dude1416 Players 356 posts Report post #1 Posted November 10, 2015 Hello Commanders Noticed on special the "Imperator Nikolai I, Tier IV Soviet Battleship" is for sale with 5,250 Doubloons 200 flags. At £21.42 is this BB worth it ?. I have seen a video of someone using this ship but would like some EU players opinions on this. At the price of what you get seems good ,but how does it really perform . Thanks for any advice and information you can give Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] StuntMan0369 Beta Tester 923 posts 4,848 battles Report post #2 Posted November 10, 2015 The ship itself is very capable in tier 4 and 5 MM. It does face tier 6 ships, but even then, it can be used effectively. In comparison to the Wyoming, the normal Tier 4 US BB, it has the same amount of guns, 12 at caliber 305mm, but it does have a favourable sector of fire, i.e, the angle at which you have to put the ship to get all of your guns facing the target (32o for Imperator Nikolai vs 55o for Wymoing). The reload is worse at 36 seconds, as well as having a slower turret turn rate (This can be lowered to a more acceptable level with the appropriate commander skill). In return though, it gets a max of 8600 damage with AP, vs Wyomings 8300. The shell arc is pretty good, the secondaries are very numerous (Makes it better at brawling, but with the amount of torpedoes around (All tier 4 and 5 cruisers have torpedoes), it's not as effective as it could be). You do lose out on AA defense, but at tier 4, nothing really has good AA. The armour is actually really good, as it still maintains the American's strength is main belt armour, but it also has a sloped internal armour plate, that could be very troll with AP shells. I love the ship itself (I wish I had it pre 0.5.1 to see how it would truly perform before all the current issues), but even now, its a very capable tier 4 BB. Now we must address the elephant in the room: the bundle. At over £21 for a tier 4 ship, it is hilariously expensive. The only way to justify buying it, is the need for the doubloons that are packaged with it. If you need those 5k doubloons, then this bundle is worth it. If you don't want/need the doubloons, its harder to justify the price. If you just want the ship and don't mind the price tag, I would wholeheartedly recommend it. I think this is easily my favourite tier 4 ship at the moment (Sorry Isokaze!). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #3 Posted November 10, 2015 The ship itself is very capable in tier 4 and 5 MM. It does face tier 6 ships, but even then, it can be used effectively. In comparison to the Wyoming, the normal Tier 4 US BB, it has the same amount of guns, 12 at caliber 305mm, but it does have a favourable sector of fire, i.e, the angle at which you have to put the ship to get all of your guns facing the target (32o for Imperator Nikolai vs 55o for Wymoing). The reload is worse at 36 seconds, as well as having a slower turret turn rate (This can be lowered to a more acceptable level with the appropriate commander skill). In return though, it gets a max of 8600 damage with AP, vs Wyomings 8300. The shell arc is pretty good, the secondaries are very numerous (Makes it better at brawling, but with the amount of torpedoes around (All tier 4 and 5 cruisers have torpedoes), it's not as effective as it could be). You do lose out on AA defense, but at tier 4, nothing really has good AA. The armour is actually really good, as it still maintains the American's strength is main belt armour, but it also has a sloped internal armour plate, that could be very troll with AP shells. I love the ship itself (I wish I had it pre 0.5.1 to see how it would truly perform before all the current issues), but even now, its a very capable tier 4 BB. Now we must address the elephant in the room: the bundle. At over £21 for a tier 4 ship, it is hilariously expensive. The only way to justify buying it, is the need for the doubloons that are packaged with it. If you need those 5k doubloons, then this bundle is worth it. If you don't want/need the doubloons, its harder to justify the price. If you just want the ship and don't mind the price tag, I would wholeheartedly recommend it. I think this is easily my favourite tier 4 ship at the moment (Sorry Isokaze!). 1. Pound for Pound, if you're asking for the premium which will earn you the most credits, take a Murmansk. 2. Pound for Pound, if you're asking for a premium ship to train a RU captain in, take a Murmansk. 3. Pound for Pound, if you're asking for a stronk premium bb at tier 4, take Impregnator. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KOKOS] MaxxyNL [KOKOS] Beta Tester, Players 3,418 posts 11,878 battles Report post #4 Posted November 10, 2015 If you like to 1 shot Tier 4 + 5 ships (Cruisers), then the Imperator Nikolai I is the Premium Ship for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertsrevenge Players 75 posts 3,435 battles Report post #5 Posted November 11, 2015 I have brought the ship and I would say its a good ship those sexy triple guns just wait till you play the ship its like the tier 5 german cruiser with the sexy triple guns , that's what I am saying just a cool ship , a tad expensive with the package but I needed the gold anyway so really glad I brought the ship . