Blyskawica in the Premium Shop

[Dai2]

hey all i can say that i am new in wargaming community, i ve been playing wows since only several months. So i do not really know how things work here. Are there any developers who are actively reading the forum and our feedbacks? As far as i can tell most players in community do not like bundles. Did wargaming ever said anything about that, any links? I used to play battlefield play4free before and developers were just ignoring us. Is wargaming kind of the same? Thn i do not want to be part of this game. It is so obvious that they are losing money by releasing bundles, there are a lot of people like me who want to buy the ship but not the bundles. I do not have that much time this week and paying for premium is just wasting money.

 

M8, the devs are (mostly ) russian, I have never seen a dev on EU forums, (I said dev not WG staff) But they answer and speak to players on the ru forums.

[HariSeldon]

Broken game....fix? let's make a new bunddle and premium ship!! hell yeah! that's the way!!

 

WG you are so geniuos!!

 

[T0byJug]

First I am defiantly buying this ship I have walked her decks. So the idea of playing her appeals to me . Also stats look good! she should be a fun DD

 

The Bundle would also be ok if there was more content in game for gold!

 

Some stats

There are 21 Prem ships in world of warships

-5 Alpha + Beta reward ships +3 pay in to beta ships that WG promised would not be available  again for at least 1 year.

so 16

 

4 Available in game

1 (+4 that are available in game) Available in shop

6 Available as packages only (Tirpitz/Warspite/Fujin/Mikasa/Imperator and Blyskawica) as limmited time offers

5 available only with Events or buying with hardware (can not be bought from WG for Money/Doubloons)

 

WG why out of 16 (21) Prem ships are there only 5 available for normal purchase?

 

[Hanszeehock]

 

But it cant be used for captain training right?

 

Depends if they release more Polish ships.

[HariSeldon]

To make you feel you have something special.

[Johnny_Phate]

 

Depends if they release more Polish ships.

 

would buy if it was in RN tech tree... or any possibly "full" tech tree

[Jethro_Grey]

 

But it cant be used for captain training right?

 

It can be used to train Captains, but since there are no Polish non-Premium ships yet, you can train only the one that comes with it.

Basically what happened with the Tirpitz - people played a lot of games in her and had a trained Captain when the German Cruiserline arrived.

Same thing with Warspite, folks who bought it will most likely have a well trained Captain when the Royal Navy ships get released.

 

[Tugnut]

 

It can be used to train Captains, but since there are no Polish non-Premium ships yet, you can train only the one that comes with it.

Basically what happened with the Tirpitz - people played a lot of games in her and had a trained Captain when the German Cruiserline arrived.

Same thing with Warspite, folks who bought it will most likely have a well trained Captain when the Royal Navy ships get released.

 

 

Thats if they do have a Polish line in the end! 

[Tyrendian89]

Not having played her, how does she hold up against Kiev and Mahan? Just stat wise she seems to be in an awkward middle ground... puts out less and weaker shells than either (but hopefully at a shallower angle than the USN?), speed is right in the middle as are HP, Torps seem maybe equal to Mahan (less numbers and range but more damage, kind of a tosser depending on situation)

[Tugnut]

Not having played her, how does she hold up against Kiev and Mahan? Just stat wise she seems to be in an awkward middle ground... puts out less and weaker shells than either (but hopefully at a shallower angle than the USN?), speed is right in the middle as are HP, Torps seem maybe equal to Mahan (less numbers and range but more damage, kind of a tosser depending on situation)

 

my first game i found my self vs a Mahann funny anouth.... i won with the 7 guns quite fast firing low angle of fire took a lot of HP fast... but cant say 100% that it would be that easy all the time as for all i know the mahann player could be a poor DD player!

 

its a gun ship 12k range on the guns and even though not the best turn and speed what it does have is more than anouth to play it well.

 

I also saked the captain it came with and got a 3 point cap to start with as that makes a lot of diffrence... all so decked the upgrades out... went for the engine module but first game in 2 vollys lost my steering twice lol

[aquiles7389]

 

my first game i found my self vs a Mahann funny anouth.... i won with the 7 guns quite fast firing low angle of fire took a lot of HP fast... but cant say 100% that it would be that easy all the time as for all i know the mahann player could be a poor DD player!

 

its a gun ship 12k range on the guns and even though not the best turn and speed what it does have is more than anouth to play it well.

 

I also saked the captain it came with and got a 3 point cap to start with as that makes a lot of diffrence... all so decked the upgrades out... went for the engine module but first game in 2 vollys lost my steering twice lol

 

Also got the cheap and reasonable bundle.

After reading your reviews, I can't wait to try the HMS [edited]!!!

[OldGrandad]

First I am defiantly buying this ship I have walked her decks. So the idea of playing her appeals to me . Also stats look good! she should be a fun DD

 

Not having played her, how does she hold up against Kiev and Mahan? Just stat wise she seems to be in an awkward middle ground... puts out less and weaker shells than either (but hopefully at a shallower angle than the USN?), speed is right in the middle as are HP, Torps seem maybe equal to Mahan (less numbers and range but more damage, kind of a tosser depending on situation)

 

I was fortunate to sail her in testing and coming from a cruiser captain (soon to be a gunboat captain!) I loved every battle in her. At the time of testing, she was at tier 6, but obviously set at a tier too low and battle stats reflected that hence her being released at tier 7. Bottom line will be, when it comes up to the Mahan/Sims/Kiev will be the captain. 

 

Looking forward to taking her out again! 

[lethalbizzell]

 

Also got the cheap and reasonable bundle.

After reading your reviews, I can't wait to try the HMS [edited]!!!

 

HMS what .... wait we can actually have another RN ship.... in the near not distant future ???? spill , here or TS

[robertsrevenge]

at least their is a choice wg are starting to hear you , not for me this ship

[warlock07rox]

Typical another bloody useless package well that's another ship Wg can keep

[Armo1000]

This is surely a step in the right direction. Its great that they give you a choice between a cheeper and more expensive one. And £21 is very reasonable.

[lethalbizzell]

i fail to see how 21 pounds for a virtual game DD on tier 7 with added things we dont want,  is reasonable.... This should be a tenner on its own without some crappy bundle. because most of us are studying or have jobs, and so cant waste our whole day playing on this game to use our precious premium time....

[OldGrandad]

HMS what .... wait we can actually have another RN ship.... in the near not distant future ???? spill , here or TS

 

Think he was relating to the fact she is a British built ship (built not far from where I live).

 Construction and design.

 

In 1934, the British shipbuilder J. Samuel White won a competition to design and build large destroyers for the Polish Navy, beating a proposal from fellow British shipbuilder Swan Hunter. (A design by the French shipyard Ateliers et Chantiers de la Loire had been rejected in 1933). An order for two destroyers of the Grom class was placed on 29 March 1935.

At the time of their construction, the Groms were amongst the fastest and most heavily armed destroyers to be built. Błyskawica was 114 metres (374 ft 0 in) long overall and 109 metres (357 ft 7 in) between perpendiculars, with a beam of 11.3 metres (37 ft 1 in) and a draught of 3.1 metres (10 ft 2 in). Displacement was 2,011 long tons (2,043 t) standard and 2,520 long tons (2,560 t) full load. Three 3-drum boilers fed steam to two sets of geared steam turbines which were rated at 54,500 shaft horsepower (40,600 kW), driving two propeller shafts to give a design speed of 39 knots (72 km/h; 45 mph). Main gun armament consisted of seven 120 mm (4.7 in) guns (50 calibre M34/36 guns supplied by Bofors of Sweden) in three twin and one single mounts, with an anti-aircraft armament of two twin Bofors 40 mm guns and eight 13.2 mm machine guns. Six 550 mm torpedo tubes were carried, compatible with the French torpedoes used by the preceding Wicher-class destroyers. Anti-submarine armament consisted of two depth charge chutes with 40 depth charges, while rails were fitted to permit up to 44 mines to be carried. The ship's crew consisted of 180 officers and men.

Błyskawica, the second of the two destroyers, was laid down on 1 October 1935 at J. Samuel White's Cowes, Isle of Wight shipyard, and was launched on 1 October 1936. Sea trials were successful, with the ship exceeding the design speed of 39 knots. Błyskawica was commissioned on 1 October 1937 and decommissioned 1 May 1976.

 

[courtesy of Wikipedia]

 

[Armo1000]

i fail to see how 21 pounds for a virtual game DD on tier 7 with added things we dont want,  is reasonable.... This should be a tenner on its own without some crappy bundle. because most of us are studying or have jobs, and so cant waste our whole day playing on this game to use our precious premium time....

 

It should be but this is WG and compared to other bundles this is a very good price. And it is clearly a step in the right direction.

[Niibler]

Would buy if the ship was sold alone, 30€ is a bit too much for me unfortunately. Seems a fun ship

 

[Armo1000]

 

Think he was relating to the fact she is a British built ship (built not far from where I live).

 

I was wondering about that. I wonder how much she will be like RN DDs and if this will be out first taste of them.

[lethalbizzell]

 

Think he was relating to the fact she is a British built ship (built not far from where I live).

 Construction and design.

 

In 1934, the British shipbuilder J. Samuel White won a competition to design and build large destroyers for the Polish Navy, beating a proposal from fellow British shipbuilder Swan Hunter. (A design by the French shipyard Ateliers et Chantiers de la Loire had been rejected in 1933). An order for two destroyers of the Grom class was placed on 29 March 1935.

At the time of their construction, the Groms were amongst the fastest and most heavily armed destroyers to be built. Błyskawica was 114 metres (374 ft 0 in) long overall and 109 metres (357 ft 7 in) between perpendiculars, with a beam of 11.3 metres (37 ft 1 in) and a draught of 3.1 metres (10 ft 2 in). Displacement was 2,011 long tons (2,043 t) standard and 2,520 long tons (2,560 t) full load. Three 3-drum boilers fed steam to two sets of geared steam turbines which were rated at 54,500 shaft horsepower (40,600 kW), driving two propeller shafts to give a design speed of 39 knots (72 km/h; 45 mph). Main gun armament consisted of seven 120 mm (4.7 in) guns (50 calibre M34/36 guns supplied by Bofors of Sweden) in three twin and one single mounts, with an anti-aircraft armament of two twin Bofors 40 mm guns and eight 13.2 mm machine guns. Six 550 mm torpedo tubes were carried, compatible with the French torpedoes used by the preceding Wicher-class destroyers. Anti-submarine armament consisted of two depth charge chutes with 40 depth charges, while rails were fitted to permit up to 44 mines to be carried. The ship's crew consisted of 180 officers and men.

Błyskawica, the second of the two destroyers, was laid down on 1 October 1935 at J. Samuel White's Cowes, Isle of Wight shipyard, and was launched on 1 October 1936. Sea trials were successful, with the ship exceeding the design speed of 39 knots. Błyskawica was commissioned on 1 October 1937 and decommissioned 1 May 1976.

 

[courtesy of Wikipedia]

 

 

Ahh got you, bugger for a moment i had hope of us having a premium cruiser before christmas... (HMS BELFAST) wishful thinking that is haha

[Blue_Bug]

In my opinion the main advantage of this vessel is her multiple fuctionality. You can play her :

- As a DD Hunter

- As a stealth DD

- As a Gunboat

- As an ambusher

And all of the above within the same batle.

 

Other advantages :

- relative low reload time of torpedoes

- Good guns

- Good speed

 

Disadvantages :

- She suffers a bit from her rudder shift time

- low number of torpedoes

- relatieve long turning time of turrets.

 

Stay away with her from RU- DD's Against the Maham and Benson it will depend on the player. With equel skilled players the Blys will win the batle. If the USN DD has a better skilled player it will be a hard batle.

 

[Cruditatem]

Nice ship, but rudder, rudder, rudder....and rudder....

Rudder shift time does not matter if you have always none...

[Jethro_Grey]

In my opinion the main advantage of this vessel is her multiple fuctionality. You can play her :

- As a DD Hunter

- As a stealth DD

- As a Gunboat

- As an ambusher

And all of the above within the same batle.

 

Other advantages :

- relative low reload time of torpedoes

- Good guns

- Good speed

 

Disadvantages :

- She suffers a bit from her rudder shift time

- low number of torpedoes

- relatieve long turning time of turrets.

 

Stay away with her from RU- DD's Against the Maham and Benson it will depend on the player. With equel skilled players the Blys will win the batle. If the USN DD has a better skilled player it will be a hard batle.

 

 

How does her Turret traverse time changes with the second Captainskill?

 

I don't have her yet, gonna buy her this evening, so based on her stats and your statement, i'd say she's in line with the Russian DDs.

Which leads me to a question: why do you think, she should stay away from her Russian counterparts?