[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,939 battles Report post #51 Posted November 11, 2015 Is it the policy of WG now to have the supertesters blatantly advertise all their new premium vessels on the forums now? How sad this state of affairs has become and, ironically, what a joke! Whether your motives are sincere or not, it's starting to stink a little. Good luck to you all and may the weak-minded fall hook, line and sinker. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
___Canaris___ Beta Tester 163 posts 1,690 battles Report post #52 Posted November 11, 2015 hey all i can say that i am new in wargaming community, i ve been playing wows since only several months. So i do not really know how things work here. Are there any developers who are actively reading the forum and our feedbacks? As far as i can tell most players in community do not like bundles. Did wargaming ever said anything about that, any links? I used to play battlefield play4free before and developers were just ignoring us. Is wargaming kind of the same? Thn i do not want to be part of this game. It is so obvious that they are losing money by releasing bundles, there are a lot of people like me who want to buy the ship but not the bundles. I do not have that much time this week and paying for premium is just wasting money. And one more thing t7 atlanta is overpriced as well. The Russian servers get all ships available at a stand alone price, it's every other region that gets screwed by bundles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,578 battles Report post #53 Posted November 11, 2015 At 30 euro bundle, it is more than half the price for Fallout 4. And probably there will be no Polish Navy to train captains for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COSTS] Hanszeehock Alpha Tester 3,692 posts 5,959 battles Report post #54 Posted November 11, 2015 Is it the policy of WG now to have the supertesters blatantly advertise all their new premium vessels on the forums now? How sad this state of affairs has become and, ironically, what a joke! Whether your motives are sincere or not, it's starting to stink a little. Good luck to you all and may the weak-minded fall hook, line and sinker. You talking to me ? What is your problem ? I just thought it would be helpful to let other players know the Blyskawica was now available. Perhaps instead of your constant whine posts you could actually write something constructive for a change or just but out 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ascender Beta Tester 468 posts 5,440 battles Report post #55 Posted November 11, 2015 Supertesters are just players with a tie. They do not "advertise" anything as much as another player proclaiming his love for "Ship X" or "Y" would. If he hadn't made this topic you can bet someone else would have. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Bug Players 1,428 posts 7,991 battles Report post #56 Posted November 11, 2015 Is it the policy of WG now to have the supertesters blatantly advertise all their new premium vessels on the forums now? How sad this state of affairs has become and, ironically, what a joke! Whether your motives are sincere or not, it's starting to stink a little. Good luck to you all and may the weak-minded fall hook, line and sinker. An other tin foil post. There is no WG policy. We just played the vessel and share our opinion. Most of us liked the vessel and we are glad we can play her now for real. But I don't think what ever we say, you will believe us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,506 battles Report post #57 Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) You talking to me ? What is your problem ? I just thought it would be helpful to let other players know the Blyskawica was now available. Perhaps instead of your constant whine posts you could actually write something constructive for a change or just but out I for one was thank full!!! I have been waiting for this ship! (would have preferd no bundle). Indeed when i first read your post. I was typing a response i was going to ask you to post the expanded details (i then scrolled to the Right and sore you had already provided them (such a nice chap). People not happy its a bundle (though this bundle is not as bad as some we have had) i can understand but complaining you told us the ship was there !!! Facepalm Edited November 11, 2015 by T0byJug 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Bug Players 1,428 posts 7,991 battles Report post #58 Posted November 11, 2015 How does her Turret traverse time changes with the second Captainskill? I don't have her yet, gonna buy her this evening, so based on her stats and your statement, i'd say she's in line with the Russian DDs. Which leads me to a question: why do you think, she should stay away from her Russian counterparts? Ofcourse it changes with the second Captainskill. I Played here with that Skill. It get the Turret rotation better but still not very good. You can better turn the whole vessel. The tier 7,8 and 9 RU DD are simply better, as they should be. Try it and you will see. Even if you win the canche is very large that you are that damaged that it will be dificult to do mayor damage after that fight. I could be wrong. It is just my opinion. Fortunately, you can avoid the RU-DD's rather easely as they have very bad detection ranges. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ATRA] aquiles7389 Beta Tester 405 posts 12,322 battles Report post #59 Posted November 11, 2015 HMS what .... wait we can actually have another RN ship.... in the near not distant future ???? spill , here or TS HMS C U R V A (change the C for a K and the V for a W). A moderator edited my post, but probably he forgot this is the ENGLISH speaking forum, and kur wa is not an offensive word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,668 battles Report post #60 Posted November 11, 2015 Ofcourse it changes with the second Captainskill. I Played here with that Skill. It get the Turret rotation better but still not very good. You can better turn the whole vessel. The tier 7,8 and 9 RU DD are simply better, as they should be. Try it and you will see. Even if you win the canche is very large that you are that damaged that it will be dificult to do mayor damage after that fight. I could be wrong. It is just my opinion. Fortunately, you can avoid the RU-DD's rather easely as they have very bad detection ranges. Thx, for the info, i'll try that out this evening, though my prefered prey when sailing the DDs are BBs. With the introduction of the Russian DD line, this changed a bit, now are Cruisers on the menu too. ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[111] Roter_Funke Beta Tester 93 posts 24,256 battles Report post #61 Posted November 11, 2015 I want a ship, I want a ship. No Dubloons, no apple, no sausage, I collect SHIPS. So I want a SHIP ! You know. A ship. The ship. Any ship. Just the ship. For what IT costs. Ship. SHIP ! I am a collector in WOWS. So I collect SHIPS. I want to buy a ship. From WG. No flags. Not premium time. No Quality time with Dasha, just the ship. ..and for the love of god can You make it BRITISH please, You know like the most important seafaring nation in history-british ? GREAT british ? Please ? A....ship ? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
___Canaris___ Beta Tester 163 posts 1,690 battles Report post #62 Posted November 11, 2015 if it didn't have the bundle attached I would have picked it up & Imperator too but since they are I'm going to let them sail by, lost 2 sales there WG. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,668 battles Report post #63 Posted November 11, 2015 I want a ship, I want a ship. No Dubloons, no apple, no sausage, I collect SHIPS. So I want a SHIP ! You know. A ship. The ship. Any ship. Just the ship. For what IT costs. Ship. SHIP ! I am a collector in WOWS. So I collect SHIPS. I want to buy a ship. From WG. No flags. Not premium time. No Quality time with Dasha, just the ship. ..and for the love of god can You make it BRITISH please, You know like the most important seafaring nation in history-british ? GREAT british ? Please ? A....ship ? I skimmed over your post and i had this gut feeling...so i tried to read between the lines. After reading it a second time, i'm under the impression that...you want a ship? Not sure, so feel free to correct me on that one. ^^ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[111] Roter_Funke Beta Tester 93 posts 24,256 battles Report post #64 Posted November 11, 2015 Yes,....................JUST the ship..... ...................oh and a british one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HariSeldon WoWs Wiki Team, In AlfaTesters 1,993 posts Report post #65 Posted November 11, 2015 Yes,....................JUST the ship..... ...................oh and a british one. But mate....we have the ship with this awesome bunddle? why you dont want our special bunddle? We hear your opinion commanders!!! WG FTW! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tajj7 Beta Tester 1,210 posts 1,486 battles Report post #66 Posted November 11, 2015 Just to note this tier 7 premium DD completely and 100% shats all over the other tier 7 premium DD. As if the Simms was not useless enough as it is you here have a better gun boat by far with better torpedoes, as opposed to a tier 5 DD gun boat with long range torpedoes that a tier 3 would laugh at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Bug Players 1,428 posts 7,991 battles Report post #67 Posted November 11, 2015 Just to note this tier 7 premium DD completely and 100% shats all over the other tier 7 premium DD. As if the Simms was not useless enough as it is you here have a better gun boat by far with better torpedoes, as opposed to a tier 5 DD gun boat with long range torpedoes that a tier 3 would laugh at. I really don't understand why people should equip the long range torpedoes on the Simms. The Simms plays differently as the Blys. With a Simms you can beat the Blys, but it would not be easy. You got to use your better turn rate, and gun rotation. I don't say it would be easy, but in a one to one fight my money goes to the Simms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatt Players 509 posts Report post #68 Posted November 11, 2015 I want a ship, I want a ship. ..... no Quality time with Dasha ... Nope, I dont agree with you ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IamTroublemaker Beta Tester 2,287 posts 11,047 battles Report post #69 Posted November 11, 2015 Time to play cruisers even more often, because the battles will probably be crawling with these considering how much polish players there are Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIM] scousersuk Players 284 posts 18,366 battles Report post #70 Posted November 11, 2015 THE POINT IS its another stupid bundle stop trying to defend WG they never offer ships because people like you buy these bundles all day long so we all get shafted because of it if people stopped buying them they would have to sell ships only but players are like its a bargain at 30 euro for ONE ship at T7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tajj7 Beta Tester 1,210 posts 1,486 battles Report post #71 Posted November 11, 2015 I really don't understand why people should equip the long range torpedoes on the Simms. The Simms plays differently as the Blys. With a Simms you can beat the Blys, but it would not be easy. You got to use your better turn rate, and gun rotation. I don't say it would be easy, but in a one to one fight my money goes to the Simms I don't as they are completely pointless. But you are essentially left with a tier 5 DD with tier 7 MM. Blys has more guns and a decent enough turret rotation, but crucially it has vastly better shell speed rather than the potatoes the Simms fires. My money all day every day would be on the Blys, rather than THE worst performing ship in the game, the ship that pulls worst damage numbers than tier 3s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Bug Players 1,428 posts 7,991 battles Report post #72 Posted November 11, 2015 I don't as they are completely pointless. But you are essentially left with a tier 5 DD with tier 7 MM. Blys has more guns and a decent enough turret rotation, but crucially it has vastly better shell speed rather than the potatoes the Simms fires. My money all day every day would be on the Blys, rather than THE worst performing ship in the game, the ship that pulls worst damage numbers than tier 3s. The Simms has a much be better reload time for her guns. If you keep moving and force the Blys to rotate her guns, you make a very goog chance. The Sims is certainly not a Tier 5 DD. As all DD's she suffers. And all high tier premiums suffers from low winrates. That will not say that they are bad. I find the Sims not a bad vessel, maybe even better as the Mahan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tajj7 Beta Tester 1,210 posts 1,486 battles Report post #73 Posted November 11, 2015 Yes but still less guns and you are acting like the Blyss has IJN DD rotation speeds, it doesn't. Trouble is unless the battle is literally point blank you won't hit anything because the shell travel speed on the Simms is too slow, hunting DDs is all it has and it's not not very good at that. Against anything else the Blyss is much much better. The Mahan also now has 9.2km range torps and has 5 guns, in pure stats there is very little difference between the SImms on tier 7 and the Nicholas on tier 5. Also as I said it does less damage than most tier 3s and has a sub 45% global WR, a Simms on your team is like having a bot on your team, it's that bad. As far as I can tell the Simms over the Nicholas, 700 more HP, worse surface detectability, same guns, same number of guns, same torpedoes with slower ROF, 2km more range, 1.6 knots extra speed. So is 700 more HP, a little more ROF, 2km more range and 1.6 knots really worth a jump in two tiers/ The Blys is just a way better tier 7 DD. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ALA] Bismarck_chan Players 392 posts 5,321 battles Report post #74 Posted November 11, 2015 ...bundle... Yeah, nope. The 7days premium and gold one is kinda okay-ish, but why can't I just get the ship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KONI] Getzamatic Players 442 posts 5,866 battles Report post #75 Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) Well I bought it with the austere bundle. I can always use the gold and seven days of premium doesn't bother me. I'd say to those that want the ship but dislike bundles - WG are far more likely to pay attention to the minimalist bundle selling better than the expensive one than they are to people complaining on the forum. Witholding your money is a bit like witholding your vote - WG can't see all the sales they didn't make because you can't count non-sales. The cheap bundle massively outselling the expensive one gives them some stats to get their teeth into, and we all know WG doesn't change anything until they've consulted the stats... Edited November 11, 2015 by Getzamatic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites