

 

Wouldn't want to try pulling this kind team in Sims:

(one boom-headshot Königsberg in there)

[Kenliero]

I started a new series of Ship reviews and the first one in the series is Blyskawica. There are some useful tips for this ship(Running 86% winrate with it, while making video):

 

[Panocek]

Since I've recently fallen in love with the Russian DDs I'm definitely interested in acquiring the Blyskawica.

 

Could somebody that already bought it tell me more about its statistics? Fire Rate, HE/AP Damage, Firing Trajectory, Torp Speed etc.?

 

Is it really worth getting the Blyskawica considering the Kiev is also T7 and is the best ship of the Russian DD line?

 

So far I had only one encounter against Kiev, which I won, but then I kept distance and kept firing. RoF is decent, with captain perk you get 10.3/min or 5.85s reload, shell flight time is manageable as well, 8s at 12 km. Turret traverse is fine, torps are "useable", but I wouldn't call them good. You just have 8km 57kn 2x3 for some random busy BB.

 

I don't have Kiev, but looking at stats alone I'd say you would trade bit of gun dpm for slightly less situational torpedoes. Błyskawica have quite better camo ratings tho (7.5km, 11.3 for ninja shelling with paint).

[Elenortirion]

 

So far I had only one encounter against Kiev, which I won, but then I kept distance and kept firing. RoF is decent, with captain perk you get 10.3/min or 5.85s reload, shell flight time is manageable as well, 8s at 12 km. Turret traverse is fine, torps are "useable", but I wouldn't call them good. You just have 8km 57kn 2x3 for some random busy BB.

 

I don't have Kiev, but looking at stats alone I'd say you would trade bit of gun dpm for slightly less situational torpedoes. Błyskawica have quite better camo ratings tho (7.5km, 11.3 for ninja shelling with paint).

 

camo bonus also applies to the modifier of firing main guns - its actually 11.1km (after firing primary guns I mean) with said camo only

[although my number is taken from practical tests - I always pay attention to when situation awareness pops up ]

[and the fact of camo/skill/modification bonuses applying to modifiers like that as well I took from the post where some guy eplains how spotting works]

[Ru55e11]

I have played this ship a bit and I just cannot stop laughing when I play it.  I find myself just taking on everything at around 10-12km range and relying on maneuverability and the good health pool to stay alive.  I cannot say that this is a good strategy, but so far it has worked as I have died once in about 10 battles.  The guns have very good accuracy and this has led to a number of magazine detonations on other destroyers.

I don't care what the stats say, I just know that this ship is a lot of fun and looks damn cool in either camo.  The Poles certainly managed to get the coolest camo colours.

[Kenliero]

All the above, and following information is covered in the Ship review video and it is also compared with Kiev. Yes, 11.1km is correct Elenortirion. Detectionrange is 7.7km and it is 7.5km with camouflage, 6.72km with Camo AND Concealment Expert skill.

Shooting your guns will increase detectionrange by +3% of the caliber of your gun, which in 120mm guns is +3.6km, making it 7.5km+3.6=11.1km if using camo.