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdpants_666 Players 207 posts 2,515 battles Report post #6 Posted November 11, 2015 I'm really tempted, as I'd like to have another Soviet ship, and I'll be needing some more doubloons soon anyway. On the other hand, while I'm not quite as vocal about it as,some, like many others I don't really approve of WGs bundle policy, so we'll see. Most likely I'll get a Murmansk instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dude1416 Players 356 posts Report post #7 Posted November 12, 2015 The ship itself is very capable in tier 4 and 5 MM. It does face tier 6 ships, but even then, it can be used effectively. In comparison to the Wyoming, the normal Tier 4 US BB, it has the same amount of guns, 12 at caliber 305mm, but it does have a favourable sector of fire, i.e, the angle at which you have to put the ship to get all of your guns facing the target (32o for Imperator Nikolai vs 55o for Wymoing). The reload is worse at 36 seconds, as well as having a slower turret turn rate (This can be lowered to a more acceptable level with the appropriate commander skill). In return though, it gets a max of 8600 damage with AP, vs Wyomings 8300. The shell arc is pretty good, the secondaries are very numerous (Makes it better at brawling, but with the amount of torpedoes around (All tier 4 and 5 cruisers have torpedoes), it's not as effective as it could be). You do lose out on AA defense, but at tier 4, nothing really has good AA. The armour is actually really good, as it still maintains the American's strength is main belt armour, but it also has a sloped internal armour plate, that could be very troll with AP shells. I love the ship itself (I wish I had it pre 0.5.1 to see how it would truly perform before all the current issues), but even now, its a very capable tier 4 BB. Now we must address the elephant in the room: the bundle. At over £21 for a tier 4 ship, it is hilariously expensive. The only way to justify buying it, is the need for the doubloons that are packaged with it. If you need those 5k doubloons, then this bundle is worth it. If you don't want/need the doubloons, its harder to justify the price. If you just want the ship and don't mind the price tag, I would wholeheartedly recommend it. I think this is easily my favourite tier 4 ship at the moment (Sorry Isokaze!). Yes I do need the Doubloons so seems it would be worth it. How much extra credits do you earn with a Premium ship compared to a normal tier four ship ?. Thanks for your reply Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #8 Posted November 12, 2015 Premium account, no flags for xp or credits. Normal game, 150 to 200k, good game 300k exceptional game 400k. Mind you, your milage may vary depending on how good you play the ship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dude1416 Players 356 posts Report post #9 Posted November 12, 2015 Premium account, no flags for xp or credits. Normal game, 150 to 200k, good game 300k exceptional game 400k. Mind you, your milage may vary depending on how good you play the ship So with out a premium account this ship could earn a lot more than a normal tier four ship. Three times more ?. Thanks for replying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] OldGrandad Supertester 3,404 posts 35,711 battles Report post #10 Posted November 12, 2015 So with out a premium account this ship could earn a lot more than a normal tier four ship. Three times more ?. Thanks for replying Sailed well it will earn you a lot of credits and XP as it can deal out a lot of damage, and as you know damage equals XP and credits! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KOKOS] MaxxyNL [KOKOS] Beta Tester, Players 3,418 posts 11,878 battles Report post #11 Posted November 13, 2015 Premium account, no flags for xp or credits. Normal game, 150 to 200k, good game 300k exceptional game 400k. Mind you, your milage may vary depending on how good you play the ship And the more you are getting familiar with the "handling" of the ship, you will get more good/exceptional game than "normal" games. And keep an eye on the ingame chat when you 1-shot an enemy Cruiser when the only thing they achieved is bouncing ammo on your hull (the correct angle is important!)........... Cruiser Captains do not like the Imperator Nikolai i guess. Imperator Nikolai + Equal Speed Charlie London + Zulu + Premium Account = 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] TopDawg [CDD] Beta Tester 117 posts 7,596 battles Report post #12 Posted November 20, 2015 Love this ship, yes its not all gung ho and rapid firing BUT it takes a hellava lot to kill it and woe betide any CA that comes in range they are are dead meat. Love playing it, just wish more players would lend me support when I play it as it can really force its way into enemy territory with support. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #13 Posted November 20, 2015 35s reload means you need CL/CA support against DD's, it's also slow so you can't run away to give yourself more time, and your turret traverse means you should avoid knife fighting to start with anyway. So yeah, while I been playing Imperator a LOT lately, it does have a high frustration level. There will be games where you don't feel you can trust your team to support you and you will have to play quite passive, this sucks especially if the CL/CA's are actually good and won't die but kill the enemy before you can even get into range. I've had two or three games where I did maybe 5k damage because i was late to the party. Avg is ~58k dmg though so plenty of better games to compensate. I've oneshot Omaha's, Furutaka's, Aoba's and a 80% cleveland once, it's a perfect CA hunter at medium to max engagement ranges. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] TopDawg [CDD] Beta Tester 117 posts 7,596 battles Report post #14 Posted November 21, 2015 35s reload means you need CL/CA support against DD's, it's also slow so you can't run away to give yourself more time, and your turret traverse means you should avoid knife fighting to start with anyway. So yeah, while I been playing Imperator a LOT lately, it does have a high frustration level. There will be games where you don't feel you can trust your team to support you and you will have to play quite passive, this sucks especially if the CL/CA's are actually good and won't die but kill the enemy before you can even get into range. I've had two or three games where I did maybe 5k damage because i was late to the party. Avg is ~58k dmg though so plenty of better games to compensate. I've oneshot Omaha's, Furutaka's, Aoba's and a 80% cleveland once, it's a perfect CA hunter at medium to max engagement ranges. agree with all that with support it is very good on its own you eithr need to balls it out or turn tail if possible. Me, I would rather balls it out usually they either run away or die, well about 80% of the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-A] cherry2blost [BAD-A] Beta Tester 2,078 posts 22,274 battles Report post #15 Posted November 25, 2015 If you like to 1 shot Tier 4 + 5 ships (Cruisers), then the Imperator Nikolai I is the Premium Ship for you. It is truly an awesome piece of Kit, flipping awesome ! Did I say it was awesome already? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poster_2015 Players 695 posts Report post #16 Posted November 25, 2015 One thing i can comment on nikolai. Its the pretty much the only one BB i often use more HE shells then AP. The AP shells are somewhat poor on him - they do more dmg but they have worst penentration aside from t3 ships. On other hand HE shells are 2nd best in game (2nd to T10 Montana). 33% chance of fire on 12 guns is pretty amazing, and on other BBs i usually get 2 fires per salvo. They repair, 2nd salvo sets them on fire. That is not to say I dont use AP shells. Cruisers gobble citadels very nicely, the lower penetration doesnt matter here at all. If a BB gets closer and shows its side, of course I will use AP shells. But just as you look at the video post above. That first salvo on Fuso , if it was HE , would do 10k+ dmg and set a few fires instead of just 4k. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dude1416 Players 356 posts Report post #17 Posted November 25, 2015 It is truly an awesome piece of Kit, flipping awesome ! Did I say it was awesome already? Hello Captain cherry2blost. I am enjoying having this ship though don't think I will earn as much credits or XP as most do. I would like to know how you got those sights your using ?. They look lots better than the standard sights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dude1416 Players 356 posts Report post #18 Posted December 24, 2015 Premium account, no flags for xp or credits. Normal game, 150 to 200k, good game 300k exceptional game 400k. Mind you, your milage may vary depending on how good you play the ship Would you show recording of this battle and how you got so much please ? Also was this score done on premium account with extras ?. I can not get close to what you made on this ship so would learn how to by watching your videos that you record. Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #19 Posted December 24, 2015 Was in the post, premium account no extra flags. I didn't take a dmg shot on that one but you can check my profile for my max damage game and that was likely this one. I can upload some of my latest replays but they are still from older patches so it's likely they won't play. I will keep some recent one's from current patch for those interested. Btw I'm not the highest performing Impregnator on EU server but close, so don't expect the same results unless you're equally able. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dude1416 Players 356 posts Report post #20 Posted December 24, 2015 Was in the post, premium account no extra flags. I didn't take a dmg shot on that one but you can check my profile for my max damage game and that was likely this one. I can upload some of my latest replays but they are still from older patches so it's likely they won't play. I will keep some recent one's from current patch for those interested. Btw I'm not the highest performing Impregnator on EU server but close, so don't expect the same results unless you're equally able. Thanks for replying. It would be very helpful to see replay of that battle and sure it would be helpful to others who have this ship. Happy Christmas to you and all other Commanders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Takru Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster, Privateer 3,851 posts 23,908 battles Report post #21 Posted December 27, 2015 Btw I'm not the highest performing Impregnator on EU server but close, so don't expect the same results unless you're equally able. You don't say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #22 Posted December 28, 2015 You don't say? Well it's 4 x 76mm AAA guns... I basically treat her like Arkansas, no AAA period Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #23 Posted December 28, 2015 Was in the post, premium account no extra flags. I didn't take a dmg shot on that one but you can check my profile for my max damage game and that was likely this one. I can upload some of my latest replays but they are still from older patches so it's likely they won't play. I will keep some recent one's from current patch for those interested. Btw I'm not the highest performing Impregnator on EU server but close, so don't expect the same results unless you're equally able. I was not really with my head in the right place to play well lately but today I had some reasonable games with her, you can see some here -> http://www.twitch.tv/marvinthemartian78/v/32295801 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] PeterBrooks_1 Players 93 posts 11,976 battles Report post #24 Posted September 12, 2016 Sales of this ship have now been discontinued, but it does occasionally turn up in battles. If the enemy team have one, get every heavy gun ship to focus fire on it (getting close enough for torps can be difficult). Then when it sinks, detail a party of marines to put on SCUBA gear, dive down and drive a stake through its keel. It is notorious for being OP at its tier. When WG get around to Ru battleships, Gagnut is a close relative. It will be interesting to see what tier they give it, and how well it performs. Peter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #25 Posted September 12, 2016 @ t4 it will meet max t5's. t4 has limited matchmaker +/-1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites